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How far were we behind against the Ravens on the road going into the 4th quarter last year?

Bearing in mind the title of this thread, which is to enjoy what's happening (at least until the Buffalo game!), it seems to me that Tua is the...

This is a 27 minute video of a guy calling himself "QB School" analyzing Tua against Denver. My personal favorite comes around 12 minutes in....

Not the right thread, I guess, but really happy for Damien Williams....

Not half, not more than half, not nine out of ten, not 31 out of 32. No quarterback, ever, from the invention of the position down to the present...

MVPs tend to get hyped. Dan Marino got hyped in 1984, correctly. He was also characterized as unstoppable. Eventually, though, he got stopped....

Not to spoil the mood, but there’s just one person here being dumb, and it isn’t me. The original poster said who raised this question said...

Well, first, in 1984 Dan Marino was not 22 y/o. Getting bacK to 1983 — the Dolphins lost their first playoff game, to the Seahawks. —Jackson...

Same for me, when he was here I liked him, but I thought he was just OK, nothing really special, and I thought the people who thought the team was...

Derek Henry’s eyes are the size of goldfish

Un be LIEV a ble

It has a negative connotation for everyone. Try calling any NFL quarterback a “game manager” and see how he reacts. It’s absurd to say...

And, of course, their defense has played great, and Henry has made some great runs. It’s a team game. Doesn’t make RT a game manager.

It’s not, though. Suppose a QB throws four passes but they’re all 50+ yard TD passes. Makes no sense to call him a game manager. Or, less...

Lamar J had 36 TD passes and 1200 yards rushing this year. And he’s made lots of nice plays this game. He’s very young, he’s pressing...he’s...

The Baltimore Balldrops

WOOOOOOOOOOOOO

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/193212180chi.htm

Bronko Nagurski is smiling down from heaven. He threw that pass in the 1932 NFL championship

Been forever since the Titans had the ball

Beautiful run

Some AMAZING catches in this game

Correa delivers!

I have never seen an NFL player with a “IV” after his name before.

Good thing they’re playing at night.

DAYUM!!!

But how is QBR produced? Is someone watching each play and inputting data based on his assessment of what the QB (and others) did?

Congrats to RT and the Titans!

Well, if you really believe you're going to be set at your most important position for 15 years, yes, that would be a sensible thing to do, even...

Can you elaborate on this a little bit? I love the guy, but I know you're more knowledgeable than I am.

It's a minor point, but the offense was about the same both years -- probably a little better in 2001. The defense regressed, though. The team...

Anyway, I'm really happy for him. Putting everything else aside, I bet we all are. He always seemed like a good guy, I don't remember him ever...

I don't have a huge quarrel with the call. It's just that I assumed we were going to lose when we failed to burn any clock and kicked off with a...

If you kick seven field goals and score no touchdowns, you kind of deserve to lose. But man, that sucked.

First game I really remember is Super Bowl VIII (the Super Bowl after the 1973 season, when they went 12-2). Little did I suspect it would be all...

They'd show Burrow on the sideline in the fourth quarter and he almost looked bored. And then he'd come out and bring them right down the field....

Latest thing I seem to be reading is that they're not so much fixated on Tua as on having lots of picks (which they've definitely done). The...

I can't believe Richie Incognito is back...again. (Seemed like the right thread to mention that.)

This was pretty funny though. Apologies if it has been posted. [MEDIA]

Sort of OT, but when we were getting blown out in early games I could more or less shrug it off, but last night I got so mad after that blitz I...

Friend of mine watching (I'm not) says it's the worst football game he can remember.

Good post. I would just add that everyone knew at the time that Tannehill was a reach -- there was a slight chance he'd turn out to be really...

I don't. I really hope we're going through all this misery for someone genuinely outstanding, not just above average. There are multiple above...

Incidentally, there are four NFL teams without so much as a tie -- us, the Jets, the Bengals, and the Skins. That's got to be rare this far into...

I think you're right about Tebow. Lamar Jackson or (healthy) Cam Newton presumably could do it now, but I think they're perceived as too valuable...

Well, the Wildcat worked in part because it got two outstanding offensive players, Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams, on the field at the same time....

I think there had to be more to it than that, because it worked for so long, and in fact the whole NFL eventually moved toward that kind of...

You're right, I was sloppy. I should have said "this guy doesn't rate Montana quite as high as most would" -- my guess is most would put him top...

This guy would agree. In his list of top 100 QBs, Montana was #7, Brady #3, Marino #2, and Peyton #1. Montana was "only" #7 pretty much for the...

OK, hopefully this will be my last post on Daniel Kahneman! Thinking, Fast and Slow is a pop-science book with next to no math, so I don't know...

So football GMs can join stock pickers and political pundits as people who do no better than monkeys throwing darts at a board...of course that's...

Thanks, the cbrad statistics primer has been a nice upside to this horrible season. :-) Re the thread discussion about evaluating Rosen,...

That game was clearly an extreme outlier, and not anything to build a theory of football on. There can't be many games in the entire history of...

I'm not trying to weigh in on this discussion -- a couple of cherry-picked games don't prove anything. But anyone remember this one? Monday...

Well, sure there is, if you can average 8 yards per pass. And maybe even if you can't, because if you're averaging 4 you're going to have some...

Anyway, it seems like a no-brainer to play him and see how good he is. If by some miracle he's really good (very unlikely, I know) there's plenty...

Thanks, interesting. So when Matt Ryan (or Matt Ryan's rating) had a z-score of 2.5, was he the top QB in football? When his z-score was 1.3...

As awful as I expected this year to be, I figured at least there wouldn't be any more Tannehill arguments. Move on.

There's got to be a better way to spend 225 bucks, but this is looking like a pretty good jersey right now....

Yes, agree, Minkah hit the ball out. You're right, Rosen threw a couple of beautiful passes that were dropped. After that, though, there a...

Positives from that game...I thought you were going to make a blank post! But in fact there were a few positives, amazingly enough, so thanks for...

Don’t overthink Rosen — either the fact that we got him, or the fact that he’s not currently not starting for our terrible team. We got a...

But that's not the argument. The argument is "Alabama has superior talent at every position, therefore the QB will look like a god even if he's...

Well, apparently that is not the rule. But it should be, shouldn't it? Didn't it used to be?

Nice thread, thanks for starting. My first memory is the same as yours, except I was nine, it wasn't my birthday, and I was watching on a...

Yep, I see what you're saying about the O...but we still lost. This hurt.

Yeah the penalty on Jones was BS but we were busted at that point anyway.

We get rid of our best player to send a message, give up an 87 yard drive with the game on the line. Oh well.

Well, that's what we're all hoping. The Belichick way, no one is bigger than the team, everybody does their part. I'm really hoping Gase is the...

No favors this year? None at all? He ran for 122 yards against San Diego, 130 against Atlanta, but I guess you have to run for at least 200 or...

How do people know how long his knees are going to last? Have doctors gotten that much smarter all of a sudden? How do we know he's good and not...

Well, you know, Michael Douglas was really fond of Glenn Close until she boiled that bunny rabbit.

LOL. Seriously, was there no one else to make an example out of?

Last night for "color rush" the Raiders wore their 1970 white jerseys, with silver numbering instead of black. Worked for me. They abandoned the...

Hey, I owe you an apology...before the game you said you something like you didn't understand why people didn't respect our defense more...I said...

Well, if we give up 50 to the Falcons, then you'll know why.

Never thought I'd miss Joe Philbin. (OK, I don't really. But I can't believe the last few weeks.)

Exactly...3 first downs and six punts in the first half. We come out in the second half, incomplete, -5 run, incomplete. Next possession,...

Well, I'm not going to blame Ajayi, because a running back shouldn't have to deal with getting hit 3-5 yards deep in the backfield again and...

Sorry for the hyperbole, but that was like the 1976 Tampa Bay Bucs on offense, for anyone who's old enough to remember that. No one could block,...

Good thing we're not playing the patriots or it would be 35-0 right now. Ajayi is running hard with absolutely no blocking. Can't think of...

Not saying the play calling wasn't bad, but "my play calling was bad" is something Gase says a lot. I think he means it, but I also think he...

"The Dolphins are unsure what the issue is with Timmons, but one league source said he does not believe it is the early onset of CTE. 'No one has...

We should probably let Cutler play at least one game as a Dolphin before we start another QB board war.

So (if you ever see this) the larger lambda is, the less likely that the event is random?

6-10 Last year turns out to be a fluke (it's really hard to go 10-6 with a negative scoring differential like we did last year -- maybe cbrad...

Should have gotten a non-smoking quarterback then...

Good luck to everyone on this board who is, or might be, in Irma's path...

The most striking thing about the Dolphins last year is that they won 10 games despite a negative point differential. Guessing that is quite rare...

Thanks, sweet memory. Marino was coming back from what was basically the first major injury of his career. Really tough, durable player.

To be very simple-minded, I assume one reason the Dolphins picked up Cutler was that they did not think Moore could get through the entire season...

I'm curious how a coach (our head coach in particular) sees it. Would he rather have a guy who gets 100 or close to it every week or a 4 games...

"Kiss me, baby!" Sweet, in a goofy way.

Thanks, Fin D, appreciate you pulling a bunch of different reports and putting them in one spot.

Thanks, I appreciate the informative responses.

No. To the extent duplicative threads are a problem, merging is a superior solution. Speaking as someone who starts a thread about once a year,...

Just before halftime it was 20-6 and we had the ball on their eight-yard line. That ain't over. Moore got hit and fumbled. He also turned it...

But hope that's a harbinger for Phillips.

You may be right. Pretty upset ATM. Signing off this thread. Really proud of what the team accomplished and hopeful for next year.

No, it's bull****. The comment was "that's the moore we know and love." Which, for starters, is a thoroughly dickish thing to say about a guy...

You watched the last three games, I assume, so no explanation should be necessary.

Um, sorry, but that is utter bull****.

Thanks, very helpful.

Oh, dear.

Jesus, he can just stand there and wait for the hole.

Fumbles were a big issue for Moore in 2011.

Coaches can't really say, to hell with it, let's lose by 80.

A friend says the Broncos, Bills, Niners, Rams, and Chargers are all going to interview him. Clearly they need to spend some time on this message...

What scheme would have worked with our players?

I would have probably guessed six-seven wins...if you'd told me about our injuries I might have guessed five wins. Why was I so wrong? I...

Here's a suggestion. Fine Landry every time he gets one of those moronic penalties.

I had no expectation we would even be in the playoffs even before we started 1-4. But here we are. Hopefully we've got a good young coach and a...

You mean, at the very end of the game? He always reacts like that (which is to say, not at all) as far as I have noticed. I thought we might at...

Wait, five games averaging 500 yards and 6 TDs per game? Including playoffs against presumably good defenses? Um, that would be the greatest...

This post is really, really bad, Travis. If that's how you're going to describe Moore's game against the Bills, there aren't enough negative...

Man, this thread keeps getting crazier. No, I didn't say RT would have thrown 4 TDs against the Jets. I said we would have won. But given that...

Yeah, I would love to see Arnsparger in the Hall. The No-Name defense was legendary and I think the Killer B defense was great too. If Woodley...

That clip is hilarious, the field is collapsing behind the return man and he just jogs into the end zone and turns around. He's less excited than...

I think it's a ridiculous question (which makes it perfect for this thread, I guess). We beat the Jets by three TDs. Yeah, Tannehill could have...

This thread is such a disgrace. It should have been deleted. Instead it's at the top of the page. Just shows how screwed up this board is over...

Oh, yes, this. That ball was about a foot from starting the Bills at the 40. Could have been a very short, sad overtime for us...

I think Gase may be the first coach in this millennium who is less demonstrative on the sideline than Belichick.

What the hell is the matter with this message board?

Like Nagurski in 1932 to beat the Portsmouth Spartans.

A better, more consistent kicker.

No lo creo!!

Ugh, they are running well

Maybe just not in synch with backs?

I think Belichick is like Mickey Mantle used to be for MVP, you could give it to him every year, but that would be boring. Gase should definitely...

The big pass against the Cards also came on a blitz. I wonder if the Bills will try to fool MM with some fake blitzes.

Hey, thanks for posting that. I usually don't bother with press conferences, but that guy is fun to listen to.

That was brutal. Must feel weird (in a nice way) for Suh to come in from the outside completely unblocked.

Can't believe this thread is still going on. Imagine if the Dolphins actually had a quarterback controversy?

Yeah, I remembered us bringing in RT's college coach, but I had forgotten about Garrard. I recall drafting Tannehill with the #8 pick was...

Yeah, this. Matt Moore is a total enigma at this point. What can you say about a guy who has played a handful of meaningful snaps over the past...

I assume he's saying that Moore will throw it more than Morrall did. And yeah, that's a pretty safe prediction. That team used to throw it 10-15...

Yeah and Moore fell down making the handoff -- scary. Not excusing Williams, but I think he got hit in the backfield and instinct just took over....

Partly because that was Moore's only really significant play, and it had such a role in the final outcome, we are probably overanalyzing it. But...

Moore basically hasn't played in five years, which is an eternity in the NFL. Last time he saw significant action, though, he was decent....

You're right, it was the second possession that ended with the INT. Flacco gave it right back and we started the next possession on their 38....

Ok. They did give up

I don't want to lecture anyone. I just want to say -- first football game I remember is Super Bowl VIII. We scored TDs on our first two...

Ughhhhhhhhhhhh

I think Gase is a good coach, I think JA is a good back, I think RT is a better QB than I gave him credit for. I have more optimism than I have...

We had a lot of things go our way the last six wins...today nothing has. We are not as good as six straight wins would make you think, we are not...

I made a dumb post, but I got some smart answers.

Ha! Yeah, how could I forget. All that was coming to mind was the 2001 playoffs and the 2008 playoffs.

Have we ever beaten the ravens?

I understand the Vikings are down to 0/5 original starters on the OL...of course their offense has fallen apart too. I'm just wondering...

From the article: Now take your eyes off the ball. Watch right tackle Ja'Wuan James. He gives up on the play. James makes his initial block by...

I'm not really optimistic about the Chargers game, but I expect we will beat the Rams. Curious to see how Ajayi and the OL function on the road,...

No. Even if we were playing the worst run defense in football and Ajayi were OJ Simpson reincarnated (yes, I'm aware OJ isn't dead), his chances...

Incidentally, the team had an 86 passer rating, and Earl Morrall had a 91 rating, both tops in the league that year. Now 91 is just average....

If I hadn't been on here in a week, and the tailback had just had one of the best back to back performances in the history of professional...

Very sad. Not a lot of offense for us in Super Bowl XVII...Fulton kept us in the game.

In talking about RT, you and everyone else has said things that he or she might better not have said. I certainly have, and I am sorry for that....

who was it who was praising Grant to the skies -- Dolphin Dupree?

Yep, that was pointed out to me. Maybe I can get ThrowItToJu'Wuan turned into a sig.

Well, he's got at least the rest of this year, unless he starts playing REALLY badly, so don't write him off yet.

Ah, I understand now. I thought Bushrod was James and James was a receiver. Sorry for my dumb post.

I agree with pretty much all of this. Pass blocking was so bad last night. Unfortunately, so was the quarterback. Fifteen years ago I was a big...

Well, I see one receiver with his head already turned back towards the quarterback (just beyond the horribly beaten tackle) and a second receiver...

And that Sherman was coming with him was the only reason he was supposed to be worth a first round pick. So what's your point?

I can't speak to what was going on in the second quarter, or whether the Patriots cheat. I can tell you that the Dolphins had one loss at home...

Brain and arm were moribund also.

Tannehill was the victim of one of the worst drops I've ever seen. Jordan Cameron had a bad one too. I have zero interest in blaming Tannehill...

Or that a 90+ rating is just average nowadays, so having one doesn't mean you're good. Nineteen starting QBs had a rating of 90 or above last...

Wouldn't make much of a difference, based on performance so far: relative to the competition, they're both about average. On the other hand...

Not necessarily, no. Presumably the staff is taking the QB's abilities and experience into account. If they think telling him to get rid of the...

Not so fast. A quarterback affects how often he gets sacked, just like a batter affects how often he gets walked. Dan Marino is the classic...

In 2000 he was right in the middle re passer ratings. In 2001 he was slightly above average. He was an above-average runner, too. He was never...

From the article: The voting panel for our third annual NFL QB Tier Rankings consisted of 42 league insiders -- 10 general managers, five head...

Yeah but there has been some good insight on this thread. I've enjoyed reading it. Never really considered Jamar Fletcher as #1 bust but people...

Besides Dion Jordan and John Avery...John Bosa, Eric Kumerow, Yatil Green, and Jackie Shipp were all much bigger busts than Ted Ginn. We've had a...

A lot of these arguments come down to semantics. If "elite" means one of the top two QBs in the league, then I agree, Cam Newton isn't elite. I...

When was Kitna the talk of the league? Pretty sure the answer is "never." I checked out his player page. He was comeback player of the league...

Not really true. Looking up the passing for the 1950-51 Rams -- still have a strong case for the greatest offense ever. Someone once showed me...

I looked up the Lions' rush defense on Pro Football Reference from 2010-2014 (his years in Detroit) -- rank in total yardage allowed and yards per...

For purposes of Godwin's Law, Ryan Tannehill is the Adolf Hitler of thephins threads.

I'm almost sure the Seahawks beat Green Bay on a TD pass from Wilson in overtime. Poor Wilson, he doesn't realize that reputations are made in...

Yeah, that's occurred to everyone, including everyone on this message board, including the Tannehill fans (and I am not one of them). But RT is...

Who knows? But this article from a year ago is pretty interesting....

Jackson would be a solid hire, agree. I'm surprised there are people seriously arguing we should hire Coughlin. He's going to be 70 before the...

I don't see us using a high pick on a QB next year. That said, I'm not particularly excited that Tannehill threw for 4,000 yards two seasons in a...

This message board is like the last stages of a failing marriage. Every conversation winds up in the same place.

Thanks for the link. Amazing how little it varies from year to year -- the 1970s really stand out. I think he said offenses average 28 points...

I don't disagree with any of your overall points, but the fact is Morrall played out of his mind in 1968. He was the league MVP, and he deserved...

I can see everybody on your list except Madden, much as I like him. He had a very short career. He had a gaudy winning percentage, of course,...

Paul Brown is a sensible choice, of course, but far from a sure thing. As with many great coaches (including Shula) he ended far worse than he...

Everyone who ever posts anything like that should be forced to read this (or a dozen articles like it) until they have it memorized....

The Dolphins never put a complete team on the field for Marino...after 1984 I honestly never felt like we had a really talented roster under...

Kind of a moot point, but I really don't mind a draw on 3rd and 25, at least not in the first half. The odds of something bad happening are much...

"Potential ceiling" or "desperation," as you prefer. The Fins felt they really needed a quarterback and the best prospects (Luck and RGIII) were...

Well, raw for sure. I don't know that his ceiling was perceived as being all that high. The pick was perceived as a big reach by a team that was...

Makes me feel better...Trent Green isn't Drew Brees. But still, pretty damn dumb.

I've thought lots of dumb Dolphin thoughts, but I'll share just one. I was a big Fiedler homer...remember when we had a shot at Brees, and...

Thanks! Damn, there are some people on this thread who are very good at math.

Makes sense they would be hit by the adjustment, they both had issues with interceptions. Also, I think (unlike Marino and Namath, but like...

I definitely can't do it any time soon. I'm pretty sure a query can be configured at Pro Football Reference to give you the answer, but damned if...

Thanks for this instructive reply. I thought the impact of the adjustment is relatively modest, but maybe it's not. Marino has 7.3 career y/a...

We don't know if it's meaningless or not. Correlation doesn't prove causation, but it implies it -- it suggests that there's something worth...

Yes, I understand that he was not rating QBs by wins. He was trying to come up with a good methodology -- one that was better than passer rating,...

You've probably seen this: http://www.footballperspective.com/the-greatest-qb-of-all-time-v-part-ii-career-rankings/ You have to get down to...

I think the no-call on the Stills play was correct, and Tannehill's numbers weren't great anyway, but the larger point is that you're looking at...

Seriously? http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WelkWe00.htm I mean, I'm sorry he didn't completely light it up with Joey...

Yeah they're kind of like the 2000 Phins with Fiedler. (Well, Lamar Smith wasn't great, and we weren't stacked at WR...)

Night all.

Can't believe we couldn't down that

This board is so effed up. Everyone has to make their points about RT (while slanging the opposite faction) at all times.

Yes. It was a nice throw....to a double-covered receiver. Only a hopeless QB homer would call that a drop. So again. Don't embarrass yourself.

Ok see that 21? That was a drop.

Just stop it. Please. It's embarrassing.

Agree. Love how that dude writes.

Thanks for your post. Always good to get real intelligence from a fan of the other team. KeyFin is a good poster. I mostly lurk because I...

I got curious...the last time the Dolphins won 12 games in the regular season was 1990. 1990! Twenty-five years ago! Before that, three years...

You say something. Some one answers you, and then you say the exact same thing you said before, as if you hadn't read, or understood, the answer....

That is precisely and exactly what you said. "I just don't understand why when people wanted those two gone, got what they wanted, they are still...

This is a pointless thread. I'm surprised it has gone on for five pages. There is no contradiction between being glad that Philbin is gone...

Well, Campbell's an interim, and he wouldn't have had a prayer of being a head coach anywhere right now if Miami hadn't turned into a giant...

Well, at least one of the stories had lines like "A player said..." "Two players said..." Unless the author was lying, I don't think we can pin...

OK, your link just has that same silly poster you put up above...debunked at length in the post I put up. Do you have anything else to say that...

Here's a useful link (though it's nearly ten years old) about the "windfall." http://www.911myths.com/html/windfall.html

What do you mean, it "fortuitously" covered terrorism? There had been a major terrorist attack on the World Trade Center in 1993. Larry...

Yeah, you are probably right, but why don't teams roll out every play? Because it's cutting down half the field and making it harder for your QB...

Suh makes a play!

Speechless.

I don't disagree, but we are getting beaten at the line of scrimmage. Tough to call good plays when you're losing the line of scrimmage on...

Would be cool if the Fins fired everybody and called someone out of the crowd to coach the second half.

go for it

Beautiful throw under pressure.

Maybe at some point we will actually force a punt.

Laura Wright works out!

From England? Are you saying Joe Philbin walks on water? :lol:

Incidentally, the play by play is here. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201509200jax.htm We actually had two runs called...

Tannehill, Ryan [18] - Wake, Cameron [467] + Just to help get this over with. Did Brandon Fields ever win?

Super Bowl VIII, which I watched on a little black and white TV. First game I can really remember (I was 9). Earlier that year we had moved away...

Uh huh. Last year, we fired our OC because our offense died down the stretch. This year we might fire our DC because our defense collapsed down...

A gut-punch win.

Uh, welcome, I guess.

My only complaint is I can't see the %#@^ game.

Boomer, I remember you very well. Pleasure to read your keen (and well-written! "climbing the pocket" "wet ankles") insights once again.

In 2000, Lamar Smith had 309 carries (honestly thought it was more) and 1139 yards (3.7 per carry). The next year, he had 313 carries, 968 yards...

In 2000 we beat the Colts in OT (and Lamar Smith had 50 carries and over 200 yards; Fiedler threw 3(?) picks in the first half; Peyton and...

Yeah, probably. But he inherited an amazing defense and Fiedler and Lamar Smith were fairly effective in 2000. Fiedler had his best year in...

Sorry, I am way late on this. In 1977, NFL scoring reached a modern low. Some websites call it the football deadball era. The 1978 rules...

Probably as many as he won under the rules in effect during his career. Marino, Fouts et al. were the beneficiaries of the 1978 rules changes...

Fire the coach. Sit Tannehill. WE ARE DONE.

RT is so bad...please. When we score it is despite him.

Just stop it. Tannehill sucked. He wasn't the only one, but he sucked. Stop trying to deny what anyone can see.

If Manuel had been decent and they'd gone for it a few times Buffalo would have scored 50.

WTF makes anyone think Dan Marino has anything to offer as a talent evaluator? It's just another lame PR move.

Our offensive line last year was historically bad. Not hard to be better. We've sure upgraded at tackle, but the interior still looks like a...

Guess who had the longest TD run for the Dolphins in 1972? Earl Morrall, that's who!...

What made Dan Marino special was his right arm, not his brain. His right arm isn't going to help him in a front office.

Even assuming all that is true, the media narrative will just change from "Richie Incognito is a racist psychopath" to "the NFL's toxic culture...

Meanwhile, the Bengals fans also think the officials are ripping them off. http://boards.bengals.com/showthread.php?t=117474

Second half: 3 plays, 3 yards, punt 4 plays 23 yards punt 4 plays 15 yards punt

Did any of the people flaming Cote read the article? He spends more than half of it saying that fans were too giddy about the Dolphins when...

Uh-oh...

OT, but I still do a double take every time I click on a link and see those new uniforms. I hope I won't always hate them.

Ryan was sacked on 3.3 percent of dropbacks when not blitzed, and 11.1 percent of dropbacks when blitzed. That kind of jumped off the page for...

20 carries, 23 yards. That needs to improve massively or we are in for a miserable season. Didn't expect OL to be that awful. Very impressed...

Yep. OL beyond awful in this game.

Excited about today. Go Fins!

Getting way off topic, but why do you think so? You seem to know a lot about bball (not being sarcastic).

I agree with this. I like Simmons; he is an amazing story in a way. He started out as an early sports blogger and he's gradually turned himself...

Uh, no. They gave up on him because they thought he was no good....

Good thread...I was pretty down after reading Barnwell's article, but some posters had some pretty good ripostes. Still a skeptic, but a slightly...

7-9

Here's the complete list of QBs who have gone over 5,000. Not a long list. (Marino was the only one who did it before this century.)...

You ain't kidding! Here's a quote from a disgruntled Eagles fan: A 25 year old interior lineman in the first round made no sense. He looked...

Super Bowl VIII. I was just a little kid, that was the first game I can remember. Watched it on a little black and white set. I had just moved...

Luck and RGIII were also universally considered more talented than Weeden and Tannehill. That's why they were drafted higher. Greater talent is...

If 28-7 is a pounding, I guess we got vulcanized.

Bingo. That drive was so depressing.

Yep. Not going to argue with you. That was truly awful. But for home losses...today is tough to top.

I agree, but at least that was on the road against a good team.

Of course not. We just played the worst home game for the Dolphins since 1968. Maybe ever, since the 1968 blowout (48-3) was against the Chiefs,...

Yes, I assume this is it, 48-3 to the Chiefs. Rick Norton threw three picks, Griese had two....

Yeah, really. We just suffered one of the worst beatings in the history of the Miami Dolphins, going right back to 1966. Who cares where we are...

Right, because Mike Sherman doesn't know anything about passing, hates success, hates the Dolphins, hates Tannehill and wants us all to fail.

Wow, 37-3 to the Titans at HOME. One of the very worst games in the history of the franchise.

Nope. I swear they could throw a flag on him every single third down.

Been a Dolphins fan since the 70s. Trying to think of a game in which they looked this bad in all phases. 62-7 against Jax, obviously. Not many...

Another dreadful defeat for the 0-8 Dolphins...wait, you mean we're not 0-8? Maybe some of you guys should come in off the ledge. Yeah, this was...

Lighten up, people. Can't imagine what this thread would be like if we were losing.

It's funny, I've often seen people say we should disregard preseason performance in favor of regular season play but this is the first time I've...

Agree, but Reggie was terrible too. It was a joint effort.

Rams had 12 penalties for 94 yards, compared to 5-40 for us. Had a lot to do with us winning the game.

David Garrard's career passing rating is 85.8. That is not one of the highest career ratings in NFL history by any stretch....

Neither Moore nor Smith is very good. Moore is cheaper. So, let's keep him, draft a good QB and hope for better things next year.

I don't see us finishing 7-9, to be honest. But we will see. Agree with you that we don't get a franchise QB with that kind of record.

Where do you see us winding up, though? Won't we still be drafting pretty high?

A touchdown is acceptable, however.

I have no problem with three rushes and a FG here.

Interesting discussion. But man, it's depressing that this is what we're reduced to talking about.

Well, if you suck, I'd rather you don't take the job anyway.

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I watched the play on the field, thank you, and he had some bad moments out there. He looked terrible from the Texans' 15 late with the score...

Well, the negative narrative was that the team collapsed at the end of last year and the players realized during the offseason that the ownership...

Have we ever given up 500 yards passing before?

well, that explains why we kicked the field goal that other time.

wow, 440 yards for the pats

should have gone for td

Yeah, not much to add to that. Compared to players of a generation or more ago, today's players are much better paid because they're getting a...

Growing up in Coral Gables. First game I can remember watching is Super Bowl VIII, right after we left Florida and moved to Gaithersburg MD. As...

What raises my eyebrows is that someone who is 6'3" and 305 pounds is considered small.

Hope you're right. I miss the days when the NFL was a running league. And the days when the Phins won Super Bowls...

You said it all. I was sort of interested in Orton, but if he is staying put there really isn't any other FA I want. Re other posts in this...

I'm shocked. Not good. Also, I can't say your post made me want to "pump my fist." More like it made me want to hang my head and cry. I...

Henne's completion percentage Just because people bring up Henne's completion percentage as a positive...it's 61.4%, which tied him for 16th in...

Yeah, you're right. Thanks for the thread, and being one of the best posters around.

Putting numbers in the context of a player's time just makes the numbers meaningful. In 1987, Jim Kelly was a pretty good passer, top third in...

Padre, Pro Football Reference also lists league averages in various categories. Here are the year-by-year figures for passing....

Posts like this are juvenile and stupid. No one thinks this way. Don't make posts like this unless you want the board to be one big flamewar.

I'm too frustrated to see straight. Should take some time off. I'm sure Todd is great, but all I ever see from him is blind & unrelenting Henne...

Are you kidding me? Henne is raising Hartline's game? Is there an ignore feature on this board?

Everything Henne does every week supports my posts. Henne could throw for 50 yards in a game and you'd still be supporting him. Oops, my...

Please stop wasting my time with bull****. Chad Henne is the 26th-rated QB in the NFL. There are 32 teams. You do not have to be spoiled by Dan...

I have zero interest in Carson Palmer...Henne looks awful, until you try to replace him. Sigh.

Equally ****ty both times. Case closed, indeed.

I know the QBR formula and I think it's very useful and a good measure of how the passing game is going -- OVER A SEASON. Not over a game. In...

General observation: QBR for a single game is meaningless. It basically measures the ratio of TD passes to interceptions. I wish they wouldn't...

I'm down on Henne because he's a terrible QB, though I haven't completely given up on him. Is this a trick question? How bad does a QB have...

What an awesome, awesome job by the D. I am standing up in my room and cheering these guys.

I think spiking should be called intentional grounding.

One first down. One!

wow, great blitz pickup and Sanchez blew it.

I swear our offense wasn't this bad in 2007

the horror, the horror

Not another 95 yard drive please

Boy, this game is awful. Losing could hardly feel worse.

Why not both?

No. Unless you're killing the clock or something, drives that end in field goals are not great drives. We've had way too many not-great drives...

????

Just because Thigpen is terrible doesn't mean Henne is good. This ought to be too obvious to need saying.

I mentioned this to someone and he pointed out that Michael Jordan got cut in high school. So, there's that.

Thanks for all the work. That was a great read.

Nice story. But I can't believe our starting quarterback lost the QB job his senior year of high school.

Thanks, look forward to reading it.

Thanks a lot, Samphin. Whether you like Henne or not, whether you think he's the future or not, we're better off if he's able to play in a week...

The biggest problem with the Wildcat is that Ronnie Brown can't throw. Does it make sense to try to create a wildcat with Thigpen at tailback and...

You may be thinking of Fabius, who refused open battle with Hannibal. The Romans grew tired of this, however, and replaced Fabius with a consul...

Henne is getting benched because he isn't playing well. He's not just playing average to poor in the losses; he's playing average to poor in the...

Of course we will have to see what happens...but I assume this means that the Dolphins think Henne doesn't have it, and is not in their future...

I think the bolded part is pretty much it. Certainly not what I was saying at the time, but we wasted the last few years of a great defense, not...

No, it was on Henne too, and I am sure there are other candidates. A 16-point defeat usually has more than one cause.

I think Pennington is a better QB than Henne, mostly because he's more accurate and smarter on the field. But of course Pennington isn't the...

The first INT was horrible, though the D and the Ravens kicker bailed us out. The last two came after it was all over. Point is, he just looked...

By the way, what the hell is going on in that animated gif in your signature? Sorry, I'm sure you've already explained a million times.

Smartest post of the evening.

The end. It was a 50/50 at best...followed by 50/50 for the 2-pointer...followed by 50/50 for OT. We lost before the last drive. We lost on...

Sanchez 15-28 256 3 TDs Shut up about Henning.

Bottom line -- our defense just didn't get it done this game. They're the reason we were 2-0 coming in. But they are also the reason we are 2-1...

Never mind, we're getting it back. should be decent field position.

Not a catch. %W%@^.

A true crisis! C'mon, you gotta plan better than that.

you and me both

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Could have been a big gainer...amazing play by KD.

I hated the call, by the way. We were running so well, third and short -- hand it off! Shows what I know.

Little love for Henning?

Yeah, I'll defend Henning. I'm pretty sure he didn't commit a 15-yard penalty.

Had no idea they'd finally made the crackback illegal. Wide receivers used to make a living off that block.

I swear, so many times a team has a great week of practice and gets crushed. If I was a betting man and I heard a team had a great week of...

Tim -- if this thread is still live -- one curious trend for the first two weeks is the offense looking very good at the beginning of the game but...

I'm shocked. Happy, but shocked. I wrote him off long ago.

lol!

Still can't believe we picked him...in the second round.

Great interview. Thanks for posting this. (I guess that's what the thank you button is for, but it's the off-season so we don't have to worry...

Wow, I forgot about that.

Gotta root for the Saints so that Kim Kardashian can become an honest woman.

I hate the guy, but...yeah. The streak is incredible.

Nope, you're right. That was a scary moment when I saw most of the Pittsburgh sideline calling for help.

It's hard to see where Pennington could wind up. If you have serious playoff aspirations you can't really bring him in as a starter, because he's...

I think people are frustrated with how the season ended. That's my excuse when I lose it. :tantrum:

Henne had 13 interceptions in 13 games. Not something you'll put on the first line of your QB resume, but not the stuff of which machines are...

Yeah, but I am tired of failed comebacks. I have to say, I'm glad we are not in the playoffs. Maybe we can get it together next year.

...and the clock would have run down further, so I don't see your point. Whatever, doesn't matter. Defense totally collapsed. Pittsburgh had the...

We can't stop them. so it doesn't matter when you take your ^@$&#% timeouts.

...and our defense falls apart.

Nice things happen when you can pass.

27-10. Welcome to the last two weeks, except this time it's the fourth quarter.

Ike Taylor may be a thug, but White was close to the first down when Taylor hit him.

Uh oh

oy gevalt

Most surprising thing to me is that Torbor is making $3.6 million (or has a $3.6 million cap number, I should say). I am not a TGJr. fan, but it...