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never heard of him, sounds pretty obscure to me.

the raiders let grove go because he was always hurt, which is what also happened to him here. It was a gamble on our part with basically no chance...

I'm prob the last person that cares about spelling and grammar on a message board but I honestly can't understand your posts 90 percent of the...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVgFl1HgJIk&feature=related easier to see it hitting your heros hands. skip to 50 seconds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHlEbPfnnRs&feature=relmfu fast foward to the 38 minute mark. hits him in the hands, the snap was even better...

LOL, It's nice of you to delete posts after you insulted me too. Let me know when they make having a negative opinion of matt moore a violation of...

Now that's out of the way, the fumble by moore was his fault. I can't find a clip of it so if you can then go ahead and post it but it def hit...

he was apparently battling injuries last season

well they signed wake already and I think if long stays healthy next year they lock him up 2. Why would you dump your best player and create...

13 points? really? you're gonna blame the defense for giving up 13 points to one of the top offenses last season? If a defense holds an offense...

glad he finally cashed in and glad we've got him.

last season was 2011 wasnt it?

its actually a 20 something min video with gruden and there's no way you could have watched the game film and not atleast understood why we...

so we blame the coach because the back up quarterback sucks? can't we just admit moore is horrible? obviously the new staff agrees since they...

It was third and 3. He had a wide open WR and there was no pressure. It was a three man pash rush. He had ALL day to throw the ball and decided to...

who cares if they were 6-10 the year before? they dominated all season, that doesnt make them a miracle run int he playoffs like it does the...

Many LTs have been drafted number one overall....obviously thats the highest you could say that about any position. you can also make a case for...

near* it wont let me edit.

Pause the video at 7 seconds. Theres nobody about moore for atleast 5-7 yards and the outbreaking option rought to his left is wide open, he...

not on third and three with a three man pass rush and nobody near you. at worst he should have ran for the first down. Nobody in their right mind...

Better than ours. If you want to pray for a miracle playoff run for an 8-8 team then go right ahead. Look what a stellar Oline coupled with an...

it's prob a combo of both. miller dropper because of injury issues. It could end up being a smart move, it could end up being a waste. you have to...

this is why you draft OL and place an importance on the position. I don't understand how you make a post like this that makes sense then make...

They made an effort to do that in the draft but people like you piss and moan every time a Tackle or guard is drafted. WR we are on the same page....

I think you need to give him until atleast the middle of the season to see the direction of the team. I knew people who hated the hire right from...

maybe stupid fans thought that way. I'll admit I thought Johnson would have been better than he was. I expected to draft enourmous Olinemen and...

john avery had marginal skill and yatil green had marginal knees. I hate Jimmy Johnson. Thanks for passing on Randy Moss too *******.

better hope the pull the trigger on getting matt moore outta here then.

the drops from college, Ive seen most of them, wereall pretty much on their wrs and I'm talking wide open drops. I saw one where there second WR,...

btw, what you said is ballsy. I feel the same way but I don't know if I would ever make that move picking tannehill at 2 over the blue chips and RG3

its hard to say what we would have done. I wonder if indy would have budged off the number 1 spot to move down to 2?

Martin was graded as a 1st round talent and fell to us in the 2nd round. He's a tackle. No reason to think he'd play guard. The starting RT spot...

Since I'm fairly new where can I hear some of your older draft breakdowns to judge your success rate? I mean I pretty much fall in line with a lot...

I'm just glad we were put in the situation we were in and didn't give our FO the option to pick rg3 over tannehill. No homer but I really have...

It is what it is? Agree 100%

I'd be more eager to know who the babe is in the one dudes avatar with her *** up and sporting the thong.

I know nobody is perfect but I can't make out a single thought from your post. English is obviously not your primary language but I'm going to...

the point is that it's ZERO gamble because they couldnt rebuild enough in time to get to a super bowl with manning. them trying to gamble on...

define football IQ.

3-4 years woould be good for a team only a quaterback away from a super bowl. the colts however are the worst team in the league and basically had...

lol dont wanna watch full games

where can I find good tape on these WRs other than youtube?

Ha, let's not get crazy. Of course I'd like for Tannehill to be better than Luck but lets be honest, with Luck we're prob talking about the next...

I never really thought of vick as inaccurate but more along the lines of he doesn't know where to go with the ball. RG3 might have the more...

I think Ross is the one forcing them to be more media friendly and only for the fact that the dude knows how to be a bussiness man. Pure...

He's 6'5". How much taller do you want him to be and do you ever know what you're talking about? just saying.

From a football stand point marinos IQ was very high on top of having a laser rocket arm and the quickest release ever coupled with his ability to...

There we go! Someone else gets my point! I do disagree the colts gave up a lot for luck. Manning at best has 3-4 years left. The colts don't have...

disagree completely. He's def got a very live arm for short passes. The long passes look good IMO because he's got WRs that can actually run...

hope/wish in one hand and **** in the other. let me know which one fills up first. just saying. following that logic we should have drafted...

I don't know about having him behind weeden. Just as many question marks IMO. To me Luck is in a class all by himself then you have everybody...

The point is that the stakes are higher when you give up 2 first round picks and whatever seconds they gave up. Basically you're saying RG3 IS the...

Physical attributes aren't always the deciding factor in what makes a great NFL qb. Look at Drew Brees, Chad Pennington, Tom Brady etc etc etc....

Cam Newton and his success or failure have nothing to do with RG3 and what he ends up doing. I didn't really watch Newton in college because I...

I'm (not Iam) going to have to disgree with the weeden love and the weeden hate. I don't think his age is as much of a problem but Tannehill was...

They're both slot WRs, not number ones. Bess runs better routes but is way slower and gates has better straight line speed. route running has yet...

i feel like gruden lets them talk. you get a side of the player that normally only the scouts and coaches see plus he can highlight things they do...

It's hard to debate the lock on thing if you dont know the play call but i noticed they were all pretty much quick hitters as well. there are...

lol i guess all of incocks holds were against NE? he def had more than 5

we dont need swope. bess and gates are the same WR. he looks to be a gamer. I'd spend a 5th on him maybe a 4th

um sidney rice but he got hurt.

i just got done watcing the iowa state game....tons of drops. he missed what would have been six points on a busted coverage through the seam....

you and the23rd are now in the running for worst posters of the preseason. congrats.

whats the bike comment? i dont get it? yeah driver had touchdowns because he was on a team that actually scored points. saying he had as many...

I dunno, I see deep balls to blanketed WRs that should make a play on the ball. if anything he shouldnt have made the the throw. There was one, I...

i i attribute the deep ball stuff to having horrible WRS. a couple deep balls to fuller and he had no seperation. a couple others he just didnt...

and to the point about the colts, look how bad they became? Peyton Manning is a once in a generation talent that carried all their poor choices....

against good teams it did. Also factor in we had to keep people in to block and limit our playcalling based off the horrible line play.

Flashy WRs and DBs are the easiest things to hide on a football team, you can't hide a horrible Oline, see pittburg who basically drafted all O...

well guess how many balls your stud wrs catch if your quarterback is on his ***?

I think I'd judge his impact as positive if he comes in, starts and isnt a huge liability in pass protection. for a rookie WR it's hard to say...

because they were projects. The only WR worth taking that high IMO for a team like us would have been blackmon and maybe floyd if he somehow fell...

except the martin pick filled a vital hole for us and any WR taken there would have been a project. Just because our team has nothing on the...

Maybe i'll do that one next. I was thinking the oka state game from last year.

lol whatever man, can't you just agree with me for once or atleast get the point of what I was saying? The article sucks, the guy obviously...

I know it's hard but find a bad play too!

so a typo discredits his article? I think his lack of football knowledge does that all on its own. why would his team choking have any bearing on...

lamar miller dropped because of his shoulder issues. he was the number 2 talent at RB but most things i read.

which will mean dominance if true but how often does a player say he's not 100 percent lol I'd like to see someone brough in to play LG. Incog...

who said anything about the pro bowl? Jake Long, if he can stay healthy will end up in the HoF. He's everything and anything a team could want in...

But my understanding is that we have a lot of cap room after this season is over even after we pay wake and resign Long, the only two vets we...

yes sir.

I think Griffin graduated early with a real high GPA but honestly playing football is not rocket surgery. There's a certain level of intelligence...

So we're gonna ignore that Jake Long is a top 3, if not the best LT in the NFL because padre31, the supreme judge of oline talent says Jerry...

Jones you'd take on potential. Sure he didn't step up in houston when Andre went down but no Shaub either. Burress is old, doesn't run routes,...

i think the draft was okay. I really like picks 1 and 2 and won't blame ireland if tannehill falls flat because I've watched almost every throw...

I like the 4-3 better but drafting vernon doesnt make sense IMO if thats what we r doing. I guess vernon is going to play DE and odrick moves...

Teams like the giants are the exception not the rule. I'd also tend to favor the AFC in terms of overall talent. The only true power house in the...

i took think driver has anything left except what he can teach our young guys. hed basically be a WRs coach that stands on the sideline wearing...

again you miss the point. this team is not ready to win. there are too many holes to compete with the big boys in the AFC namley the PATS texans...

the jags are one of the teams worse off than we are on offense. Last year all the had was MJD, a true RB beast when RB beasts have been a dying...

I also like hyde. omar sucks.

I dunno, that long article was an extreme example but most of the reporting is pretty horrible when it comes to dolphins coverage. I dont blame...

i like camerillo but since that knee injury he hasnt done ****. Just goes to show how poor our WRs are if the man couldnt get a spot in minn. I...

I agree with everything in principle but welker is def more talented than bess. They're the same type of WR but welker does just about everything...

finally some math from you that makes sense! 9-7 is a bit of a stretch though.

meh, average defense is average. I'd like to see some progress from our younger DBs. Sean Smith needs to grab a starting role or be cut. I want...

I'll admit I thought we could win games with henne. Honestly he never got a fair shake here. Poor coaching, low talent levels around him and...

so because marshall was on a team with horrible coaching, horrible quarterback play, no right side of an o line and miserable talent levels around...

voted on by the players? sure has a lot more cred than any of the **** you say. 80 something balls and 1,200 yards plus a pro bowl appearance isnt...

lol i know i said I was done but this time im serious. couldnt let this go....he'll prob tear it up with the bears but he's just average? lol way...

lol marshell on a team like New England wouldn't have better production than marshall in miami?

I didn't say just name WRs in the nfl, they actually have to be better. lol I'm done with this debate if you're really gonna try and tell me jordy...

so no accounting for the teams those players were on huh? their skill sets are all superior to marshalls? You can't keep flipping it to...

I honeslty don't care how long someone has been here. if they say something stupid, I'm gonna call it stupid. if someone is a homer, Ill call them...

yac has to do with qbs as well. underthrown balls mean less yac. are you honestly going to say marshall is no good after the catch as well? lol

calvin johnson played out of his mind last year and average 17ypc. his average for his career is 16 ypc. last year marshall averaged 15 ypc. 15...

lol who the **** cares how you spell his name? You know what I mean don't you? I'm not saying I liked him or even disapprove of him being dumped...

so name the wrs that have more of an impact than marshell? Marshell isn't slow either and he's pretty nasty after the catch. Inconsistent hand...

there are other factors in the reason why the dolphins offense sucks more now than before. One being no right side of an the oline and the other...

1,200 yards and 81 receptions is not average when your next closest 2 WRs on your team don't mather those numbers. You ***** about tds...hartline...

The other guy is a troll. He knows what he is saying is wrong and stupid. he is either just trying to get a rise out of people or hates marshell...

pretty stupid article that doesnt really show anything about everything. every nfl team runs those formations, I don't get the point?

if we had traded every pick other than our second rounder (martin) to get back into the first round and grab decastro this would have been our...

If being a top ten WR in the NFL makes you average than i guess it really is true, you don't need above average WRs to win in the nfl. Some of you...

who the hell is delvin? I've never even seen him play and why do people think he's going to be good? if he cant get on a roster with moore as the...

yeah he pretty much did. addition by subtraction means the guy being subtracted sucked.

he threw moore and henne under the bus a couple times during his stay here. rightfully so with moore, the guy is horrible.

lol hartline and bess combined went for 1,086 yards, 83 receptions and four touchdowns. The only stat they beat marshell in by himself was...

lol here we go with the marshell sucks bull**** again. Did marshell bang your wife or something man? if you deny his on field talent you pretty...

I don't care how many wins we get this season. I only care about seeing towards the future. If i see promise and direction I'll be thrilled....

I still don't feel like Henne ever got a fair shot due to our horrible coaching/play calling and lack of talent around him. That's a whole...

yeah, I like the martin draft pick but until he performs at an NFL level the line is a question mark. Obviously his WRs are better here than in...

all of those rookie quarterbacks that got to start, throw matt ryan in there, were all coming into better situations in terms of the talent around...

i think youre not putting enough value on what his presence on the field meant for us, stats aside. If we were only going to get two thirds for...

yeah but other factors hurt our offense as well. Our oline starting from the wildcat year onward got progressivly worse every year. the WR talent...

Look, as a player I personally liked chambers better than marshell but marshell is the more talented guy, hands down. If you're going to take...

It's a delicate balance. You put someone in before they are ready and the speed of the game might wreck them to the point they never recover. You...

so when you see one of these WRs drafted with the pick or similar value that we got for marshell you let me know. the only WR I can think of...

and the pats because of both O and D line.

except brandon marshell was a proven top ten talent and this guy was undrafted. cheerlead away!

i read somewhere he struggled with injuries his senior year. cant be upset with the signing. if he's still a bum they cut him. no harm done.

both those linemen were horrible and I def didnt want the oft injured grove. still doesnt prove your point when you come into every draft thread...

as soon as someone says something stupid like "OL doesn't score TDs" I discredit them as having no knowledge about anything football related. when...

so a good coach would give him arm strenght?

the only possible way i see long leaving is if no deal gets done and suffers a major injury god forbid.

so whos skill set does he mirror in your opinion? I ask you because you seem to be one of the few who actually know what you're talking about.

i think this has to do with ross being a smart biz guy. He understands how perception can effect the dolphins brand. Being more open about what...

and as I said in the post you qouted, "that might come off as unprofessional". I'm sure philbin likes him (flynn) as a person and didn't want...

real hawt.

if his on field problems were because of injury he could be a steal...hell an UDFA making a team is a steal.

Where did I say stats = gospel? Stats were brought in to counter the argument that his productions was down, which if it was, was only slightly...

so basically on a good day he catches 5 balls? He's toward the bottom half of the league in skill set, production etc. He's not a great run...

this adds to my point of the school being on the decline. Maybe tate turns it around but that's a big maybe.

BTW, how many TE's are on our roster right now if you count clay who will fill a role like that. you guys really think fasano should stick around?...

fasano is average to below average at best and doesnt do anything exceptionally well. Can't say I'm a huge fan of the dallas cast off and would...

lol I bring the fantasy football argument to the table because you brought the statistical lack of production as a negative for marshell. The...

neither does 19 games in college. see how that works? point of the post which you missed was that id like to see ireland come out and say that...

he's undrafted for a reason but i wont fault ireland for giving him a shot. costs us nothing. we can always cut him but he's not a marshell level...

more statistical information that I don't always place a lot of stock in but your argument is his production was down here and to a degree you're...

fuller looks like crap. i heard he battled injuries so maybe he can make the team. Idont have high hopes.

your eyes must be pretty bad because those highlights from last year show him catching balls in double, tripple coverage, dominating DBs like cro,...

proof?

Cosign and to add a point, o line is more important to winning than RB because a great oline/scheme will be better for you than a RB like miller....

good for ireland sticking up for his guy in the face of horrible media representation. I'd also like to hear a more public announcement about why...

and we got people with glass knees like yatil green instead. lol. again feeds into the ten years too late mantra.

so we're going to ignore the lack of first round talent the hurricanes have been putting out compared to years past? the program went on steep...

flynn has arm and brain talent way about matt moore though, lets be honest. Flacco has the bigger arm, accuracy is about the same but flynn might...

Marshell wasn't force fed anything he was the only one looking to eat man. This TE they drafted is no where near the talent level of marshell. You...

I don't buy into the political analogy simply because if we win the negative stories stop. In politics the hacks will cheerlead for their side and...

lol and for you matt moore lovers, please skip to 4:05 mark and watch as your hero underthrows a WIDE WIDE WIDE open brandon marshell and he still...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsYej1KcY7I skip to about 50 seconds end to avoid the cry baby stuff at the start. You see him beating double...

not sure what games you watch but marshell is pretty nasty after the catch and draws comparisons to TO (good and bad) for it. When you're catching...

you're almost on the same page as I am except you seem a little high on hartline. Jordy Nelson is better talent-wise AND the packers also have a...

The talent that has been coming through miami has been on the decline. Like meister said before, 10 years too late but better late than never....

He doesn't look to be all that fast to be a seam threat though. All the stuff I saw of him was lined up wide catching fades. Am I wrong raf?

For as much as I think Matt Moore is horrible, tavaris jackson is an even bigger disaster. Atleast moore was never seen as more than a back up.

My view on flynn is he would have been a win now move just like manning would have been a win now move. Tannehill is a rebuilding move. Who knows...

Bells career is pretty much done. If he makes a pro bowl with another team I'll eat crow but the guy was getting older and wasn't very good to...

I'd rather forge a relationship with a team that wins but hey lets take a bunch of project players and injury ridden guys just because they come...

I'd like to see if philbin actually uses bush the right way, more as WR than a RB, but fasano can leave tomorrow for all I care. can't run, can't...

you let me know when any WR or TE we drafted this year makes a pro bowl because marshell made one last year on one of the worst offensive teams in...

take detroit for example. I bet the writters were down on them until millen was run out of town. Now I'm sure the writters love the new FO because...

The point is if they win, the negative **** stops. They havent been good for over 15 years. what do you expect the local beat writters to write...

they make me roll my eyes. tbh.

Thinking this rookie TE is going to come in and be as productive as marshell is down right stupid. He did make a pro bowl last season right? He...

We already have a slightly below average TE...two of them actually if you count clay. Our wrs on the other hand....suck. period.

Well that's pretty stupid. The guy was hurt his rookie season and didnt play. Then he had a camp shortend preseason and didn't really get on the...

I don't see how you can watch game film of this kid and not be excitied. He can make all the throws, he's athletic, throws on the run etc. The...

They write the way they do because this team has been a ****ing joke for 15 plus years now. I don't go out of my way to read them, I tend to stick...

he uses it in every post just about....

OL doesnt score TD's? That's prob the dumbest thing anyone has ever said about a general football strategy. How many touchdowns has any...

syas in the OP that he was hurt for some of those 40 times. welker is way better than bess, doesnt matter what team either is on.

he might be good i understand but id rather see a project at WR since we have nothing and this draft is supposed to be so deep.

I think someone needs to pre-read his posts before he says anything.

i forgot a letter grade.... how about C+.

ahahahahaha! Look mike80, you have no idea what you're talking about. It's okay. I saw your apology post in the other thread. It's just so...

ahahahahahaha

I've said it about million times, odrick needs another year or maybe even two since he didn't really see the field much last season. I also don't...

can we nominate that mike80 guy and the 23rd for worst posters? We have just about the worst group of WRs in the NFL yet you manufacture a...

i think now that were this deep into it who the **** cares? its not like we'd be grabbing any nasty talent anyway. colstons dont just grow on trees.

nothing like either guy except they play the same position. just because you put things in list format doesn't mean you have any idea what you're...

please tell me mike 80 is kidding.

The miller pick is the most perplexing to me. In a draft so deep at WR we come away with nothing. teams will be able to stack the box and play...

maybe we're finally doing the right thin with bush and moving him to WR lol

now I'm starting to get skeptical again...picks one and two I get but everything after that?

I just don't know about RGIII because they ran a lot of that fake option stuff first and second down. that's not gonna work in the NFL plus the...

Bench reps aren't always (almost never) a good measure. Warren Sapp comes to mind....but hey I punched out 27 reps yesterday and at my peak...

or anything having to do with football obviously.

I really want to punch one of these "linemen don't score touchdowns so lets never draft any" people in the face. They're not playing 7 on 7. This...

odrick was hurt and had limited time last year. he gets more time. davis however....either **** or get off the pot.

because his football knowledge is limited to espn highlights? as much as this is a pass happy league you still win and lose based on your line...

watching the limited highlights of stephen hill he looks nasty but he's kind raw and has a small build for his height.

I think the best TE on the board should go before any of the WRs left but I honestly have no information on the WRs still up for grabs. Typically...

who said moore is the starter? I think DG beats him out. He def has the talent edge over moore plus experience.

Gus was old and on his way out anyway. Brian Griese could have been good in the right situation but I'm pretty sure he didn't do much after he...

if he did it I hope he gets the max penalty. I really have no sympathy for someone who has access to all the money in the world.

i don't see barkley as the world beater talent that was andrew luck, if we hypothetically had a shot at luck like talent next year I'd try and...

then you get nothing for tannehill? basically a wasted 1st round pick after one season? won't happen. If we actually get the pick for barkley next...

If we don't fix the right side of the line I don't want him getting punched in the mouth every sunday. If we don't get some WR help I don't want...

I honestly think the kid is going to be good based on what I watched of his time in college. If he doesn't pan out then I won't blame Ireland...

he could still bust but I won't fault them for taking a shot on someone I watched tape on and think is going to be pretty decent in the right...

moore went 6-7 and didnt throw over 300 yards once last season. how many of the teams moore beat were playoff teams? ZERO.

i think they should hire the 23 as a cheerleader...hes def got the RA RA RA spirit.

if it was decastro i might have to re think this i hate ireland thing.

hes more talented than any other quarterback on our roster and he's also a more talented WR that any WR on our roster. If we cut moore tomorrow...

i voted yes but the only answer for another draft pick would have been luke kuechly. anything else is just stupid.

so youd take the quarterback with no arm over the guy with a busted knee? And culpepper to that point had one of the best stat seasons for a...

hindsight is 20/20...the point of the thread is to state what you thought at the time.

the only other player i would have been happy with was the MLB from boston college.

um you take the LT at 8 but that would suck from a fan stand point because most of you people dont understand the importance of o line play. look...

but where were u guys before we made the culpepper pick? did u want bress?

oh well my bad. his UM connection should have provided him better intel though.

behind trent "scrambled egg brain" green?

maybe i misworded the first post but im looking for what your opinions were of the quarterbacks/situations in the recent past or since dan marino....

wow I forgot matt moore.... matt moore - Great back up, not an NFL starter. Won a couple games against scrub teams some of which were won by our...

i hope we draft another another interior lineman. wow dansby came to camp in shape! ted gin jrs family really pulled it out in the fourth...

I think he "locks on" a little bit but i don't see a lot of forced interceptions into tight coverage. A lot of the outs and combacks it looks like...

lol aqua...why even bother wasting a pick on a late round qb? if it gets that deep in the draft we should just ride it out till next year....

any draft you get a hall of famer in the 3rd is an A plus draft in my opinion. jimmy johnson was a great late round drafter he was just horrible...

green wasnt so much a bust as you'd think, the dude just got hurt. jimmy dough boy johnson should have known the kid had bad knees since he...

lol, fine...less of a gamble. didn't know it was take everything literally day. The stat you dropped is pretty stupid too. just saying. I can...

"matt moore is 6-3 because you don't start counting the records until he wins a game!" matt moore was actually 6-7 is you count the chargers...

the question isn't if he going to be a decent football player, it's how much are you going to gamble. Unless I see a sure thing at 8 then why not?...

I just cry.

I've prob watched ZERO complete games of texas A&M but I've seen a good majority of his plays cut up. The kid can make every throw, he can run, he...

I don't think we draft tanny just for the sake of getting a qb. If our coaching staff, part of which coached him in college, likes the kid then...

that vid is a negative for tanny? yeah he threw a couple picks but that was one of the better college Ds and prob one of the worst WR corps for a...

when u only score 14 points against the browns you dont blame the D for losing. if anything you blame the play calling on D for sitting in the...

lol *I* watched three games and I say he sucks....give me a break

all the money we've spent on defense...i just dont get it. our offense is such garbage we really shouldn't draft any D unless its whatever the...

so if we drafted chad henne in the first round instead of the second would he still be hear? i dont get the logic. if the talent is there you take...

I wouldnt mind watching a bad team if there was some promise or hope coming from young players. last year I watched the first 4-5 games. hell the...

i think weeden plus a stud at 8 is better than tanny and what ever is left over in the second round unless we r really sold on him and get back...

thomas was hurt. cant render judgement yet

i really never understood the henne hate. he never had a fair shake with the horrible o line, horrible play calling, and horrible WRs minus...

if there's not a first round talent available to us then what should he do? the only sure thing right now looks like luck and hoenstly we need...

and u def take the stud over the reach, doesnt matter what position....well other than kicker and punter raiders fans.

that is the point...unless the qb is an abosulute stud then the o line is more important. hell, even a stud like brady is pretty horrible under...

nobody is saying he isnt a legit dude but the state of franchise right now (horrible, laughing stock joke) dictates that we clean house and let...

i would rather have tanny over a lot of these picks. its hard to rate him because youre judgement is influenced by hind sight and the fact garbage...

newton is nothing like young....newton is good. hell the people thought he was gonna bust were mainly because he's black and built like young so...

if we draft a MLB we have to get rid of fat dansby and his enourmous cap number. I like that move

i meant qb talent. the draft was deep. i also agree drug rumors hurt his stock but prob more so the poor season and bad stats.

id rather have dez bryant than odrick.

no, you'd have to gage what other teams would take a quarterback in the first round and you'd also have an extra top prospect dropping down a few...

so which of the top 7 is likely to fall? if its richardson what do we do if nobody trades down? lol draft him and move bush to our number 1 wr?

he's prob basing it on other teams and their needs plus players in front of wright. you trade down, build up picks and maybe get another shot at...

marino dropped because of the poor senior season and all the other talent that came out. I don't know how well tannehill will perform. I think...

it's hard to say about tannehill. if they take him it's because he shows the physical skill set. strong arm, throws on the run real well, ran a...

I love how people can predict the future and know so much more than all the scouts and GMs. What about his skill set tells you he's going to be a...

"holding happens every play" or so the saying goes. Wake gets molested though. Holds should count towards the player being held the same way a...

marshell was def a player other teams had to gameplan around. he got doubled and tripple teamed yet our other WRs couldn't do **** against single...

you wouldn't trade jake long, he's about to be in the prime of his career. Dansby is old(er) and isn't a pro bowler the way Long is. The idea...

there was no witty "he sucks" comment to start the thread. I said he was under performing his contract plus the fact we are a bottom ten football...

the thread is trash because I don't worship everything the dolphins do? Whatever man. He's not young anymore, he had a poor season last year till...

so in reference to the initial question, what would you expect if he were traded. Obviously it's my opinion and not the opinion of the other 31...

LOL don't bother then dupree. I'm sure the response would have been; " I love jeff ireland and dansby is the best!". You're nuts if you think...

and you're not getting a first for him unless you couple it with other picks/players because he sucks for the money he's getting.

under performing*. LOL i forget one word which is easily infered and that gives you the right to discredit my point? get a life homer. dansby is...

If we don't draft a qb and miss the playoffs again we better sell out barkley. If I had control of the team I'd realize we were rebuilding. I'd...

well, we have 4 soft games and we will atleast split the jets and bills games. if all goes well, 6-10.

do we play denver this year? that would prob be a prime time game.

19 reps at 225 is basically nothing btw. i think brady quinn did something like 25 or 26. I put up multiple sets of 20 reps as part of my work...

and then you tell the orginal poster everything he is saying is wrong so you agree with me.... btw, did your last post really need a whole new...

just because you put things in a list format and know the names of all our wrs doesnt mean you opinion is even close to valid. we have one of the...

you're. the validity of your post is gone. Hartline will improve this year but that's a big reach saying he'd be a legit number one WR. He def...

what if the browns pass on tanny and we trade down with a shot to get him still? if not we grab weeden or the BPA?

i agree with buckeye, ireland should have been gone too but that doesnt change the fact we are rebuilding. the defense needs more than a few...

it's a message board and my post was two sentences. really? and yeah you're not the brightest when it comes to sports knowledge when you consider...

i always wondered why gates never saw the field. maybe the injury was why? thomas def got put on lite duty after the hamstring injury which is...

south florida, as I am posting on a miami dolphins message board. our fan base for just about every sport is seen as fair weather fans/stupid.

I'll belive when we win a playoff game, how bout that?

this is why dolphin fans (south florida fans in general) are viewed a morons. This dolphins team is horrible. They have no talent anywhere other...

btw, I'd pick him at 8 if I were the gm. if he ends up sucking then oh well, youll be in a good spot to try barkley next year.

because it's reasonable to assume that the players a few picks back could have been picked at 8, the team picking 8 just missed them. it doesn't...

i think your example needs a bigger sample size. how about picks 8-15 instead of just saying the ****ty team that did ****ty enough to finish with...

rich gannon was pretty old and he a super bowl season with the raiders after playing a pretty average career. weeden wouldnt have the football...

I'd wanna murder him if he sold out to get to number 3 but didnt wanna offer anything for 2 or 1. trading up doesnt make sense while trading down...

ireland has 2-3 years for some of these picks to pan out. by then we should about pouncey, odrick and davis and who ever we draft this year in the...

garrad is better than moore.

btw, tanny is already better than moore talent wise and he's only started 19 games in college. better arm, more accurate etc. moore has reached...

odds are you won't have a top 3 pick in the near future. it just doesn't happen like that. eventually you're gonna have to draft a qb outside of...

i think i want weeden but i wouldnt be upset with tanny. i think weeden will cost less, maybe a trade into the second rd in front of clev

i think people can thrown the wolves, get dominated and never recover. look at the guy from the texans david carr. dude just took a brutal...

im all for trading fatdansby to give wake some more money...hell, the reality of it is we should trade wake due to his age and the fact it's going...

yeah but if they've never been taught how to run routes or came from a school that's run heavy etc. much easier than fixing the mechanics of a qb...

honestly, route running is the most easily taught of all the WR skills it just takes good coaching assuming the player you draft is athletic to...

I wouldnt mind a strategy of nabbing the best player available, which would mean passing on tanny and then going all out for matt barkley. I...

i wanted patrick willis from ole miss. I didn't mind the ginn pick only because it meant we weren't gonna waste 3 years on quinn but the ginn pick...

why are people so high on fleener? a TE? for a team with no quarterback, no outside WR, a miserable o line? really?

i honestly cant handle the stupidity in the matt ryan jake long debate. first off, matt ryan isn't that good. he's barely above average. he has...

its not where the quarterback is drafted, it's his skill set. some draft classes give you jim kelly, elway marino etc...the one with rivers eli...

I like what ive seen from highlights and what not. watched a couple full games with just his throws/runs. he def can rip the ball and he's...

wow. most quarterbacks taken after round one since 2003 prob havent had a legit chance to start for a decent team yet. the state is useless. you...

and if the list is about fantasy numbers, moore and henne belong at the bottom. neither should be drafted in standard scoring one qb leagues....

where's the stat for dropped snaps, not knowing the snap count and blundered red zone opportunities? how can u defend his performace in the...

didnt mckinne tear it up for the ravens last year?

thats called being smart on the part of the giants. just saying.

why trade back when you can take a player at 8 that fills another hole like DE and then trade up with your two thirds for a shot at weeden or tanny?

i was under the impression that burnet and dansby were garbage for the first 7 games. wether it be the lock out or whatever, dansby was def...

the only guy on that list i'd rather have is murrary and he broke his ankle or whatever. I'm telling you, he hurt his hamstring and it lingered...

moon was pretty good. top 15 of all time, no question.

how can people hate on thomas? he was hurt for the majority of the season, even when he was active. hamstring issues can linger and im sure at 0-7...

Stats don't always tell the whole story. Chambers was dynamic in a sense that he could go up and get balls like marshel did but he's no where near...

reaching for the sake of reaching is stupid. I wouldn't be that upset with a tannehill pick at 8. I wish we had lost a few games last year so we...

throws on the run pretty damn well...has some zip on his throws. seems like he'd need coaching/game time reps to make all that more consistent....

if your wrs are this horrible teams just stack the box and press you all day. We did it to the raiders because their WR core is that horrible,...

hartline can wait. the only upside to signing him this year is you might get him cheaper than if he has a monster season this year.

stats don't matter when the talent is actually there. lol watch the clips even in the orginal video. the "oh marino was a first round qb we should...

trade down in front of cowboys for decastro. o line pretty much fixed with 3 1st round players. lol.

Yatil Green, John Avery, a couple years of no picks, Jamar fletcher, two more years of no picks, Vernon Carey, Ronnie Brown, Jason Allen, Ted Gin...

i dont know how people think matt moore can make a deep playoff run. stupid?

nobody thinks we will go for an elite pash rushing end since we didnt even talk to anyone during FA and want to move to a 4-3? if blackmon is at 8...

shouldnt be pretty clear that atleast the offense is rebuilding? we don't even have a legit number 2 WR let alone a number one. Bess is okay in...

they are rebuilding/getting younger its just that word is a dirty word for fans. You actually think we were gonna compete for the AFC east this...

thomas was hurt last year and ran behind one of the worst o lines in football. what was he? a third round pick? its weird the same guy blowing...

wow. the only thing that makes us better than the jets is that we actually know we are rebuilding. I'd rather go 0-16 one season and get better...

go watch the dallas game from last year that moore single handly lost for us (or any game against a 500 plus/playoff team). He's inconsistent and...

if the dolphins trade to get back into the middle of the 1st round for tannehill.....maybe use the two thirds they got for marshell could anyone...

just stop. matt moore is not a franchise quarterback. he's a back up/stop gap until we find someone. he's not good...just stop the nonsense, all...

this debate is so hard for me. I think ireland sucks but then the fireland crew says stupid **** like jake long wasn't worth his pick and LT's...

wow is this serious or just a hard troll? I would have taken long over ryan all day but this is nonsense.

wow, bell needed to go. he isn't that good. I don't know what SS pull as far as contracts in relation to bell but he's passed his prime and his...

no it doesn't. Even if we get better we still might lose more games based on who we play etc. would it really matter if we win 7 games and miss...

people are realy listing matt moore as a good pick up? a back up qb? really? i don't know enough to seperate the parcells from the kicker from...

will allen was old and coming off a big knee injury. his best days are behind him. gotta realize we're rebuilding and i think this new staff is...

yeah only a few players away! RG, RT, LG, atleast two WRs, and a quarterback on ofense. Then for D all we need is a CB, FS, a decent pass rushing...

do people actually think this is a good move? hes a stop gap guy until we find a real quarterback. maybe we draft tannehill and moore garrad and...

if we get tebow to play quarterback im offcially done with the miami dolphins.

the answer to all of everybodys problems? boycott the team. don't go to games, don't buy dolphins stuff and don't even watch the games on TV. if...

hey if you want to spends hundreds of dollars on a ****ty product, ie the teams they have put on the field for the last 10 years, then go ahead....

Jimmy Johnson. Yeah he hit on the defense and draft picks in late rounds but John avery, Yatil Green...passing on randy moss for john avery? with...

a guy that doesnt touch the ball? really? thats your logic? you build teams from the ball out. very rarely do you have a team with a horrible o...

what did he say?

its based on two games. anyone who thinks matt moore should be our quarterback is a moron. matt moore will never have the kind of games flynn has...

imagine if we pass on flynn because phil doesnt like him and he blows up....how pissed would u be?

Manning, wayne and draft best available o line at 8 to play RT, RG Flynn, mario williams and draft stud WR or best available o line If we have...

ronnie brown would be a better quarterback than matt moore. lol at thinking moore is better than flynn.

ill take manning saturday and wayne. move pounce 2 LG and draft the dude from USC and for RG or convert him to a tackle. then either bess or...

taking manning gives us two to three years to keep looking for a qb. taking flynn means the same thing if he doesn't pan out. 2-3 years of a bad...

skill positions can be hidden. you win football based on the big uglies up front, both offense and defense. Oline should be priority number one....

you got one year of water gun arm, who was the best quarterback since danny boy and that's even more pathetic.

def not a no brainer for the browns. they sit at 4. who's 3? a team not drafting a qb. so why would u dump all that for basically nothing. browns...

flyn is 500X better than moore. I'll reserve the right to be pessimistic until i see what we do on draft day and free agency. ive been abused for...

ha like this guy...the only one id give you is orton.

i dont wanna see it. i wanna see him go somewhere and do well. the only advantage him going to jets for me would be to laugh at other dolphin fans...

getting manning and still drafting a qb first round? you're all crazy.

yeah, real worthless seeing how a player can move in space and putting a measure on how fast they can run....lol I'll agree some things are...

our offense is pure trash and our defense is average. obviously the focus should be not being so horrible on offense. the stats about 13 points...

the overall point of the OP is that drafting a qb early doesnt mean he's going to be good. if the talent isn't there either move up to get it or...

and on the same note, how is moore good? did you guys watch him play at all? he's inaccurate and his big plays were mostly toss up to marshell and...

how was thomas bad? he was hurt and when he came back they didnt play him. plus the o line is garbage. cant judge him yet imo.

Jake Long (HoF talent), Mike Pouncey(unproven rookie, might be good), Anthony Fasano(bum), Reggie Bush(still not an every down back, not used...

this is lose-lose for dolphin fans. dont you all know how many obnoxious stupid new yorkers live down here?

if youve gotta give up picks for flynn...no way do i want him.

the amish rifle in buf is pretty decent dude. those WRs drop everything and their HC is a bum. last time i checked the lions are an NFL defense....

i can't read this pro moore nonsense anymore. you people are just as moronic that think tim tebow is a legit starter in the nfl because he won...

theres another difference between desean and colston....desean sucks and colston doesnt.

people need to get off the rg3 train. he's not a better prospect than barkley. if you have a mid 1st round pick on a team with an average qb or...

yes, i hope we win a few mow meaningless games so we don't even pick in the top ten. i want to see daniel thomas play. i want to see gates play....

if the colts would switch picks just for those bum players I'd do it in a heart beat. can prob find semi pro wrs or arena league guys who are just...

might have a little bit to do with the rams being a horrible team. arent staford and bradford from the same draft class?

id rather rebuild than take a risk with a bum like moore. Def don't want rg3 either. way too risky and whoever our coach is will be married to...

yeah i agree...people getting placed into jobs they arent fit to run. that's def whats wrong with america.

yeah, i feel so bad for him making his millions of dollars for being horrible at what he does. give me a break. hes horrible. run him out of...

good riddance. and fistpump away!