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I have a background in baseball and have studied throwing mechanics fairly extensively. The thing that you noticed with Drew Brees is that his...
Sadly this is exactly what I'm preparing for. The one thing that makes me nervous about all the 2nd round receiver talk is how hard it seemed for...
In that case he won't make it past the jets...... sorry had to do it
Really interesting way to look at it I'd like to see the writer go one step further and list them in order of the difference of expected ranking...
Brown has 9 tds. I think that the value he brings as a returner needs to be considered when looking at his contract.
I get why tannehill should have limited hartline, but hartline had by far his most successful year so my question is how did tannehill hinder him?...
What about Hartlines prior years makes you believe that tannehill hindered him?
Or is he the Dame in Notre Dame
I know that this may be the laziest player comparison ever, but I just watched his game against Colorado state and couldn't help but see some rob...
The play that starts at 0:32 in the Alabama game shows just how athletic this guy is, he is running step for step with lacy. I'm really excited to...
He is a redshirt freshman, meaning right now he is two season separated from his high school graduation.
Was he really good in 2007 when his qb rating was 73.9?
Despite the spiral of this thread I think the actual purpose was to show that while our supporting cast can definitely improve and help the...
Alex Smith signed a 3 year deal, but I think can be released after this one without much cap hit because I think he's been paid his garunteed...
I think that joe flacco is a great comparison their stats are fairly similar. Obviously joe was on a better team and was asked to do less, but I...
I agree with this, for us to become Super Bowl contenders a lot of the burden falls to Tannehill. In the mean time I believe that our talent...
Like I said tannehill absolutely must improve, but how is it fair to ask tannehill to play like arguably the very best quarterback in the league...
I have seen you ask this numerous times and the answer is because rookie quarterbacks do not normally take over a team that just got done with a...
That shows me that the patriots supporting cast is 3.5 points better and that the falcons supporting cast is 2 points better. The added 3.5 points...
What I was pointing out is that an 86.5 qb rating from tannehill generated 21 points, while a 40.5 rating from Matt Ryan generated 23 points...
So then you would agree that our average score would go up with better receivers, but are just pointing out that when tannehills qb rating is...
I think that the scores of the dolphins and falcons games against cardinals would disagree with your notion that both teams score similarly based...
I think that something that should be pointed out is that the falcons are also one of the oldest teams in the league meaning that they may be...
I think Marcus Davis is an interesting prospect to watch, maybe the Stephen Hill of this class? 6'4 about 230 not sure what his 40 is going to be...
I didn't see him against Kentucky, but the times that I have seen him he hasn't looked right. I think that he's going back to Arkansas for his...
Giving Egnew a chance is a great idea, and if he's just not a capable blocker why not try splitting him out at receiver? I would rather that we...
Haha I'm just messing with you I really wish that we could have tannehills fumble back. Part of the growth process I guess.
Higher .... Hold on... So we won right?
I thought it was qb rating last week...
Please name for me one instance when there was a player on the Dolphins whose development or performance was truly being held back by the players...
No the sample size as it relates to players that the board thought were held back is two, it can't be each person that thought that.
I was here for some of the Henne stuff but the argument for the most part was that the coaching hurt him, but again I think the problem you're...
What people has the board said were being held back by a position and then were proven wrong?
I absolutely agree but who's to say that Tannehill won't do that? If I remember correctly when we drafted him he was the most inexperienced and...
I think a more relevant question would be when is the last time someone got better after game 3 of their career? Or even more specifically when is...
What happened to everyone has the right to believe what they want? Should you Saying that you're better than any god piss people off? It seems...
I never said faith in god is the only type of faith I merely stated that his faith in god is what he uses to gain inner strength and that I see...
In my line of work I spend a lot of time with people from the Dominican republic and if you do not think that religion, regardless of your...
how often are successful people the ones that take credit for what they've done? often the ones that do are the type of people that have success...
http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/10/29/stories-of-the-season-the-revis-10/ At one point in the season Revis had only given up 10...
I'm not a huge fan of Matt Moore as the future but, 2009 - 137.5, 2010 - 89.4, and 2011 - 81.0. Those numbers seem a little bit better. Now I do...
My biggest concern about Henne regardless of fit in the offense would be these numbers, 49.3, 58.4, and 11.5. These are his Quarterback Ratings...
In all fairness Mike McCarthy got his start under Marty Schottenheimer.
Finally someone bringing some common sense to this thread
Well that explains the jump in Chad's rushing numbers this year.
I think that we need to be more objective about Henne, especially now that he's a free agent. Let's try separating him from our team. If he was...
Lawrence Taylor went to UNC... I think Newton had a little more impact than Little in the first year he got to play... But I think it's fair...
I completely agree with what you're saying, but I think you would agree that if we ended up with little and jernigan or James and jacoby Jones...
The bottom line that I think everyone would agree with is regardless of Hartline's role next year we have to get better in our 4 and 5 receiver...
How can we be sure? Just kidding! Originally I wasn't a fan of him, but the more I see of him the more I'm fairly confident that he could have...
You suggested that someone look at his 2007 highlights. So I thought it was relevant since the man has obviously lost a step making his highlights...
You do realize that running backs have a history of not aging well, right?
No doubt some parallels, but I think fewer than it would seem at first glance. The media feeding frenzy this year has to count as adversity, very...
I definitely hear what you're saying and agree with a good amount of your original post, but while Cam hasn't had to face that much heat from...
I just think that you two are arguing to argue at this point I don't think that you disagree all that much. GM, you undoubtedly think that Henne...
Why would the browns even be interested? If they go ahead and make that trade we should see what it will take to grab Colt McCoy from them,...
Trade back and get us Titus Young! Could be our Desean Jackson.
I loved Ponder prior to the season, but his showing in the bowl game scared me quite a bit. I think if his arm checks out he's probably the most...
Matt Leinart?
I stand corrected, but regardless I think it's lazy to simply decide that the NFL let him take it again because they wanted him to succeed or to...
This is the first reasonably thought out and stated version of why it would make sense to question Cam Newton's mental readiness in the NFL. Thank...
...I would lean more towards his suicidal tendencies and immaturity, especially considering his 26 - 13 record as a QB, while I understand people...
You have to understand why this makes you look a bit unreasonable. Rather than simply accepting the fact that his score was higher than the first...
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/3687374.html Not trying to be rude, but you're calling people out about lying...
I beg you to PLEASE!! show me where on wikipedia you found that. http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/special_reports&id=7447191 I...
It's a shame that a bunch of these guys don't get to show off at the combine, last year it would've been fun to see Joe Webb post some of these...
That would be pretty neat, I'll bet you a million dollars that when it's all said and done their scores do add up to greater than 10. It's weird...
It's awesome you got to sit down and break down film with him to find that out, any video of it? Those stupid championship winning high school...
fox sports has him listed as 27 http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player/rashad-jeanty/418843
Or Jermichael Finley, Charles Woodson, Ryan Grant, Nick Barnett, and Brady Poppinga right?
I'm not one to say that Henne needs to go or anything like that, but while we are an impatient bunch that's not a trait that is exclusive to...
With the Packers winning the Super Bowl tonight and all of this talk about how great and storied a franchise they are I thought it would be...
Finley and Poppinga were also missing from tonight's game.
We were 1 and 15 the year before they came in and you really think that they ruined the franchise? I would say we weren't in the best of shape...
I'm actually from the Washington DC area and I would say that's exactly what happens there. They have no problem selling out and certainly...
Great post!
We should draft cam newton...... did it happen?
Yeah I mean people are talking about how unimpressive 1000 yards is in today's NFL, but really with the way that we split carries I think that...
I can't speak to the vision, that may be a fact, but pass blocking with most running backs usually improves as they go on in their career. The...
I agree with this idea (I think that I could still bring myself around to watching the dolphins during that 10 year span though), but I'd MUCH...
Haven't read it, but I'll have to check it out.
How many games have you watched hoping that the other team will beat us? How many seasons have you gone into hoping that we don't win a Super...
There's a book about business called "Good to Great", it explains how certain companies take off, while others fail. An aspect in this book is...
I respectfully disagree.
I think it's ridiculous for us to discredit Hilliard based on a lack of touches, I mean how would we have felt at the beginning of the season this...
I think that Hilliard could become a solid every down back, but aside from that I think it's a little more concerning that more and more...
I understand that we need to take more chances at the QB position, but is it not a concern at all that Chase Daniel was more successful in that...
Blaine Gabbert falls to 41? Not impossible, but I would be shocked.
This seems counter intuitive. Religious people as a whole aren't afraid of Atheists, but unlike most "religions" a large part of Christianity is...
I've had this same thought, and think that having a QB that knows what Daboll wants done would be an asset for us, regardless of what other ways...
So then 17 and 3 against teams like the lions browns and bills? That seems a bit better than a team I remember playing in Miami this year
Ha surely you have no bias on the subject.
Honestly if we were to take a chance on someone like this, I'd rather it be Alex smith. I think that his constant changing of coordinators really...
2 years ago my baseball team was playing on ESPN and Erin Andrews was in our dugout to do a mid game interview with our coach. Our diva had just...
1. Christian Ponder, yes. Greg McElroy, no. It may be my bias, but I just don't see him as a great NFL QB I think he'll be a solid back up though....
I agree with what you said, but I don't think that it necessarily is something that he should be condemned for. I'm sure many of us have been on...
You forgot to include signing Incognito in your original post maybe that's where the confusion is stemming from? One thing that scares me with...
Can you imagine the months of Pat White comparisons? That's a nightmare in itself, but I could definitely get behind that. He's a bigger framed...
I like the way that you had us acquire picks and if we could actually do that it would be huge for us. I would love to end up with Carimi,...
I like both of these drafts, I think that we could supplement these with a free agency where we sign, a Left Guard, a Running Back, and a Tight...
It's mock draft and off season time, and I know many of us have opinions on what needs to be changed to make our team successful. I thought it...
No...
This makes sense to me, but of course don't agree fully (what fun would this be if I did?). My main point in that post was meant to be that to...
A solid off season I would be ecstatic if this was what we ended up doing. If I had to make any changes, they would be minimal. The main thing...
Exactly! For some reason it seems like a lot of people believe that Ireland actually wishes ill upon our Dolphins, I think that he's made...
See I don't love this definition, because if it's top 3 than you're not including one of either Manning, Brady, Rivers, or Rodgers. On top of that...
I agree with this completely, I mean from what I remember Percy Harvin ran something like a 4.4 at the combine and I don't think anybody doubts...
I mean certainly you think he played well this year in the regular season? Outside of any playoff wins I would still put him in the top 5 QBs...
I definitely get what you're saying, my one point was just that it shows the players impact to the game and no doubt Vick impacts the game. I mean...
Quick warning this is more than a little off topic. I think that QB rating needs to find a way to include rushing yards. Not that a lack of them...
Sold! Marshall, Edwards, Bess, Hartline, and Young or Jernigan.... I mean seriously Diva syndrome aside we would scare people.
How about you don't hook up with drunk sorority chicks? This is something that should be left to college dudes like myself without the money and...
A few things I picked up in the Chad Henne highlights: Jake Long!!! Am I right? It seemed like Henne never really had to go through...
This might not help how they play, but how about using their stupid twitter accounts for something that actually could benefit society. Their...
Bring us Titus Young and I will be happy, that dude is explosive and can absolutely be similar to DeSean Jackson for us.
Honestly I would have a very hard time putting Brees ahead of Roethlisberger. I can't see many QBs succeeding with that Offensive Line. I...
I agree fully with you and I think that something as simple as adding Greg Little and Titus Young in this draft would have huge results for us....
The change that I would like to see is putting a tight end like DJ Williams or Lance Kendricks at that 3rd round spot, and hopefully we could go...
Also Ingram's face is slightly wider
That Chris Johnson guy has turned out OK from what I hear.
YES!!!! It's ridiculous I've been saying that for awhile. I just think that his health is the biggest difference between Alabama's last two...
As true as that is I really think that our running backs were too slow to hit some of the holes that were there. Our offensive line was not a...
Atleast Colt McCoy looked good (Outside of the Steelers and Ravens debacles), their offense worked a lot better with him under Center. This...
I don't think anyone is saying that he played with a pee wee team, but I think you'll agree that there isn't another player in the country that...
Congrats?
I realize Fairley didn't play much last year and became a big deal during spring practice, but even with him the defense wasn't what got them to...
Some of what you say make sense to me, but I think the talent that was put around him has been blown out of proportion. I mean this is the same...
I'm not an advocate for Mallet, I think that he's a Petrino product and is surrounded by tremendous talent. Despite this, I can't agree that he's...
Exactly we basically drafted the same guy last year and edds size seems to translate a little better to the 3-4 Ilb position.
Okay that makes more sense to me. He did make it through one semester at Auburn, maybe he learns from his mistakes?
Yeah but even he has an awesome line if the Falcons could get any pressure up the middle he'd be less effective. Either way his pocket awareness...
I could not agree more the difference between Ryan and Flacco v. two of the best playing the position yesterday was blantantly obvious. They both...
I think a huge part of them being able to get away with a weak line is the fact that Big Ben fits his name, where as Matt Ryan is at least 30...
Come on, Seriously? This is a deal breaker for you? You went to a big time football school, I'm sure you went to school with some guys that did...
Based on his stats I've got to guess he's a special teams guy http://www.cfl.ca/index.php/roster/show/id/2435 Only 16 tackles 5 of which were...
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post?id=35775 What a nightmare for them huh? Just when they seemed to be becoming a real football team.
Good to see another NoVa person on here, I'm from the Prince William/Manassas area. I'm currently not up there due to school, but I love the...
Yeah and Pat White was switched from Quarterback to the outfield.
Yuck
I am on the side that believes that Henne does need some more time for us to find out exactly what we could get out of him, but to say Pennington...
Like I said without the baggage, I have no proof that Newton is as mentally challenged as Vince Young. Also how has dumbing down the offense hurt...
Sorry about that I totally read it wrong. On an unrelated note not sure if everyone has seen this,...
In all fairness he was walking with a noticeable limp. This undoubtedly affected how aggressive he was in his running. I think that the game was...
Am I the only one that thinks comparisons to Vince Young's playing ability isn't the worst thing in the world? I would gladly take in a Vince...
I think that this is a great thing, especially considering one of, if not the greatest current GMs, Ozzie Newsome; has had next to complete...
Not advocating either side, but you had a question and I felt I could answer it better than most. I actually have a friend who was a executive...
But they keep making us play offense!
This is actually one of the big questions I have on the guy, would he be getting the same coverage and hype if Flacco hadn't been moderately...
Is Brad Childress not a feasible option? I wouldn't mind having that sort of Andy Reid offense here, it seems to make QBs play better. I think...
At first I was upset with your Patriots nonsense, but then I thought about your other football team. I really feel like some of you Dabo...
Fan is short for fanatic which is defined as extremist: a holder of extreme or irrational enthusiasms or beliefs... So we're just living up to the...
And this is different?
Who cares he's the coach you can throw fits all you want, but nothing is going to change (except you allegiances apparently). I think it's...
If you like locker this would make you happy http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2011.php
My buddy played baseball at Stanford when Harbaugh was just getting there and he mentioned a few things: He is very intense, according to their...
Thank you! This super bowl or bust stuff is ridiculous! Why as fans would we hold the fact that the guy signed a large contract against him? We...
Our last two games this year really made me want to take a look at our defense, and what it was that made them turn around in such a short time,...
Two people that in the past put Dancing and Smoking ahead of their profession. We replaced Jason Taylor pretty well I think.
I would do a word association: Say the first thing that comes to mind.... Quarterback Field goal and so on.....
As far as scouts recommending to Weeden that he stay in school because of his age, that is kind of counter intuitive. You know considering that...
And these are that they're both white? IMO Bess is a closer comparison to Shipley, but I would rather just get an explosive compliment to Brandon...
:Warning only wanted to throw an obvious point in that someone would have made otherwise: I guess a 4.71 can only take you to the Hall of Fame...
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4788055 If you remember Brandon Marshall and McDaniels squared off on issues outside of strictly...
You really can't see why nolan and Marshall wouldn't want to work with mcDaniels again?
Does your desire to have McDaniels override your desire to have Nolan, or to keep Marshall well behaved? Not saying that either of these things...
I really think that you're thinking of the old Palmer because that just isn't true anymore. I think at this point he wouldn't give us an arm much...
There are rumors that Kubiak will be retained and that Wade Phillips will be his Defensive Cordinator. Also is anyone else disappointed that...
Todd Mcshay wanted to seem like he had an original thought maybe?
No Mcnabb please he's very bad
At center we have Richie Incognito, he was a strength of our Offensive Line last week. At Tight end Fasano is good, I don't understand why...
Not really a sleeper due to the hype from the beginning. But outrageous athleticism and a great arm, but he's very very raw and inconsistent.
So this isn't a comparison of Henne to Thiggy it's a comparison of Henne to a made up average replacement, otherwise who would Brady and Manning...
Other funny tidbits from the site: Hartline is above both Desean Jackson, Pierre Garcon, Dez Bryant, and Brandon Marshall If you want to know...
Some really surprising guys below Henne on this list, this makes me want to bring Donovan McNabb in here even less (if that was possible). After...
I really liked those guys while they were here especially Grove, but I think we may have squeezed everything they had left out of them as neither...
Okay I'm just having fun with this at this point... Brandon Marshall is undoubtedly a play maker, but have we seen him do these things this year?...
I'm with you I was just getting at the idea that I don't think we know what Hartline is capable of just yet because he like everyone else is...
I'm with you I was just trying to say that I don't think he has the 1st gear anymore.
I actually think there is a really good chance that we add some weapons to our receiving corps this off season based on the fact that we have...
I think it's silly to compare Bowe and Hartline as far as pure ability goes, Bowe is a bonafide #1 receiver whereas Hartline is considered at best...
That's fair I just thought Suh looked a lot less dynamic when Incognito was at center rather than Berger
How dare you? Joe out Vicked Vick did you see the pure amount of people that he made miss in the backfield? And yeah personally I think it is...
I would also like us to add a young running back. I don't care if it's free agency or the draft I just think it's time to start getting younger there.
I really don't think people are excusing Henne as much as we're looking at the fact that he really is our best option at the moment so why...
Honestly I just think that Ronnie Brown no longer has speed, watching him as of late it looks like he's running in sand.
I think this blogger he's refering to is a quote by Brandon Marshall
I love it. You gotta love how he did against Suh. Not only did he give us some of our best center play on the year last week, I think that was one...
Oh I completely understand your "points" I'm just confused on your suggested course of action. Who do we replace him with? Because as nice as it...
That's not fair you can't compare mere mortals to Joe Webb, this success he's having at QB is actually probably going to hurt his career because...
He definitely looks better there it seems like there's a good selection of solid 4th-5th round type receiver prospects this year. So.... is...
I actually had a chance to see Jernigan in person earlier this year and I don't know if he had an off game or what, but he just didn't look...
Yeah let's sure up the running game and make it our strength again. Then maybe add that downfield threat, I love the Mike Sims-Walker idea, but...
Surely Dan Henning deserves just as much credit? Just Kidding, it is awesome to actually see some positive stats regarding our phins for once....
I was talking about the post directly above mine about orton being a below average qb. I probably should have quoted that one.
How did you get access to a computer?
No way he's below average
Come on someone bite he looks awesome for a 1st year 6th round quarterback
And one cost us a 2nd round pick the other wouldn't have
Nailed it! Our running backs are just old.
Just kidding! But man is he fun to watch. I was pulling for us to pick him up late as a receiver in April and if this quarterbacking thing doesn't...
I think it might be a reach that we could get him for as little as a 3rd
I would prefer not to go with orton because if we can get him for a 3rd and henne officially becomes a bust then we'll have to use a 1st the next...
Also if Luck and Gabbert don't come out this year I'd much grab a first round QB in 2012 it could be an awesome class
Rather than giving away draft picks how do you feel about Shaun Hill? I'm fairly certain that he's a free agent this year and he looked pretty...
I tend to lean towards the Henne needing more time side, like I said in my *** backwards statistical analysis a few weeks back I think he can...
Okay dude I'm sorry that I read your post wrong I just assumed that everyone knew that quarterbacks mis fire on long passes, but having read some...
Hence the apology
How in the world did I bash Henne? I said he should start next year, but that we need an experienced back up because there's no way I would be OK...
So what was that point? Was it that this makes them like henne? Because if so it is a comparison
This is either an implied comparison or you're just asking how many times Brees and Ryan overthrew their recievers because you want to know the...
No way after watching the game last night you can compare the way that these two played with Henne. It's not about over throws it's about the way...
I actually agree 100%, especially if we keep Ireland and if Nolan will wear his suits.
I really liked him in the LSU game especially the way that he led his team after losing all those players. What were some of the causes of his...
I'm absolutely sold on getting a faster guy, but I'm not sure that he even has to be as dynamic as a Vincent Jackson to completely change how good...
I agree with every point you made, the one exception I take is with Bess I just don't think you're giving him enough credit I think that he just...
You and I both know that it's not strike percentage it's the quality of the pitch, and at this point he's not consistently throwing quality...
All your saying is that chad henne has a power arm which I agree with. What I'm saying is that in order for him to be successful with his power...
While I definitely twisted the argument, I did so only to try to use your own analogy to try to prove a point I didn't realize that just because...
This phrase just confuses me, I promise you this is not sarcasm, I would actually like to hear why. Outside of his pure arm strength he just...
Let's not forget that we signed our offense aka Dan Carpenter in 2008 as an Undrafted Free Agent. Which gives us 4 at least average starters from...
Outside of Vince Young's immaturity and knowledge of the playbook, or lack there of, he's actually been a fairly successful quarterback in this...
You do realize that Randy Johnson was an average pitcher until Nolan Ryan and Tom House worked with him on commanding his off speed.
I've seen quite a bit of Ingram and he's a pretty special player, I think that a lot of Alabama's woes this year have been from simply getting...
My one thing with the Henne requiring more time because of where we drafted him idea is that he was just about as experienced as you could hope...
Also gives him something in common with Ricky
I find it odd that people are negatively commenting about the inferences made from a statistical analysis, but ignoring the fact they are making...
You mean he purchased stolen answers :)
I say that because the test is supposed to measure not only intelligence but also how quickly you can make the correct decision. I don't think...
No it didn't. So.. is this not really valuable in player evaluation?
I recently came across a list of Wonderlic scores, is it general knowledge that Henne scored a 22? The average for a starting QB is 28.1 according...
Yeah, but we rotate pretty heavily on the d line. He's been awesome for us lately.
He is about to be a free agent, but I would be shocked if we let him walk. We definitely want him back and it doesn't sound like his asking price...
Neither of our Running Backs can get to the holes quick enough or do anything in space. If a guy is in front of them they get tackled, they really...
Before you attack someone for their assessment maybe you should dig a little deeper. Isn't possible that their great numbers against the pass are...
I can see your point with Eli, but like you said I think the defense and running game were much bigger parts of that teams success. To me the...
Certainly the 2007 giants with Eli fit into that category also? He certainly wasn't a top 8 QB that season and really hasn't been in his career.
What's the general consensus on Steven Friday from VA Tech, I know I watched him dominate against Boston College and a likely 1st rounder in...
I definitely think that it couldn't hurt. I wonder if like Paul Soliai, Henne has some work ethic problems that need to be dealt with? On a side...
Reshad looked like he knew how to catch against the Titans, once he gets a little more experience I think he's going to be the game changer in the...
Marine you and I are definitely on the same side as far as this goes, but I mean can you just admit that there are no stats that will do...
I actually would really like to see your magical stats that do this please. Okay I get it this isn't a very thorough statistical analysis, but...
Ha don't you worry about science and I, we have parted ways a long time ago.
It's finals week for me so obviously I was bored and had to find something else to do, rather than study. I've read the forum before and noticed...