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The type of man to pay money to insult people online all day with impunity.

Nah, that’s your dementia setting in.

That also happened. I reported all of your offenses recently so stop pretending you’re not a troll.

I’m talking about Ajayi vs Drake

Like what’s up with this ****? Bwahaahaha? You called somebody a dolt the other day. How old are you?

I don’t mind debating. I do it all the time without being bothered.

Again, which proves my point that RBs tend to do far better when they’re rushing few times per game. I don’t know how you’re not getting this....

I’ve been repeating the same point over and over and over again. Drake is only doing well because he’s rushed 6,7,9 times per game. Then all of...

I said his YPC has already rebounded, and it has. 29 is closer to 65 than 65 is to 138, which proves my argument that Drake is only averaging more...

Obviously YPC matters but not when the guy rushes 6, 7 or 9 times in game... He just had a 23 carry game against a gassed defense whose offense...

Yeah, well Drake also got -3 on one attempt but I’m not cherry picking. If we look at the full resumé, it’s not even close. One guy has a higher...

What I’m saying is the guy gets a very low amount of rushing attempts. It’s easy to say, “See! He averaged 11 YPC,” when he ran 7 times.

Much worse? I mean if you’re okay with fewer attempts and lower rushing totals in exchange for higher YPC then yeah, it’s better. We never...

When I said a couple I meant literally two. When I said a few I meant three. When I said excellent I meant one. You’re just talking **** and being...

Ajayi had many more rushing attempts than any other RB and was the only threat defenses honed in on. His YPC has already rebounded.

Oh come on. When he was given an opportunity he had a Pro Bowl season. How much is Gase paying you?

I care about the rushing game in particular when it comes to running backs. Drake has had one excellent rushing game. A couple of good ones and a...

Ajayi has accomplished more. Drake has been inconsistent too. The guy has one excellent rushing game against a gassed team with zero offense and...

I wouldn’t. Plenty of great skill players were and are divas. What pisses me off is when players cost the team in penalties.

None of us know what really went on but if I’m a player and I’m sore and injured all the time, I don’t feel any better when the team still sucks...

I think Gase was sending a message. If you look at the playcalling, there’s a pattern there. I don’t even like the guy but I gotta respect that...

I don’t see why we’d keep Parker around and give Ajayi away for scraps. At least Ajayi has proven what he’s capable of.

It’d be a shame if I put a word in with some babalaos in Hialeah about Alabama pulling off the win against Clemson...

I need you guys to pray for me. If JuJu scores 24.2 points or more for me, I will have made the playoffs without David Johnson or Ezekiel Elliott....

Yeah, I guess it is hard to judge how Siemian did in that case. But man, he didn’t help himself. The smartest play he made all day was tossing the...

No. I was there. Ajayi could’ve ran down their throats too. There was some good blocking and open holes.

I was there, boys. I was shocked how well we did with the exception of a couple of turnovers. Special teams was damn good, great field position...

No Ajayi, no run. Tannehill never would’ve had that great stretch without him.

I’m not mad or cynical. I’m just being realistic. This organization is simply screwed with Gase and Tannenbaum.

The Eagles were able to make that trade because of the Shurmur connection, but I get your point. The Seahawks are a good example too. I’ll add...

You aren’t looking at a glass half full. You’re looking at a glass that’s got a drop left in it from the leaky roof.

The message should be that Gase is an idiot.

This. Why did we gift the Eagles Ajayi for a low fourth rounder again?

Yeah, he should’ve held onto Ajayi and had a non-cokehead OL coach to carry him to 10-6 again.

I’m guessing you like evaluating almost anybody by their W/L record but I don’t see Gase ever going 10-6 or better again without a guy like Ajayi....

If it’s accurate and reasonable, yes, you should. Why do you feel the need to go a different path?

What really sucks about Tannehill being injured is that his dead cap money drops dramatically next season, so we really could’ve used this one to...

Hey, a civil discussion between us, very nice. Luck has been inconsistent and injury prone, but I do believe he has the higher ceiling. The same...

I would’ve adapted my offense to be more like the Ground Chuck offense. I would’ve brought in blockers (fullback, tight end, linemen, whoever was...

I have to see which draft picks we end up with and where players are projected to land to know what my strategy would be.

We’ll see how things shake out. Also, idk why you’re making fun of rednecks when I don’t know any and everybody I know is Hispanic and doesn’t...

I didn’t know you meant the question that way. I thought you were asking which power I’d rather have, not Gase.

Yeah, that’s really farfetched. I don’t know of anybody that thought he’d be this good. But plenty of people would’ve wanted to trade Tannehill.

I wouldn’t wish that on any fanbase except the Kaepernick fanbase.

Actually, I’d go with the Browns. I think everybody can agree it’s the Browns.

And we’re the most tortured fans in the country. Good thing I can enjoy the Canes until we have a competent organization.

I’m glad we got rid of him anyway

Final say on 53. If you build a team with a certain philosophy in mind, the playcalling should follow.

We had a running game and stuck to it sometimes.

Okay, let’s play your game. Please tell me at which point of the franchise I’m supposed to have inherited the HC job and take responsibility for...

Like I always say, I would’ve never even hired the guy in the first place. I wanted Vic Fangio. I would’ve never signed Tannehill. Moore isn’t...

Reread the quote there.

They’ve never won a ring in the Super Bowl era... but they might get their first with all of our help.

Play action, read options, dump off passes, chunk yardage, converting third downs, defenses selling out to stop the run, time of possession to...

I think you meant to quote another post

If you’re gonna give Gase credit for firing up Ajayi, surely he could’ve coached him up, but instead he was scapegoated. I’m not buying any of...

I understand you mean the plan is always to win the SB but we all know that’d never happen with Tannehill and Gase, especially now that Ajayi is...

This team would be better with a healthy Tannehill but he wasn’t the biggest factor last year. He’s never been special. His ACL has been torn...

If our team is still this bad without him, why did we practically give him away? I love Ajayi but like I said before, at the very least, it was...

If only somebody had warned us since the very beginning about him.

Thank God we got rid of Ajayi. Right, guys?

There’s a lot bigger fish to fry...

It seems like a lot of the forum is onboard with drafting a QB to replace Tannehill and is starting to turn on Gase. Wow, imagine that.

It’s almost like Ajayi carried us last season and was scapegoated.

Chu know what Dolphins fandom is? Getting ****ed.

Honestly I’d be willing to scrap everything and let a college coach take over. It could end up being a Chip Kelly situation but it could also end...

I really don’t remember. All I know is I don’t want Kaepernick and I do want whoever was instrumental to that 49ers defense lol. I don’t think...

I won’t say who I like at QB until after the college playoffs are over, but I agree with you on Harris. I feel that we drafted on need.

As long as he doesn’t bring in Kaepernick, I don’t see why not. Anybody remember if he had anything to do with that amazing 49ers defense?

I think we’ve got Chip Kelly 2.0 and Ross will hold onto him longer than Philbin because he actually had a winning season. Plus Tannehill’s injury...

I’ve always love running QBs too. Maybe I’m crazy but I think it’s worth experimenting and bringing the college game to the NFL. Part of the...

We’re not New England. We can’t flip backup QBs for a decent return.

Not a WR but a QB

“... yet you’re sucking his dick...” If you’re not banned for that, wow. Because he had 447 attempts with us and 260 of those earned him a Pro...

Wow, great stuff. You’re one of the reasons this site is worth me visiting every once in a while. But, one point of contention. Wouldn’t it be...

I try to avoid this site because I have a stalker but chime in when something interesting happens, like my favorite player leaving or finding out...

And Drake only has 52 attempts over two seasons...

Which stats show Denver is the 25th ranked defense? Edit: I looked it up and I see you’re going by PPG. If you look at total yards per game,...

Yup. Let’s all just focus on Drake’s 7.7 YPC against the 27th ranked rushing defense and keep our heads in the sand

Why are you so obsessed with me?

Not buying it. Seems like a PR piece. It was a bad look to guarantee bringing him back after a fluke play.

Ross never wanted to fire him but his hand was forced after what, 4 games into the next season? Philbin’s career was flatlining and then that...

I believe it, actually. That sack total was an anomaly for them.

Ross literally guaranteed Philbin would be back after that game. The writing was on the wall before then. You’re so petty.

I was happy until I saw how the team celebrated like they won the SB and then I was dumbfounded when I heard the news. Ross has no clue.

I was there too. I was absolutely disgusted. I didn’t renew my season tickets because of that.

I heard Ross on the radio glowing about the win. Philbin was on the way out until that game. Here’s an interview of him confirming he’d be back...

You’re baiting and trolling. It’s pretty obvious. Also, you called shamegame13 (or whatever his username is) an illiterate dolt. It’s okay, I’ll...

Obviously I misremembered. It was against the Vikings. I remembered a purple uniform in my head. Stop baiting. It’s like you live to troll.

How are you not banned? You’re always name calling and insulting people. Teams are supposed to be heavily ground oriented on 3rd and 1 for good...

Because they had nothing else to worry about.

It would be interesting if he got to play the Patriots twice a year with us...

Remember that game against the Ravens where we won on a fluke and Philbin came back for another year then got fired mid season? Yeah, Ross will...

We proved we were one dimensional against a very bad defense. Ajayi proved he could run as a newcomer in a committee against an excellent defense....

Of course, but if teams know your RBs can’t run, there’s almost no difference.

I know RBs catch the ball. I’m just saying we’re one dimensional and we’re not even good at that.

Well then I apologize for lumping you in there, but I’m distinguishing between our offensive output against the Raiders in particular and our...

Yeah, because he was a threat. Go back and watch the tape, they were on him like white on rice. When teams hone in on a single guy like that, it...

Yeah, it’s almost like teams aren’t afraid of our running game, or something. When the 27th ranked rushing defense doesn’t respect your running...

Nah, we should just ride or die with him. You know, win every game he had 13+ touches but one for a season and then scapegoat him when our offense...

How is that not the narrative? Quite a few posters are trying to talk themselves into believing getting rid of Ajayi helped the run game. He’s...

One run? You’re gonna penalize him for a 48 yard TD and only getting 8 carries in a committee as a new player against the 6th ranked defense?...

We’re talking about last year. We had a Pro Bowl RB that was #1 in the league against stacked boxes and in yards after contact. Why be cute on 3rd...

24 points against the 28th ranked defense. The narrative on this site, all of a sudden, is our running game is better without Ajayi. It’s not....

Drake averaged 7.7 YPC, Williams 2 YPC. Your confirmation bias is unbelievable. Giving extra YPC, not realizing Oakland’s rushing defense was...

Being the most balanced and the most pass happy isn’t a good thing. There’s a reason teams are supposed to be extremely ground oriented on 3rd and 1.

So why don’t we just forget about RBs altogether and run all WR sets all the time? If we can’t do better than 80 yards and 0 TDs between two RBs...

Everybody forgets Ajayi was the best in the league against stacked boxes. There’s only so much you can do when you’re the only thing the opposing...

Correction: the Jags were the most pass happy on 3rd and 1 at 59.1% and we were second at 58.8%...

We have no run game. We had 80 yards and 0 rushing TDs between two rushers against the 27th ranked rushing defense. How exactly did getting rid of...

I had a stat in some thread a couple of days ago about how Gase is number one in the league at calling passing plays on 3rd and 1. It’s him.

You guys do realize Ajayi had only three rushing yards less than our two RBs combined, 9.625 YPC, and a rushing TD (as opposed to 0) against a...

Doesn’t it cost money to be a club member?

If you weren’t paying to use this site, I doubt anybody would wanna put up with you.

Diva: a self-important person who is temperamental and difficult to please (typically used of a woman). When Suh stomps or chokes opponents...

So when he stomps on Rodgers or chokes Mallet because he’s frustrated, he’s not being a diva? He clearly can’t handle his emotions and acts out at...

You’re overthinking it. Defensive players study opposing teams’ offenses. Eric Weddle is a 4 time Pro Bowler. It was a compliment.

#4. I believe Ajayi will do better in a committee with Blount against Denver than any of our RBs against the Raiders.

Vic Fangio. Boy would I love to find evidence of that here. I’ll try. Edit: here’s proof

I’ll just state my position and we can agree to disagree. For what we got, I would risk his knees going out completely within a couple of seasons...

How is that an insult? He’s a great defensive player that isn’t on our team. Great defensive players identify weaknesses in offenses and take...

Those are Gase’s talking points to distract from his failure to field a respectable offense. Let’s assume the worst case scenario. Let’s say...

I’ve never gushed over Gase. Never wanted him, still don’t want him.

Please tell me how trading a Pro Bowler for a low 4th rounder is selling high. You’d have to completely ignore what he’s accomplished and only...

That’s not a backhand. That’s giving props to a potential HOFer. Notice how you didn’t emphasize “Yeah, that’s why Eric is who he is.” What is he?...

The operative word is “carried,” as in past tense. I’d rather hold onto him knowing his potential than dump him for a late 4th rounder. Since when...

What’s Suh done for me to label him a diva? You don’t have to go far into the past to find an example. He’s known as the dirtiest player in the...

It’s very simple for me. Gase only went 10-6 because of Ajayi. He didn’t even feed him early on. Now that his team is falling apart and has the...

He keeps hiring OCs tied to QBs like Rodgers and Manning. He kept guys that hurt the team around far too long. The owner makes the hires that...

Gase adapts to his team when it’s obvious he should, but he has a history of being a pass happy QB guy. He is unpredictable most of the time,...

Hey, I hear ya. It might be true that he’s fairweather, but I believe Gase is too. Football teams always have divas and they’re usually among the...

Forgot to mention Ajayi is actually in another league of mine. All the others are in my main league. I’m still in the playoff bracket in both...

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000816875/article/nfls-most-least-balanced-offensive-playcallers This article breaks down playcalling...

If the cancerous tag sticks, I’ll admit it’s true. As for now, I believe Gase saw the name “Arian Foster,” handed him the job, and Ajayi was...

Even if I bought that he’s cancerous (we’ll see if reports of that continue in Philly), he was our best offensive player. And just because Ajayi...

You think that’s bad? I have all of those players plus David Johnson. I just got a notification today that he’s unlikely to come back at all.

Lazor’s system worked fine for a year, and then it didn’t. Some of us are giving Gase the benefit of the doubt because the team went 10-6....

Yes, obviously that trade is unlikely to ever be topped. The analogy wasn’t meant to portray the same exact circumstances. The Eagles can’t cut...

This team doesn’t stand a chance of being competitive until Ross dies or sells the team.

The entire NFL and every football fan is laughing at us or with us.

The jabs at the team are deserved. This franchise is a joke. I’m 25 years old and the Dolphins haven’t won anything worth celebrating in my...

Forgot to insert quotes on mobile...

We drafted him with knee issues and he did well last year. I’d rather take the chance that he deteriorates in the hope that he experiences a...

You’re likely to leverage your influence as a paying customer in an attempt to have him banned.

Just because you pay money to the site doesn’t mean you should issue a threat to another poster. Come on.

In that case he’ll fail the physical and we’ll be spared of this terrible trade.

Ajayi is a better player.

I’m just wondering how many fans will continue to defend Gase and the front office if we end up trading Landry. Basically the arguments for...

Oh boy...

Oh boy, here comes the rant about Brady.

This team has the lowest ranked offense in the league. Lower than the 49ers, Browns, and Colts. We had a cokehead as an OL coach. You really want...

I’m saying wait a few games because the Eagles will be facing some of the highest ranked defenses now. I’m sure he’ll still score at least 1 TD,...

Nah, I’m not sweating trading away a Pro Bowler for a low 4th round pick. Clearly we should side with Gase. It’s not like Ajayi turned the season...

So does it matter or not? Surely we’ll pick up another gem!

Oh good, I feel so much better about giving up Ajayi.

It makes the trade that much worse. Last year Ajayi had the most yards after contact and made the Pro Bowl. We traded him for what’s not far off...

Blount only has a one year contract with the Eagles too. He can really shine and get more touches next year.

Because that fourth rounder will be at the bottom of the fourth round. Isn’t that obvious?

The fact is Gase didn’t give Ajayi many opportunities, the team started off with a terrible record, Foster retired, Ajayi went berserk and carried...

Are you a new fan? How can it get significantly worse?

You forgot to mention that Pro Bowler was traded to the team with the best record in the league for that fourth round pick.

Wait until he plays a few games for the Eagles.

You just answered your own question. Gase’s issue is teams know what he is doing. He’s inept.

I already knew that. Jamaal Charles is 30 years old and tore his ACL two seasons in a row. AFAIK, Ajayi last tore his ACL in 2011 and he’s only...

You’re so level-headed. It’s not like we gave 2016’s best yards-after-contact RB to the team with the best record in the NFL for a fourth round pick.

Idc what the reasoning was. He didn’t give the guy touches for the first few games. Ajayi forced his hand and carried them on that winning streak....

And who brought in that cokehead? Who benefitted from Ajayi carrying him last year despite barley giving him touches at first? Who benefitted from...

Oh boy did I get hammered for saying Gase was overrated. He went with Foster over Ajayi at first, then barely gave him touches, then Ajayi went...

I think Cutler gives us as good a shot as Tannehill would've. I think it's finally time to move on from Tannehill because of the dead money...

Yeah, it's not like I've said anything in this exact thread. Kiko Alonso didn't say or do anything either. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I lost a good friend to a heroin overdose. He had been in a motorcycle accident that left him in a coma and on morphine for a while. Of course, he...

If a combination of perennial backup Matt Moore and 34 y/o comeback kid Jay Cutler even closely matches what Tannehill did under Gase, that tells...

Nobody is saying it's not allowed. Fans reserve the right to voice their displeasure because we support the NFL. It is a business, after all, and...

I never said that and you're dishonest for implying that. I'm saying nobody defended Vick or Rice like so many are defending Kaepernick. Many of...

Stop making a false equivalency, it's dishonest. The major difference is nobody defended those guys. You didn't have NFL players, fans and the...

I've been one of Moore's biggest fans on this board, but I remember when a few posters made the point that he's injury prone. I don't agree with...

Look at Cutler's season under Gase and compare it to Tannehill's. Where do you see the drop off? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You don't have to tell me, my family lived it. I'm just saying there's a lot of non Cuban Dolphin fans that don't care. I'm just saying the...

As a Cuban in and from Miami, I wasn't so sure. There's a lot of Haitian and non-Cuban Hispanic fans that simply don't care. There's also a lot of...

Not sure what Roy was advocating but essentially drafting and replacing are the same. I've seen some post they think we should draft a QB every...

Not true. I didn't even want Tannehill in 2012 or for him to get an extension. I've stated I wanted AJ McCarron or Connor Cook to back up Moore...

I don't think it'll happen, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Warriors make a comeback and win this game. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I don't think the sample size is anywhere near the same because teams would rather luck into a single position than build a team. Plus, we'd...

I don't think there's ever been a basketball team as good as this Warriors team. The Cavs had one of the most efficient quarters of basketball...

Basically you need to rely on your team instead of mostly your QB. I only went back to the year 2000. There's more examples of SB winning teams...

Out of curiosity, I decided to go with 3-7+UFA and that number jumps up to 12. I'd be curious to see what the "bust rate" and "start rate" is...

No, I get that, and I'm not saying we should draft one at rounds 4-7. I believe in drafting BPA. I just believe too many teams reach on QBs and...

How many teams actually end up starting QBs drafted in rounds 4-7? Not that I believe in targeting certain positions in certain rounds, I'm just...

I'm not convinced it's been tried enough to compare to reaching for great QBs. So many teams draft QBs high even when it's not warranted. Sent...

Or a strategy that's rarely been tried. I don't see anybody trying it today except maybe the current Browns front office. They haven't reached for...

No, I completely agree, I'm just saying what they did wasn't entirely unprecedented in the sense that there was a super team of All Stars created...

Yeah, good point about Curry. His resurgence has to be unprecedented. I'm just glad the Heat have a lottery pick and cap space to sign...

Brady was a game manager because he didn't have to be a superstar to win with those teams. Then he became one and continued to win rings. You...

Sure, but you have to get a good return on investment. Those QBs that won rings did a lot of heavy lifting. How many can we point to that are like...

As far back as I can remember, the Celtics are to blame for starting the trend of creating a "super team" during free agency. So while we can...

Let's not pretend all franchise quarterback QBs are equal. There's a big difference between those QBs listed and Tannehill, Dalton, Bradford,...

You're only posting the things you can bash him for and attribute his early success solely to defenses, Vinatieri, Belichick and cheating. You...

The funny thing is if you look back to 2000 (and beyond, actually), the SB Champion QBs are either elite or more like Moore. So I believe it helps...

Keep this post in mind when people say you don't give Brady credit and make excuses for Tannehill. And I get accused of being a hater. Sent...

It's fine, don't worry about it. Let's just agree to disagree. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

There you go taking what I said out of context again. I said if you want to pretend I think Marino isn't great, go ahead. You only brought him up...

I completely agree. So many QBs are decent but not $15M per year better than Moore. Even Bradford and Dalton have had nearly 100 or 100+ passer...

I'm not sure I'm following but I believe you're asking if I'd rather spend a 1st on Dalton or stick with Moore. I'd stick with Moore and would've...

Hey, I'm all for taking a flyer on him at the right price. I'm just basing my assumption off his personal history. Sent from my iPhone using...

All anecdotal evidence and attacking the messenger instead of the message. The numbers don't lie. Moore and Tannehill as Dolphins have very...

I can't imagine Revis being a good deal for us. He's always moved around for money. We're not paying Revis money for a nickelback. Sent from my...

What I'm saying is Tannehill's money would've been better spent on other players, even if we didn't draft Kuechly, because he's not that much...

I've said multiple times I would've drafted McCarron or Cook aside from Kuechly. Kuechly's contract: 5 yrs, $61.8M ($12.36M avg). Tannehill's...

Like I've said multiple times, the front office could've signed Clay and Vernon before their costs skyrocketed. Smith was a free agent again...

And a tremendous defense. Even then he has to make the Pro Bowl 6 times, become MVP, lead in passing TDs, win two Super Bowls and make the HOF....

So? The Dolphins aren't known for having great QBs except for Marino. I'd take Griese over Tannehill any day. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

So you're saying Tannehill is so much better than Moore that he's also worth passing over Kuechly and some combination of Miller, Clay, Vernon,...

"And again, even if it were, I don't think it supports your argument, really, because Tannehill is better by a decent margin." What are you...

Jesus Christ. I'm not saying Moore is better. I'm saying Tannehill's not so much better that we should've reached for him over Kuechly and not...

It's enough of a sample size. We're not talking about Jimmy Garoppolo here. Moore has been around for 9 seasons. At this point we know what type...

Well yeah, it's not unreasonable to say Tannehill won't be MVP, offensive player of the year and nearly win a SB. Most QBs never do that. Sent...

So now CAREER ratings aren't enough of a sample apparently. Nobody takes that away from Warner because he won it all. I wouldn't criticize...

No but he's always been better and you can't convince me Tannehill would be able to do the same. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Like I said, he had a ton of help but he was number 1 and went to the SB, won MVP and offensive player of the year. Tannehill MIGHT break top 10...

Matt Ryan's first 5 seasons: 90.18 passer rating. Matt Ryan's career: 93.6 passer rating. Tannehill's first 5/career: 86.5 passer rating. Moore as...

You completely ignored their career ratings (Moore and Tannehill aren't far off). Ryan had a lot of help, but he was #1. Tannehill MIGHT break the...

Of course ... Their career ratings are barely any different, neither are Moore's games with us. But Tannehill is worth so much more dollar wise...

I don't think Moneyball is incompatible in this case. It's not so much that other QBs are undervalued, but that many QBs are overvalued and the...

You can take it that way. If somebody gives me a good argument about how I'm wrong then I'll accept that. I don't see how Tannehill or any other...

So you're saying all of those guys contracts combined wouldn't have interfered with Tannehill's contract and put us above the cap? That's what...

How many times do I have to say we could've retained and/or picked up any combination of multiple players and not just Miller? Sent from my...

I've heard all the comparisons. He's not Wilson, Luck or Ryan. Big Ben has been good with different weapons for a while. Don't even make that...

The math doesn't add up. Why not Ajayi and Miller? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

If you don't think we should've retained Vernon, Smith, Clay and Miller instead (whatever we could've afforded), just say so, but don't make it...

I'm not even talking about now. I'm talking about all the moves we could've made without drafting him and assessing his value so far. I do think,...

Let's agree to disagree on which route makes more sense. I'm not oversimplifying anything. Tannehill has always been a slightly above average QB...

So tell me where the money comes from to retain Vernon/Smith, Clay/Miller with Tannehill's contract on the books because I'm not giving up Suh....

It's both, actually. Believe me, you don't need to tell me about the benefits of running. I'd run the Ground Chuck offense if I could. But even...

I'm not talking about just one player. I've already stated multiple times in different threads what we could've had instead of drafting and paying...

Well you could argue we would've been strapped for cash because of Wallace, Tannehill or Suh. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

We'll see. I also believe he'll be top 10 if Ajayi and Landry can produce anywhere near their recent production. But a lot of QBs can do well with...

Tannenbaum is the one who extended Tannehill, of course he had to undervalue Miller. What jump in conclusion am I making? I simply wanted the...

What's your prediction? Tannehill will continue to have top 6 stats? Because you asked why wouldn't he continue, or something like that. What is...

Yeah but GMs have to plan in advance. Just because Tannehill's contract didn't include big money until last season doesn't mean it wouldn't have...

Notice how you didn't include Ajayi or Wake lol. Also, scratch off Jones and Suh. I'm a big fan of Kiko but I've gotta give Landry the nod there....

Of course it does, but that's what this thread is about. I didn't make this thread to compare QB salaries. I made this thread for people to...

What about Charles Clay? We probably could've extended Vernon before his value spiked out of nowhere. Starks? Miller? We could've picked up Sean...

I couldn't tell. It's hard to sense sarcasm without hearing the tone. Like I said, I don't care, I just thought you wanted a thread of your own...

My thread is already doing that. Not that I care, I only made it to not derail another one, but this is repetitive. Sent from my iPhone using...

Come on. This thread has been relatively tame. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I'm not making an apples to apples comparison. I'm not saying swap Tannehill for Moore straight up. I'm saying before Tannehill ever got his...

First of all, I wanted Kuechly, but if he was worth that contract to other teams, surely we could've gotten close to the value of our original...

Think about all the positions we had turnover in because of the contract we gave to Tannehill. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The thing is you can't expect ideal circumstances every game. I'd love for that to be the norm, but we'll see. If Ajayi keeps getting touches and...

Yes, cbrad pointed out what you meant. Are you predicting Tannehill will continue that trend next season? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I'm talking about a Moneyball approach. Making our money go further. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Didn't Moore have the more run down team? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

We could've kept Moore. Not sure if Glennon or Schaub were available. I wanted to draft McCarron and Cook since then. There were options that were...

Hey, I hope he can do that next season and I'm proven wrong, but I don't see that happening. We'll see. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

How is the team mediocre? They did well with two different QBs. We've had our best roster in a while. Wake, Ajayi, Jones, Suh, Landry, Pouncey,...

I'm talking about when Tannehill was due his contract. Pretty sure our money would've went further. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Which stat are you using? He's ranked 12th in passer rating and 24th in total QBR. Any stats guys wanna weigh in on this? Sent from my iPhone...

The thing is I don't think they should've signed him at all. Just now we've finally had a winning season and you can barely give the guy credit....

I'm not even talking about now. I advocated for this before Tannehill was due his contract. If it wasn't for that contract, we could've gotten a...

That's the problem with Tannehill's pay. He's not even close to a top level QB and his pay is close. It's not his fault the market is in a bubble,...

Yes, you made a lot of great points, but you should take a look at cbrad's post on how to tell if QBs are under or overvalued in general. I truly...

I think that upward trend was mostly due to the NFL favoring offense and the passing game to increase ratings. Of course, because there's a salary...

Basically I'm wondering about a Moneyball approach to evaluating the value of Tannehill. I'm not worried about how his contract compares to other...

What does this have to do with the thread? You're not proving or disproving any previously mentioned points. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Like I said in the original post, I meant team-wise, not QB-wise, because that market is in a bubble. I may sound crazy for saying this, but I...

I was worried you'd say that. There are too many factors, so we might as well let this thread die. I guess the best we can do is sit back and see...

This thread serves no purpose other than to try to settle which route would've been the best route. Mental masturbation, if you will, to pass the...

Yeah, we're different types of fans. I try not to feel too invested where my day is ruined when we lose. I try not to rage over off-season moves I...

Well, I took the bait. I'm done with talking Tannehill. Somebody make another thread if you want to talk about it so badly. Edit: made another...

I was born in 1992. I don't see how we got a great return on investment. I wanted Kuechly, but when we came at the crossroads where Tannehill was...

I'm not defending anything. I'm saying there's no point putting any stock into these rankings or debating where we fit. If you're not a top team,...

Let me make this very simple so I don't have the usual suspects pouncing all over everything I say. Right before we signed Tannehill to his...

Then you'll be a hypocrite if you do. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Okay, just don't complain later that every thread becomes a Tannehill thread. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Any argument can be made but I don't see how one can make a decent argument for that claim. Honestly the only way I see it is if Parker matches...

That's it. He's not addressing the initial point just like you aren't. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I didn't make the rankings and don't care about them. My only point is respect is given and not earned. We haven't earned it, but we might earn...

Nah. There's so many arguments about Tannehill because posters don't agree on his value or where he stands in rankings. I don't think any...

Danmarino isn't addressing the initial point made by KeyFin. He's turning it into another Tannehill thread. Yes, Garoppolo played like a...

I've never said Moore is superior outright. I've said he's a better value and I'd rather have signed him for a longer contract a while ago and...

Here we go... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Like I said, if you're supporting that move, you have to understand that respect is earned and not given. Do you honestly believe this franchise...

Isn't there a thread about Gase making players earn the logos on their helmets? Don't most posters in that thread like the move? If you like...

I'm not complaining, I'm being accurate. You're starting off with a false premise. If you're assuming which player would give us the best chance...

Winning the division and being successful doesn't hinge on one player. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The top 100 is based on players' votes so it's influenced by who individual players face that season and/or who comes to mind. IMHO, Ajayi is...

Insurgency. I've always been a Counterstrike player but with all the cheating and Valve's willingness to turn a blind eye for skin sales, I've...

I wanted to respond to DJ's thread but it got locked. I only want to say one thing without things getting nasty. I don't think anybody can deny...

When did I ever say we shouldn't have a commitment to the running game or improve the OL? That's a scarecrow argument and you're trying to...

Yeah, that goes for any QB, doesn't it? Unless you stats guys have some mind blowing stuff for me [emoji38] You guys don't even know. I'd run the...

Thank God. A RB like Ajayi can carry the offense and take a load off the defense. If I ever buy an offensive player's jersey, it'll be Ajayi's...

I know I'm gonna catch flak for this, but I think Gase was wise to keep passing attempts so low. This team will go as far as Ajayi and the defense...

You're bringing up an interesting point but the NFL average is insignificant. What's the average amongst teams with very good RBs like Ajayi?...

Wasn't that the game where the receivers had a ton of YAC? Can you really give him credit for that? There's some other games where he was pretty...

Unfortunately so much revolves around the QB since football has only gotten more pass happy. Almost every thread inevitably becomes about him....

Yeah, let's agree to disagree. I don't think Tannehill ever borders on legendary. I think he borders on being top 10 sometimes but usually closer...

Good stuff. I disagree that you'd have to pay Moore starting QB money if you keep him any longer. He won't get that money anywhere unless...

What do you mean by proper adjustments? I don't know about you but 0.675 more wins per season isn't worth the difference in their salaries. If...

Moore has a higher rating as a Dolphin than Tannehill so what does that say about Tannehill and all these brilliant GMs that get fired all the...

He outperformed Tannehill this season in the games he played. I'm pretty sure his passer rating is close to Tannehill's as a Dolphin or even...

How does that compare to Tannehill? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

No, it means if you kept playing Moore, his most recent performances might not be a departure from what is normal. Sent from my iPhone using...

You can slice and dice it anyway you want to, but the stats show that if you give him opportunities, he'll do as well as Tannehill or even better....

Everybody knows quarterbacks are dependent on their teams and vice versa. I'm getting at the body of work over their careers that indicate Moore's...

That's not an argument. Moore had a better passer rating. It might not be an aberration considering him and Tannehill's career ratings aren't far...

I agreed with everything up to the point about how we have the talent to win the Super Bowl. Our defense as a whole and our offensive line would...

No, it hasn't. When Wake had at least half a sack per game last season, we won every time. That's a win correlation of 100%. So if the GM felt...

First of all, they're not all the same positions, just the same group, so you're being disingenuous. DE isn't DT. Harris does not play the same...

We'll see how things shake out. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Let's agree to disagree. I don't see how you can argue the players we landed are more talented than the ones I mentioned. It seems to me that he...

No GM would ever admit he didn't pick BPA. It seems to me he leaned towards need. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I disagree. Foster, Obi, Nazair for rounds 1-3. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The players I wanted are the players I think were BPA at our draft spots. Make an argument for our picks being better players than Foster, Obi and...

Let's agree to disagree. Obviously you don't select a great kicker in the first round over a very talented QB but I don't agree with reaching...

That's another thing I'm factoring in. Aside from the easy wins at the beginning, the schedule gets tougher, guys get banged up and injured and I...

I think everybody believes in Parker's big playmaking ability. I also think everybody believes he's injury prone. We just have to wait and see...

The single biggest mistake was the draft. I really think we went after need and not BPA. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Don't think he makes a huge difference on his own. I feel that way for all the reasons I mentioned elsewhere in this thread. Sent from my...

Foster, Obi, Nazair Jones. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Well, make a prediction, do you see a playoff win? [emoji102] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I don't think we are a much improved team on paper, honestly. I didn't like the draft at all. Free agency, meh. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I just don't trust the LBs and I don't see any major run stoppers on our line to assist Suh. I'm afraid Parker is injury prone so we'll rely on...

Yeah, I see us starting off strong and going into a slump later on. I see us going anywhere from 6-10 to 9-7 depending on circumstances but if the...

I don't recall my prediction but it definitely wasn't 10-6. I hope you're right but I really do believe we need to lean on Ajayi and hope the LB...

Wow, that's ballsy. I hope you're right but I just can't see being undefeated at home. I can see 11-5 if Ajayi is leaned on like the workhorse he...

I wouldn't say way too early considering the draft is over. It's still early and of course circumstances change throughout the season but it's...

Dude, whatever. Just cut it out. Don't tell others to root for another team when you don't know how much of a fan they are or what they've been...

Who cares? I haven't been alive for anything significant. Maybe you saw the 72,73 Dolphins and/or Marino but I haven't. Yet when I complain I'm...

Then say that but a lot of you guys always question other fans. There isn't a contest of who's the biggest homer. Sent from my iPhone using...

This post is disgusting. We better not catch you ever criticizing the front office. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Exactly, he was BPA, but teams possibly overreacted. Reuben Foster is a better player, hands down. I already stated IF his injuries aren't...

Which makes you wonder what the hell the organization was thinking making him gain weight and become a full time DE. Most of his highlights were...

Neither do I but unless it's a chronic injury, we should've drafted him because I don't think we're winning the SB this year anyway with Harris or...

This reminds me of Tyrann Mathieu all over again. I remember talking out loud to myself asking why so many times. Sent from my iPhone using...

This pick was a mistake. We should've taken Foster, who I believe was BPA and fit a need. Kiko makes more sense as a weakside LB. Doesn't Harris...

No way it'd take just Parker to land Sherman. Of course Sherman benefits from his surrounding cast in Seattle but he's obviously worth it. That...

Very mature. You didn't address any of the points I made. Go argue with Fin D too. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I'm not going to continue when you're only arguing with me when others agree he's overrated. I know how it is. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You mean the Bills teams that lost every single time? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You claimed he has a good pedigree. I'm saying he doesn't and talks a lot of crap. If he didn't have Manning fall in his lap, I don't think he...

I'm not following your logic. I can't assess Polian because the Dolphins haven't had a GM as good as him (I don't agree with that)? How does that...

I don't understand what you're saying. Do you want me to compare him to GMs we've had? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Wow, we actually agree... except I like Foster if we can get him. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

He sure talks a lot of crap, that's for sure. He was lucky Manning fell in his lap, first of all. His team went 2-14 without the guy. Sure, he...

No, it's not a waste, but I'm not convinced any guard will be BPA at 22. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Gee, I wonder who brought that up. It couldn't be the same person going on and on about the "turn it on" phrase... Sent from my iPhone using...

Here's what you would do in my case. HAHAHA omg what an idiot!!! It's "your," not "you're." Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

That's his way of avoiding the real argument. Bring up something he thinks he can find fault in and go at it again and again and again until...

Not surprised he'd attempt that. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Danmarino always getting into a battle of semantics. First my "turn it on" phrase then whether we went through 4 picks vs trading 3 picks for one...

I think it's best if the critics like myself just don't participate in Tannehill threads anymore. We're not convincing anybody. We'll just let...

I agree completely but I'm more worried about time than money. He'll be 29 by the time his 6th season begins and he hasn't had one breakout...

This is a reasonable stance but I actually feel differently. I don't think he can average 4.2k 30/10 regularly. I think that's about his peak...

I'd be fine going with a safety if he's BPA. I wouldn't rule out any position aside from K, P and LS. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The only reason I compare them to Tannehill is because the same posters that tend to crap on clearly better QBs make excuses for him. That's not a...

You claimed I derailed the thread. It was a response to cbrad. Then danmarino continued on and on and on and on and on and on about a phrase I...

I'd rather take the chance Parker will remain injury prone than the chance of drafting someone as good as him who might still be injury prone....

Yeah, you're right. You give him credit for being great under Belichick and cheating. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Look for yourself. I responded to cbrad, then danmarino went on and on and on over semantics. You and him can feel you're calling a spade a spade...

Yeah, I was just arguing with danmarino yesterday about a post where he made claims Tannehill is great at a few things, yet he never gives credit...

I don't understand what you're getting at. You just made a post not too long ago about cherry picking. When I see a full season from Tannehill...

I don't make excuses, period. If I give credit to the Patriots, it's usually because somebody else is trashing them and I think they're full of it...

I'm actually from Miami. I just don't lie to myself and pretend anything about this team is great. I wish it was, but it isn't. This team hasn't...

Why do you act like Matt Ryan stopped answering your calls? And why do you act like Tannehill is anywhere near the same level as either of those...

Imagine if I said that... I'd probably end up banned. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

At this time of night, I'll take your word for it without Googling win correlation lol Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

How is it 17-0 vs 14-3? We only won 10 total games. I thought that achilles would kill his greatest asset, his explosiveness. Idk how he...

Wow, great find. That's 10-0 over 9-1. Good thing I have two Wake jerseys. After this fullstack program, I'm getting myself an Ajayi and possibly...

It's up to you how you weigh it if you're going to go through the work, that's just weighted according to what I believe is most impressive. I'd...

You're not kidding. Then I'm blamed for derailing the thread.

Yes, but when I'm ASKED what I MEANT, then I can't be criticized what my interpretation is. That's what derailed the thread. I originally...

Cbrad or Pauly can do some searching, but based off all the data I've sifted through, I don't think there's a stronger win correlation than...

I shouldn't have to when the phrase can be interpreted different ways, I didn't expect 100 posts over semantics. I already gave the analogy about...

After Ajayi gave opposing defenses a reason to hone in on him. He led the NFL in missed tackles. He led the NFL in YPC against 8 man boxes. He was...

This team will live and die by Ajayi. Thank God we have Tunsil to replace Albert. Aside from guard, I'm only worried about Pouncey's inevitable...

Tannehill will never have the highlights Luck has had. He will probably be more consistent, but that means he'll be a consistently slightly above...

This was my first post in this thread, which was a response to cbrad. Then danmarino started getting into an argument with me about semantics....

I didn't derail the thread. Danmarino did. Check for yourself. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Google polysemy. That goes for all of you arguing with me about "turn it on." You're just rephrasing what I already said. It doesn't necessarily...

Read jdang's post. He understands what "turn it on" means. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You're obsessed. I thought resnor was targeting me because you, him and Fin D are part of the contrarian club. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Exactly. Do we really believe the Pats were willingly unfocused in the first half of that SB? No, but they managed to "turn it on" the second...

That doesn't mean they're going to coast their way to whatever record they earn or not try as hard. It just means I believe they'd elevate to a...

Tougher doesn't necessarily mean close games. It can also mean high stakes games or comebacks or all like I said. You're assigning meaning when it...

I didn't refer to play in quality based on how much the team is trying to win. It's not a matter of wanting to. It's a matter of being able to....

You wouldn't argue the same about Tannehill if he was injured that early in the game and had to miss the next regular season game. But of...

You can find an instance of me admitting I was wrong about something before you can find any of you or danmarino admitting you're wrong. What's...

I never said they crapped the 1st half of the SB because they weren't trying as much. You guys are wrong about the meaning of the phrase. Turning...

Okay, you had your fun at my expense. So Ben was injured with 8:18 left in the second quarter and didn't return until there was 9:01 left in the...

Well we are talking about perception here, so I give more credit if they play the same no matter how high stakes the game is if other teams play...

The problem is if other GMs don't see value at 22, you're not getting much trading down. I'd only trade down from 22 if somebody valuable slid to...

And my point is they play their best when it matters the most because other teams tend to falter when they dig deep to win. Sent from my iPhone...

First you said I read the time wrong when it was 12 seconds into the second quarter. Now you're saying I read the time wrong when there's 3:51...

How can you not agree NE doesn't play much different in tough situations? How do other teams play in the highest stakes compared to them? Sent...

Okay, so I read it wrong, big deal, but an injured Big Ben didn't get back into the game until there was 3:51 left in the third quarter. And...

That's not cherry picking. That's all the data we have where he was playing for a playoff spot at the end of a season. That's the closest he's...