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I stopped reading when he admitted he was a Pats fan.
More and more, I find myself wanting to get incognito's jersey. I think I'm just going to have to take that plunge.
No, it would be the Jets! Ask Heath Evans.
What if Jordan is just that good? He has been working with Wake.
You watch, we cut Egnew, Pats sign him. Then he becomes a pro bowl TE for them for the next 10 years.
That's just it though, these are his former teammates/friends, sticking up for a former teammate and friend who is up for a very serious trial....
I was just poking some fun in, I honestly could care less about his "opinion" since I care more about what happens on the field. Not what some guy...
Don't forget after we let him go, Pats signed him and he ran for 84 yards on 17 carried against us. That was his career high point. So he is still...
Jake Long first overall in 2008, Pouncey 15th overall , Martin 42nd overall. That's three top draft picks on the line, center and both tackles....
Wasn't paying attention? I know all about the systems changing, the coaches changing, parcells leaving. What shocked me was how late we waited to...
Throwing picks at the oline, yes I said that, do you even know what I meant by it? I meant if you keep drafting oline, and your oline like ours...
Last years draft shocked me honestly. Was happy to see us go qb. After Tannehill I liked Miller pick. I still think we need 2-3 more playmakers,...
If Lane Johnson falls to #12 I would pick him. What I am trying to say is you need to mix it up, we need more then just lineman drafted high....
I think you need to reread what I said, nowhere in there did I say draft down to tight end and slot reciever with top picks. I said you need...
It is when you keep drafting offensive lineman and the line still needs them. You can't keep throwing pics at it and avoiding playmakers....
If he is there at 12 sure, moving up for him? No, we have more holes that need to be filled. What if we are moving up for a DL?
If I was in charge of fan experience I would try to get passed something that randomly selects 5-10 seats per home game, the person in seat wins a...
Not sure on the NBA, I'm Canadian, so I don't follow basketball very heavily.
It's not a big deal, the NHL already does this.
I could have sworn I heard Philbin say BPA! If we trade up for a tackle that would just piss me off, where has drafting all these high draft...
I still want Austin or Patterson at 12. I want weapons that make us tough to defend.
Helmet rule going by NFL network had the Bengals as the ones who voted against it. Tuck rule had the Pats obviously and Steelers cause they...
Exactly, that is why he wants to come to a big spending team. He wants to be paid like an every down player, but he can't stop the run to save his...
He is using us and this spending spree to drive his price up, he doesn't want to come here. He wants to stay in Denver with as much money as he...
I would rather have Patterson over Austin, but I would be ok with either! Wish we could have both lol.
I don't care how much he can bench, that doesn't overly help you fight thru tight coverage for a football. I think he can take shots just fine, I...
How many 5'8" 174lb wr's have had all pro careers in the nfl? People are bigger and faster now, I just think he will struggle fighting for the...
I doubt any of them will be on the roster at start of season. Long will be a ram today I bet.
That's what scares me also with him, he is electric but that size worries me.
Or he wanted to be wined and dined by a team and eat some free BBQ!!
Everyone here thinks it's Austin Ireland wants, what if that is what he wants people to think? If we are onto it this early, other people would...
This place is going to implode if Austin isn't selected, so many pinning their hopes on him being drafted. Setting yourselves up for a massive let...
Philbin just showed them who the Leadership council really is!
Sleeping probably, waiting for the alarm to go off to start the whining!
Ireland with a reacharound!
I think thats an end around, cause he caught the ball then ran around the other end into the ENDzone!
Flipping burgers, but that is not our issue when his speed leaves. That is why it's probably only a 5 year deal. Relax some, let it play out, you...
Cut Keller some slack, he has Sanchez throwing the ball.
Maybe he arrives in Miami once his number lowers some, who knows. Jennings that is.
We will find out now won't we?
Not if his contract demands were serious, he is old and injury prone. Hard to pay him like that. He will sign once market sets for him and he...
Didnt Rice make a living on Slant routes? Yes before you say he ran all routes I know that. The slant was his bread and butter.
I myself know that fans will expect the ball to be fed to him because of the contract. I think he was payed for what he can do, he does it very...
I agree it has a massive hole, but we have thrown 3 high picks at it over the past few years and still have crap to show for it. Maybe we need to...
Because eventually you need to quit drafting Oline in the first round and actually get some playmakers. It's not like we cant go Oline later on in...
I am not sold on any pass rushers in this draft that would be around at 12, we dont need to select a right tackle at 12. Corner sure, safety?...
I like Austin, but his size in the nfl with nfl corners covering him worries me. Not sure he has the size str to catch contested balls, but once...
So we go Patterson at 12 if he is there? Make this Offense very dangerous? Since he has size and speed.
How good is Cook? I heard he was a guy who can't seem to put his game together, truth to that?
No we need CB's who can play zone, not look like they are lost on the field.
I would be all for it, if he would accept 8m per or less. No corner is worth 10m+ imo. He would get to stick it to the jets twice a year.
Wish him luck, we need to move on from him though. Maybe Clay takes on bigger role, or someone else gets drafted/signed or steps up.
If we get Wallace, I would so go Patterson/Austin/Eifert in the first round, anyone of those 3 would be good.
Patterson Wallace Hartline That would be a good 3 man punch, maybe we trade back into first round for Tyler Eifert? I know, too much madden. I...
Listen, if you so wanted to see the game end in a hail mary, then you should have called the 49ers and told Ginn to take a knee right when he...
Not sure if it has been mentioned, but how many of our players knew this offense before the season started? 1? We had a rookie QB, who at times...
CJ2k run for 150 since we have issues with speed to the edge? This game won't be as easy as I want it to be.
That's the thing about Marshall, he wanted the offense to go thru him. The only problem with that was he was so here and there. He dropped way too...
While we're at the reread portion of this topic, how about you reread what I said about Marshall not being in the pressure spotlight like he was...
It wouldn't help our record at all having Marshall. Look at what the second leading receiver on the bears is doing. They are winning due to that...
I would love another shot at Houston, in the AFC Championship game. That would be a perfect place for us to get our first win over them!!!
As our lack of running game has shown. Teams are selling out to stop the running game, since we still are not amazing passing.
If we run the ball well, we can hang with any team regardless of the firepower they have. We just need some timely stops on D. Run ball and slow...
Brandon would have dropped that, you all know it!!
I still don't think that was a catch and fumble. Coulda sworn you have to make a football move for it to be a catch, he went to tuck it and...
My Roomy is a Philly fan, so I have seen them play this year. They do not look like a good team, Vick is a turnover machine.
I hope DT stays on the bench unless he is needed to block. Guy has fumbled it twice in 22 carries, everytime he touches the ball i wait for another.
We lost cause the Jets scored 23, we scored 20. Both teams left a lot of stuff on the field. I hate to say it though, we are about as good as the...
I hate to say it, but even if Vontae was still here, WR now have a way to get into his head. Everytime someone catches a ball on the guy he is...
That was the biggest half arsed cut block I have ever seen, Revis saw him, went to make a cut, that's when it looked like he got the injury. After...
I so hope they have Revis on Hartline, cause I think Bess can own Cromartie.
Can learn things about all the above even in a loss. But they play these games for a reason. Could be worse, we could have the Jets offense.
I myself could care less if Vontae was mature or not. Part that bothers me is it did in fact affect his performance on the field. Deion might have...
Rudy?
You might want to watch that again, unless Sanchez was traded to Tampa!
That is a lot of yards for 4 quarters!!!
Talent is there, he wouldn't have gotten as far as he has without it. Question is, can he harness his talent and take it up a notch like the other...
And that is my point, many here figured he would want 5m per. I bet he would have come back for 2 mil. He wanted to win, so he took a small one...
I don't want him to manage the game, that's what they been trying with him for the past few years. I want them to release the handcuffs and let...
Ronnie Brown signed what a 1 year, 1 million dollar deal? Some here said he was looking for a payday. The guy is all heart and wants to win, money...
After this performance, i sure hope fans at practice get a Henne chant going in support of him. Was a great 2 quarters for him and the team, the...
Looked to me like it hit him in the chin after going thru his hands, was right in the middle of his body and not behind him much at all. He might...
He can't be Kyle Orton either, Chad Henne is Chad Henne. He has one last shot to prove himself, it's sink or swim time.
Dan Marino sure has cast one massive shadow over the QB position on this team. So much so that everyone expects each QB we get to be the second...
The bolded part is what we would need to find out before drafting him, if we feel he wouldn't do the work or be capable of it, then pass.
Nah, he is already more important to the Packers then Farve. He just did what Farve hasn't done, won a Superbowl MVP award.
Well Sean yeah, Vontae i dont think dropped very many since he wasn't throw at a whole lot. But Jason Allen, and Sean Smith dropped a ton. They...
Always gone by the name Gitrdone. Define knew? Been here and on that other board for years, but name has always been spelled this way.
Embarrassed? Nah more like he is laughing all the way to the bank. He basically took a desperate organizations money to turn them around, and left...
You must be his agent then, how much is RB asking for? I sure haven't heard any numbers. All I have seen from him is a guy who would like to be...
Just wanted to add that the DL player = Cameron Wake.
I think he should be fired and banned from the NFL, stuff like this hurts the integrity of the sport. Bad Sportsmanship has no business being in...
Neither of our Running Backs has been all that impressive. But i don't feel thats due to them at all. I feel it's the OC and the fact they just...
That will earn some respect in the locker room for him. Hopefully they play better for him next week.
Yeah Hartline did play good. That one pass to Bess i thought it had Hospital visit all over it.
Oh i agree fully, but he just had him stand like a statue. Do you also notice the Running backs dont really run routes, they just run out into the...
Basically everyone involved with the offense layed a giant egg!
That it was, and once they noticed we couldn't block and wouldn't run, that stacked box became the box at which extra players came from against...
No what people are missing, is running the football is easier to block for then the pass is. Line up, put a helmet on the guy across from you and...
Yup, Dez wants to be great, he also wants to prove everyone wrong.
The play wasn't really needed. Could have just ran up the gut, something we use to be able to do. Henning likes to run plays that if they fail,...
What Hospital is he staying at atm?
I just figured we needed to get more basic, it's not like the Bears were running away with the game, our D kept us in it. If lining up and running...
I figured right when that happened, that Sparano would have said to the offense. "Marshall is out, we now have to man up and shove the ball down...
Maybe because he is handing it to a player who barely receives them? It's not like he had a ton of reps on the play, he had two days of reps with...
It was a bad call, you have a QB who just started getting reps with the starters in a short week. You need to take as much of the risk of error...
No but its his fault for calling the play, it's a high risk play with a QB not use to running things. The guy didn't get reps till this week. A...
I mean thats funny, cause Ronnie gained positive yardage every touch he had. Not my fault our OC ran a reverse that totally and utterly failed....
I agree with this, or at least spread them out and run out of the 4wr set. Something different, we are so predictable.
You can give up 100 yards a game and still allow low ypc. I remember years ago watching Eddie george run for over 100 yards on a 3.3 average lol....
Penalties was on pass plays also, not just runs.
That wasn't really a voice of reason, that was something everyone knows. I would have rathered us run the ball 3 times and had a 3 and out, then...
You still going on about the 2nd ranked run defense? I mean the Ravens had a top 5 run D, and we ran well against them until WE stopped it, not...
Its funny how our passing game keeps putting us in those situations. I remember a team that use to run 90% of the time on first down. Now we just...
Did i mention anything about winning? Nope. Just said we need to run the ball to even have a chance, what we have done for 10 weeks is not getting...
That man is a beast.
I say BS, using the injuries as an excuse is not a good enough reason in my book. These players are all in the NFL for a reason. Not to mention...
Yeah but we all know Vick is only fast cause he had to catch Dogs... yeah yeah, i said it.
WE never even tried, trying would imply we at least had 15 or more attempts from the Running backs. But no, we try to throw the ball with our 3rd...
[Tony Sparano voice]Yeah cause like ah yeah we kept track of Ronnie and Ricky's play count and figured we would get Cobbs in there to keep them...
Why not? The Ravens allowed 2.7 yards per rush when we faced them, but Ronnie averaged 6.6 against them. Wanna know how the Ravens stopped our...
It's just like life, if you don't take chances, things will just stay the same. You just gotta reach out there for it. Playing it safe means being...
It's not that they have sucked. It's that when they do get going, our coaching staff takes them out of the game to not "overuse" them. Like when...
Thats it, fire Tony, fire Henning. You don't play Cobbs with both Ricky and Ronnie in front of him on the depth chart and neither of them getting...
Ronnie needs to get on the phone with Henning and say "give me the damn ball!"
I expected Ronnie Brown to have more then 2 carries at halftime. Even more so when they are only ahead by 6. Our coaches need a kick in the pants.
Today yes, what about the other 9 weeks? A pattern is forming, and obviously Henne was not the whole issue. PA on 3rd and long? Really? I think...
Looks like our issue is not Henne, seems it's Henning.
Nope, he is just a Pats player in a Titans uniform. So he wouldn't even try for us.
That will never happen as long as he is a Dolphin. I mean he averaged 6.6 yards per carry against a defense who allows 2.7 ypc. Yet we only gave...
Going by that, should Sparano not freeze himself and Henning out? Since they are not performing either.
Second drive? Not running Ronnie. Third drive? See second. Fourth drive see Second also. Henne will not win a game on his arm, we need to slow...
They did execute, hence the 6 runs for 45 yards and a TD. Then he got 3 more carries over the course of the game. Thats the OC not executing what...
Thing is, if you take this past game vs the Ravens as an example. If you have a running back who has 6 carries for 45 yards and a TD on the first...
I thought we abandoned the run after the first drive. Since what Ronnie finished with 9 carries? 6 on the first drive. How can you have a Running...
Worst part is, they always seem to be in the endzone.
I doubt that very much, they seemed to be in a hurry to give Pitts a TD. Well at least one ref was.
It does look like he tried to put the forehead of his helmet into the middle back of Bess. That could just be due to the speed of the game though,...
Probably because the title usually has to do with the content that follows. But this was one of those Pitt Should Win followed by the person...
How well we play is always dictated by our opponents, if they play like crap so do we, if they play great, so do we. Only our special teams has...
But he also had way more shoulder then head into the chest of Jackson. I doubt he was trying to hit him with his head, looked like he wanted to...
It's because he threw it the drive before and saw the results. Doing it a second time woulda looked real bad on him.
I hope not, but in the case that he is, I hope we see Micah Johnson.
He must have read my email to him!
We can't, we play to our opponents. If they play great so do we, if they play like crap, so do we. Only our special teams doesn't play to our...
We show our blitzes way too early.
Looks like Carpenter whiffed another block on special teams. And could you telegraph the run to the outside anymore? It's two yards, up the gut.
Because just like us, Vegas has no idea if our special teams will show up.
He was in the NE game, they just kept kicking deep into the endzone and i think they kicked one out of the endzone also.
Actually some of those throws were not at him, he just came off his guy to make the tackle. Well i know the one to Welker for sure he wasn't...
Sorry but i want more then that, Henne has a better chance to deliver it. We all know what Penny can do.
Only problem with this thought, is that right when Pennington comes into the game. The field gets shorter, defenders don't have to worry about...
We need to start putting Davis on the other teams #1 and let him shadow that WR all game long. Make them beat us with other weapons. But on a side...
Only thing i have seen with Edwards and release, is the fact he released a statement about his arrest. Other then that, nothing.
I would probably chalk that more up to the fact they need to hit on those plays. You can't keep missing on things. So it's prob frustrating in...
Was prob JT.
The Ricky fumble was in a really bad spot, the Ronnie fumble i am shocked we didn't use playaction. Since Minny knew all we would want to do is...
Good idea, lets play Wake at TE. I know, I know, you didn't say that.
And thats why Ronnie should be in there. Well in that situation.
Um R. Brown?
JA giveith and takeith away.
VD was back in for that play.
Few RB's in the NFL can take that yard without everyone holding their blocks. The guy tackled Ronnie at his feet, if he broke that he was gone....
It is on, remove your blinders please.
Um no.
Lots of RB's get caught like that, quit acting like its only Ronnie. I have seen Peterson get caught like that, it happens.
If we have to have him out of the game to win, then we are not going anywhere this season. We need to win with the other teams best coming at us.
I want him in the game. The less excuses they have, the better.
Might not be far in the future either.
Johnson starting next to Dansby?
Meh Just tell Davis to shadow him. That avoids Allen covering him.
Great so Sanchez pitches, and Turner catches. I see a movie license for those two.
Just Trade SS to the Jets with our 1st overall for Revis. They would lose a guy that they prob won't be able to sign and we get a good CB. I mean...
More like 80-20, as in 80% chance for White to fail, 20% for him to succeed. It's not like he predicted much, he just told us the most obvious...
I hope Micah Johnson makes it also.
That's a good thing, can't get a holding call using your face. :pointlol:
Partially because Davis can follow a WR anywhere he lines up. Smith can't, so it's easier to move someone away from Smith. Hence another reason...
I was reading in a fantasy draft book that he was a top 5 fantasy RB till he went down with injury. So basically, if he actually stays healthy,...
Why? All it means is 8 5 in spanish. That's Eight Five, not Eighty Five. Eighty Five would be ochenta y cinco. And that would look weird on a...
Allen with the FF nice. Love that kid on special teams.
Nah i checked it out cause i was going to get it. But when i looked further into it, it was USA only.
It only offers me the whole season for 279.99 but i only want preseason. Nevermind only available in the United States.
Nice, Armando with the burn!
I doubt he pinched one on the floor, prob just left them a non flushed toilet with a nasty stinker in it.
Got you by the balls!!
Also remember, we were not running the pressure defense during a preseason game.
I liked what i saw from him. Hope he continues to improve. The roughing the passer was a joke penalty. This is football, not badminton.
1. It was against our vanilla defense, we were showing nothing in a preseason game. That is not how the defense will operate. 2. Badly thrown,...
First live Dolphins game yes. I have been to a Bills VS Jets game with my friend a few years ago :sad:
On Monday Oct 4th i get to watch the Miami Dolphins VS the New England Patriots at Sun Life Stadium. I can't wait, so excited. I will be sitting...
Speaking of flying down to Florida to see a game, i get to finally do so. Up till now i have only been to Buffalo, but now i finally get to see my...
You sure? Reports are he is done for the year? I'm confused lol.
I just feel it's the way he runs, to change his fumbling issue would make him less of a game breaker. Since ball security would slow him down. Be...
You can fix his fumbling issues? Cause he sure can't, nor can his RB coach. He has had this problem since coming into the league, it's his style...
He said WHAT is, not WHEN is. Lots of running backs in the league get injured. AP is a game changer for both teams if you watch him. He runs and...
Thanks for that Padre! :up:
Says i am from an area where its not available also, so looks like us Canadian boys lose out.
Doesn't matter what anything means, all that matters is what can be proven. And in this case, they can't prove he was drinking, or even the driver...
W - Buffalo W - Minnesota W - NYJ L - New England BYE L - Green Bay W - Pittsburgh W - Cincinnati L - Baltimore L - Tennessee W -...
Maybe it's just me, but from watching Highlights of him, his change of direction seems very slow. Most NFL rb's can cut real quick and change...
It will make him even better, since sex won't get in the way now. :lol:
On the Bench!
Talking about if we are a contender in the East or not.
Last time he was on the Island, Revis didn't have to worry about a running game.
Revis will need all those guys with him to cover Marshall. :tongue2:
Nor could the Dolphins D. If the Fins had the Jets D last year, our offense would have been even better. We could move the ball when we needed to,...
Actually, the Jets went deep into the playoffs last season. Sanchez went for the ride. Would he have gone that far without the number 1 defense...
Dansby will be on fins cam on NFL networks total access tonight at 7pm est.
Actually no, he has a Marshall jersey! :tongue2:
Cam Wake will give him #91, then Wake will take #99.
If Bryant makes it to 28, do we take him? Since we pick 12 picks later?
I love how you keep thinking he will instantly refuse a contract from us like he wants to break the bank. He is smarter then that. I am pretty...
While i don't agree with that, he did have an ok year. He supposedly had great ball skills, but outside of preseason i didn't see any signs of...
Only problem i have with CJ, is our oline doesn't benefit his running style. He would be better suited in a zone blocking offense. In fact, he has...
E.T. would make our team elite, cause we could prob trade down a few spots and still be able to pick him. E.T. as in Earl Thomas.
Bess was not consistently good last year, fumble prone last year. He had a bad stretch of games also, he was just thrown to far more often. But...
And more Benjamin's then what they can offer. I mean for the guy to go to a team that he hates, with fans that he hates. They will need to be able...
He can get #15 easily when Bess is traded for draft picks! On a more serious note, number 88 would be nice for him.
He can block, he is not the best blocking WR in the draft, but he can block. He will also help by other teams needing to move a safety out of the box.
He would help us run the ball also.
Actually, if E.T. or Dez Bryant were there at #12 you pick the BPA. You don't reach for an OLB that you could still draft if you traded down....
I found this below, other then it all i found was how fast he could run the 40 after each line of cocaine. This is for Irvin....
So you have a draft guru title, yet say he tackles like Deion sanders? Wow, i have never seen Sanders lower a shoulder into someone. Have you even...
Ricky Williams never smoked pot, it was catnip!
I have yet to see a safety fight his way thru blockers, i have seen them run around them really fast. Most DB's get run over by blockers. Only...
I think it was 4.37 still darn fast though.
I don't care what he runs the 40 in, he knows how to get open.
Earl Thomas 5'10" 208 Ed Reed 5'11" 200 Bob Sanders 5'8" 208 Antoine Bethea 5'11" 203 LaRon Landry 6'0" 210 Ryan Clark 5'11" 205 Troy...
WR, S, OLB hopefully all in the mix, I wouldn't be shocked based on how things go if Mcclain was an option still. I mean could Crowder move...
Thing is, Ronnie can be split out wide also. And can you count how many times he has been used that way? Why draft a runner who can do that, when...
Not to mention it would pull extra men out of the box on run defending, opening our running game up more also.
Is he? Or is he Reggie Bush v2.0?
Same with Hartline, but i noticed you left him out of this.
Let me Add, Smith, Davis and Henne to that.
Get over it, it was years ago now.
Let it go already, it's done and over with. We can't change it.
For you yes. We should trade you back to FH for a 5th round pic.
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JP couldn't do those things either, so its not like we are losing anything. We are actually gaining, cause now Wake can gain experience.
Part of the problem is, him being used the way he was in 2002 and 2003 is the reason that all happened. He was being run into the ground.
The fact that the year before was a Contract year?
I didn't see that desire in his play last season. And it was his very own play that had Tony wanting to bring the younger players in. It's...
We won't lose a thing with him gone and Wake taking his place. We will actually gain imo. Joey can't cover or defend the run, so if Wake takes his...
I feel McDaniels wanted Pees, and this just helped him ship off Nolan to do so. Some of the moves out of Denver kinda make me wonder.
If he is this so called bust you talk about, how can you trade that which has no value? So you want 3 possession receivers who can't stretch the...
Not only that, a true #1 will help open the run game up more also. Cause a #1 can demand double coverage. Basically forcing a defense to pick its...
Pass on that, would rather have Dez Bryant.
He is not the only dolphin to be scared of contact. Ever watch Madison try to tackle? The fits he gave me with his pathetic arm tackling, put your...
They always disagree, Parcells doesn't want "Yes" men around him. He wants people who will challenge his thoughts on players and other issues. You...
So was everyone else.
He is great on special teams. Not sure on his contract value and if a paycut should be in order.
Clemons wasn't late, he was over the top of the WR who left Smith sitting, he can't cover two WR's deep.
Yeah he made a cut after catching a pass and was down on the field.
Well in a different sort of way he could help do all those things. By teaming with Ricky to pound the rock, we wouldn't wear either one of them...
We don't even use Ronnie in the passing game enough, why waste a pick on Spiller when we won't even use him in the passing game? Andre Johnson is...
Go check it out, all our WR's suck at YAC. Cause we mainly run outs and comeback patterns. We don't set it up for them to get YAC. Some of it's...
Part of having playmakers is actually putting them in a position to make plays. We have playmakers on the team currently, but we run smashmouth...
When it comes to the draft, the only way i would use our first pick on a offensive player, is if Dez Bryant is looking me in the eyes at our pick....
We needed what 5 yards or less? Shocked we didn't pass for it, i mean it woulda been a perfect time for one of Hennings famous WR screens to Bess...
Sounds like a line you could say about anyone on our offense after 3 years in it.
With a lot of it just being dink and dunk passes. They need to just open up the offense, we have playmakers, they are just too blind to not even...
You mean game right? :tongue2:
Hmm Like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ5uPJGwscU
I always thought on a play like that, the refs were supposed to delay blowing the whistle till the ball was recoverd, just in case.
I wouldn't say he doesn't run hard, but he sure does run light for a 240lb RB. He gets stopped cold way too much.
Well i am not going to sit here and throw stones about who i think is the better player. I want them both back, I want Ronnie as the starter, with...
Sure hope he works on it in the offseason.
Yes he is, so deal with it MR internet tough guy! Relax people jeez.
Omg Ginn!
WOOT GINN!! Screw off flag!
No idea, i know Ricky and Ronnie get a long, but i don't think that well lol.
Vontae with the heat. What a hit!
He didn't have those two his whole career, but the defense sure was mediocre.
Did they cry like you do when the WR dropped a Farve pass? There are factors into drops, that drop, was not on Ginn.
Or with the fact he cant connect with them when they are wide open.
That he hasn't, but he is part of the reason we have only put up 3 points. We are playing like crap in every aspect of this game. All the players...
Yeah it was a horrible pass, number 1 he was way too close for that much zip on the ball, number 2 he threw it high not protecting the WR in...
But you can't make a career of throwing short in the NFL if you keep throwing Bullets.
I know that, he definately has things to improve on over the offseason. So does everyone else on the team.
It was a horrible pass, you don't throw it that high, in that traffic, that close to the line of scrimmage, you throw it around his waist to give...
It was a crappy throw by MR i can't throw a touch pass to save my life. Was a high throw really close to the line of scrimmage, had way too much...
Megatron is who? Besides being a decepticon.
I have said it before, he is a light 240lb RB.
They both look familiar with the offensive player behind them running to the endzone.
I coulda sworn it was 28, not 29.
You sure on that? Since NFL.com has it listed as Wilson also.
Wilson you mean?
He wasn't moving away at all, he took his eyes off the ball to see where the defender was and dropped it. Happens all the time, quit making it a...
It doesn't matter how the fumbles happen, all that matters is they do seem to happen. And hate to break it to you, he has always been prone to...
Oh oh, dont forget that Ricky can still fumble the rock :tongue2:
Yeah 3rd and 1 would be a good choice to try for the deep shot. Run a PA to Polite and then chuck it downtown to Ginn. Defenses will play up...
You're talking about the same offensive coordinator that couldn't utilize Ronnie Browns ability? I mean we barely use him to catch the ball when...
Or you could just shelve the Wildcat and run out of normal formations. If you show you can win without the Wildcat how will his price go up?
Not about splitting hairs, if you are over .500 you have a winning record. You can't take that away from them. Just because after that game they...
They weren't 1-0 when we played them. So no i am not joking. Even if they were 1-0 that still defines a winning record at the time of a game.
Triple coverage on Cam or Bess is the difference.
Actually no, we beat the Jets when they had a winning record also. Not our fault they don't now, but they did then, so it still counts.
Yes that route and more quick slants! If the corner misses the tackle we could have a huge play. I feel the WR's are now being allowed to run more...
I am worried about that also, he seemed to enjoy having Ronnie in the spotlight so he could sit back and do his thing.
It's only been a few weeks, i don't expect to hear much about it till the offseason.
Yeah because all but one of our WR's are possession receivers.
Could be the fact that atm Smith sucks at press coverage. And failing the press on Moss is a bad thing.
We had Ronnie Brown who could pass catch and we didn't mix it up then, why would that change now for Sheets? I give the offense staff kudos for...
Lets back this bus up a little shall we. We had Ronnie Brown, a running back who was probably a better WR then any WR on our team. Did we use him...
I don't care what anyone in our offense does in practice, cause for one thing, it's against our D and it has showed how well it can stop people or...
Basically having Ricky throw in that situation is dumb. You have your QB throw in that situation since he is use to reading the D. Ricky on the...
Execution or not, you don't have a player who up to that point has attempted how many NFL passes, throw the ball in that situation. Would have...
Johnson is good don't get me wrong, but Deangelo runs with nice power and balance, his upper body is strong( just look at that preseason run he...
Imho he is the best back in the league, Yes even better then AP.
He scares me, showed he doesn't protect the ball well in preseason against backups. Now he will face starters. I sure hope Ricky is rdy to handle...
It has some to do with Ronnie, since Ronnie has blocked for him, and also handed it off to him in the wildcat. He is averaging 5.3 yards per carry...
Would be a perfect time for Ginn to finally break out of the funk he is in.
Even worse, he is going to let Porter play.
Right where he doesn't want to be.
He never made it to the Dog house, he was blocked by a Shih Tzu.
He might not have been on the stat sheet with Catches. But he helped open up the run game whether you want to admit it or not. Those deep passes...
Is it having his eyes cheating to who is going to hit him, or his eyes cheating to where he can run after he catches it so people won't hit him?...
Has none? He had 7 for 33 yards.
I agree, but basically thats mainly what Porter does. He is not very good at the other aspects. Which is why i want Wake in the game, at least on...
Going to have to disagree, i think Porters specialty is now getting blocked and easily. Did he take a trip to Canada and get Married to Vernon...
For one season, they call those one year wonders.
Catches against the Pats, not hard when you catch 3 yard passes. Cam gives us the same things Bess does, but guess what? Cam does all those things...
What has he proven? He can play, but he is not so great that i wouldn't check to see what Allen can do there.
I mean really, he can't do any worse then Porter.
How could he come close against the Pats, what did he return maybe 2 or 3, the rest were kicked out of the endzone. I mean you can't return a kick...
Ginn was improving from year to year, he hit a wall right now. So that could be called a slump. Bess had one year, maybe Bess is just a one year...
So Bess is in a slump, be we can't classify Ginn as being in a slump? Our whole WR core is in a slump right now. As for who to keep, i would keep...
I am past that, Porter needs to sit on the Bench and watch Wake make plays.
I would be willing to give him a shot over Jones, but not the other two.
All he makes is big plays, it's the routine ones he drops.
They were great, now they seem average at best. But i think its more cause Henning won't spread the offense out, he wants to keep running power...
I thought he only had safety help a few times. Most looked 1 vs 1.
Difference is, Moss is a hall of fame WR. Turner well lets just say he has a long road ahead. Moss showed people that in college also.
And the last thing we need is a WR that has proven he drops a lot of passes. Ginn has had the drops this year, Chambers has had the drops his...
Could have sworn i seen him jump up for that in the middle of 3 defenders, if he caught it, i don't think he was going anywhere. Well maybe an...
Or he would have dropped it, and turned into the new whipping boy.
I find it even harder to believe that the 6'5" Turner would even have enough separation to even have it thrown to him.
Why would his return performance get him back to WR anyways? It was a good performance returning, not at WR. He needs to make plays at WR for that...
Yeah i sure got that feeling when he awarded him the gameball this week :headscratch: The guy looked happy for Ginn. I don't think he hates Ginn...
Problem is, Smith wont change sides to cover him. He has strictly worked on the one side. But Davis has worked at both CB spots, heck even in the...
Flip that around and i think we could do fairly well. Welker doesn't like a physical big hitting CB covering him. I forget what team this year had...
I think the offense failed cause we tried to force a power game down an 11 man front. Think any WR on our team besides Ginn worries Revis? Doubt...
Reading the posts in this thread make me laugh, take about Knee jerk reactions.
Yeah he did look a little lost on that play, but i also feel he didn't want Cotchery getting behind him.
Kleckoisgod or whatever his name is from Jetnation said, "The fins haven't even beaten a team with a winning record." I was like damn, he is dumb,...
Don't make it sound like he is the only reason we lost those games. Cause well he wasn't the only reason.
Returned a fumble for a TD.
But he also opens the field for other things to happen. I find it a little funny how our worst offensive performance happens on a day he is...
He got the game ball.
Like our whole reciever core this past game? Like our oline this game? Its a fact different people show up different weeks for us. Been that way...
Like i said, he didn't ask to be picked at #9, Cameron picked him then. Everyone knew they reached for him. So why on earth would you expect him...
Drop the he was picked #9 overall in the draft already. So sick of seeing that, like the Kid had a choice when he was drafted. Everyone knew what...
Thing is, he can buy icecream across the road from his house, so the truck stopped there to let him catch up. I think the icecream place is 110yds...
Meh, he said hurt with an icepack. Hurt = Can still play (while defense is on field, he has icepack instead of hotdog) Injured = You can't play
Right now, thats what Ginn needs to do, focus on things ONE catch at a time.
He didn't cause it, he was a pass that should have been caught that went off his hands, the defense bobbled it more then Ginn did. And who was...
Really, the Jets need that to get them up for this game?
I could tell by the camera angle they showed during the game. Was obvious he wasn't in the endzone when the ball came out.
Yeah the kid screwed up, but i knew he got back to cause that fumble. And i knew it was a fumble that the refs blew the call on. Should have been...
So let me get this straight, he missed a tackle on a drive, then he made a tackle to force a FG on the very same drive. Well if he made the first...
Or split Ronnie out wide, we know he can run routes. In the second half our pressure on Brees just disappeared, i am not impressed with Porter...
Nah just a classic mistake, not looking the ball into his hands, he was looking for a place to run once he got the ball and forgot to catch it. He...
Yes Ginn showed nice hustle to get back and force that fumble. I coulda sworn it was fumbled out of bounds thru the endzone. And it came out...
I want to know why we didn't hit them with a PA deep pass with how they were biting on the run. Henne would hand it off and boom you would see the...
I think what hurt us most in the second half is our pressure on Brees all but dried up.
Not today, i think he was holding hands with Ginn and got butter all over them also.
So going by this, we should BOO Bell and Wilson off the field also.
Well the Colts scored 27 in 15 mins. So it could be lol.
He left his feet to launch himself at a defenseless player. That in itself is not clean. If he didn't launch himself it woulda been a cleaner hit,...
Tell that to the Jets now.
So did Manning, yet we had so many chances to win that game, just didn't seal it. We can beat the Saints, can they beat us? Yes. But they play the...
The same way we played the Colts, minus the mistakes that cost us the game. Run the ball to keep Brees off the field and control the clock.
They are very weak, where we are very strong. But being in the same division, one can never take a division foe lightly.
Regardless of what else happens, we win that game if our D can tackle. Heck we win it if we go for it on 4th and 1 and not allow them to score...
Fins Gone Wild! Er maybe not heh.
Nope, just last year the Giants had two 1000 yard Rushers....
Out of all the overthrows to a wide open Ginn Deep this year, its about time we connect!
I am pretty sure everyone already knew this. It's not like it new news or anything. Saying you can stop it is totally different from actually...
If we can run on the Jets tonight, then i think we can run on anyone. It's the only danger to our offense atm, and if they can't stop it, it prob...
Bolded part is the truth, problem with that is, we don't throw much.
We don't expect to hang big points on your D, we expect to speed the game up with a power running game. Taking long drives that eat the clock,...
Yes, we do, just not comparable to other teams ones lol.
You mean the same team that had to shoot themselves in the foot numerous times for the Pats to get by them? The same Team that played darn good...
Did something that one of our One's did also, he dropped two touchdown catches against KC also.
I think so also, i feel it's the two best teams in the AFC East on Monday night. Sure we might be 1-3, but we are better then our record shows. At...
Get prepared to be embarrassed then. Jets fans seem to think this game is going to be a walk in the park. Look at the Colts right now against the...
Most of the time he keeps it, not always, but to change the flow to a different side of the field would be nice, would make the defense change...
I would love to see us flip the Wildcat and run Ricky from the other side of the formation. Give a team a diff look that way also, could confuse...
I care about winning games, if we are a better team with Henne then so be it. That doesn't mean i dont care about Penny, what he helped us do was...
Like i said, that depends on Henne's play this season. If he plays well, it will be Penny who? Henne holds the cards for himself being the starter...
I think it all depends on how Henne plays. He has the power in his hands right now to keep the QB job away from Penny. Hard to say how i feel...
Once Henne gets a little more comfy out there, i feel our passing game will open up some. Until then it's heavy, heavy doses of R&R.
So you're saying the first drive in the Charger game cost us the win? LOL. If this team let that first drive sink them, then we never had a chance...
That we are :)
Here comes another serving of Wake and JT.
No he didn't Mr Ricky's Jockstrap!
Ground can't cause a fumble!