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2014/15 Indianapolis Colts - Time of Death - 3:19 of the 3rd quarter in the AFC Championship Game.
The stay of execution has been lifted.
Some seem to forget (or were too young to remember) that Indy used to be in our division and much of our dislike for them originates from then.
NE creates some match up problems but Seattle are the Champs until dethroned.
That int feels more like a stay of execution than being a game altering play.
I will tell you all that I don't want to see Indy win because I don't want them to be validated for what they did back in 2011 to get Luck. While...
Yes they're a good team but expecting them to win this game at this stage down 14 requires a little something more.
There's faith and then there's blind faith.
I'll second this.
It's the latter but it's amplified at home.
True but for some reason teams go in there and look far worse than they are. How many 50 spots has NE put up against teams at home?
That may work at home vs KC. Foxboro is a different animal.
It's like a vortex or something...where SuperBowl dreams go to die.
This one has a chance to get ugly in a hurry.
Ohhh to get into the playoffs...Ricky with 185+ yards rushing and Fiedler...well you're right. I stopped watching that one because it was in the bag.
Even if Luck balls out, who is stopping the run?
Was that the overtime game...Brady to Brown?
But we see how that ended up. I'm just an advocate of staying aggressive and keeping your edge.
Or the Jets in 2000.
Oh I am well aware but those series of events only seems to happen when you're on your heels. Besides, they stopped being aggressive on offense in...
Maybe the problem goes a bit deeper. Our coach came from that environment and the outcome today was very Philbin-esque.
Hey - I am not a huge fan of his style and I would take T-Hill before him. But he is a gamer, a winner and a face of the NFL. I will be rooting...
We never run deep passes to the post and I don't think we've ever seen Cover 0.
He didn't play his first year...took over in his second. Went years two, four and five.
Hey man...you gotta give credit where credit is due. Wilson was given the opportunity and he delivered.
On the first long pass, he hit the open spot on the Cover 2. For some reason they go to Cover 0 on the winning play. Why would you ever go to...
No that was a great throw but every defender was within 6 yards of the LOS. Not only was there not a cover 2 but no cover 1. That's the threat of...
Those were two great clutch throws but it also speaks to what the threat of the run does.
And what exactly did Wilson do other than throw a few passes, hand off to Lynch, have his defense make a key stop, have his team convert an onside...
Yeah...ok
That kick was stone cold.
It's not insecurity...it's just media and fandom created frustration.
Because we beat them earlier in the year and I don't want to see too many 2012 QBs win big until our guy does.
Come on DJ. That was a prayer...that was answered.
Below average outside guys. Willson is good and Lynch is all-world.
Personally I wouldn't be mad. I want to see a Sea vs NE match up. Much of the discussion has been about Wilson's performance.
That's why it's a team game. QBs don't make it to Championship Games...teams do.
Yes - as a team. Wilson's QB rating says more about the position the defense puts him in and the support he receives from Lynch. We are seeing the...
This is the hyperbole I am talking about. It was a swing pass on a miss-matched LB. Hardly a pass we wouldn't expect a starting QB to make.
Maybe but there were other open receivers on the play. DJ - he just isn't a pocket passer. It is what it is.
As a player? Not really. I think he is a poor pocket passer that is consistently protected by that defense and Lynch.
You force him into the pocket and the results are ugly.
Says a lot about the QB rating stat then doesn't it?
The last pass was late. He has to throw that as the receiver comes out of his break.
I do not dislike him. He's an excellent person and great for the NFL. What I do not like are the countless people hyping up a backup QB as if he's...
The throw was late. He's just not a pocket passer.
Out of character or exposed?
Wilson the pocket passer that appeared vs KC, SD and Dallas has shown up today. Four times in one year...maybe that's just who he is.
Have you seen Wilson today? Better luck with the defense making a play.
That was a horrible defensive call on that 3rd down play.
To steal from Dennis Green...."Wilson is who we thought he was."
So many people don't realize how much easier a QB's job is when there's always the threat of the run and the defense never puts you in extremely...
This is more than a bad game. This is exposing a defect in his game that was masked by an all-world defense and running back.
Quite honestly...so many here trash Tannehill while propping up Wilson. I think it's only reasonable that they come to this thread for an ounce of...
DJ - kind of amazing what happens when Wilson is forced to make passes from the pocket in obvious passing situations isn't it? This has nothing...
Me personally, I think we've seen enough to talk extension. There are maybe 10 QBs on the planet that can play the position better than him and...
We've been over this countless times but so few seem to get it. It's not that he doesn't sense pressure, it's that the rush gets to him so fast...
It's tough to compare one situation to the next. As much of a Marino fan as I am (just like everyone on this site) I do think we tend to...
There are two things in see here. First, one of the most difficult things to do in life (and sports) is to look one's self in the mirror and take...
In football terms we are far past whether or not Tannehill is a player. I think he's firmly entrenched as a 11-12 QB in the league with a ceiling...
You notice how Armando seems to have sources while all Omar Kelly talks about is passer rating?
You are lumping Landry in with the other two? What planet are you on?
Thomas wow...just wow!
Thomas strikes again
Well Wallace' contract becomes manageable after this year and Landry is a keeper. We need two more receivers.
That catch by Wallace was a pick to Gibson earlier. Sometimes you just need your receiver to make a play for you.
At least we now know why Matthews doesn't play.
Well Tannehill has calmed the deep ball talk today. The first pick was bad but just shows we need a taller seem threat. The second pick was a DPI....
Point differential can still be a tiebreaker.
Kinda forgotten but Philbin punting on 4th and 1 on similar play where Harbaugh went for it last week was the turning point. The Pats had...
QB is definitely not the problem. I'm not sure what so many of these fans see.
What is odd is that he was lobbying for the penalty. He gets it then gets his own penalty. The pure definition of stupidity.
I'm not sure. I think that was a back shoulder throw to keep Thomas from running into the defender.
Well at least the Tannehill can't throw deep talk should slow down.
It just seems year after year that the game in Foxboro is heavily aided by the officials. I don't think it's overt but every 50/50 call goes their...
That was an obvious, obvious DPI not called. If you can't see that from 10 feet away, then why are you an official in the NFL?
This is what I will say about the Tannehill/Wallace thing. Google "Mike Wallace 2012" - down the first page is a BR story regarding Wallace' 2012...
That first season really set this team back in terms of talent. Because Philbin couldn't handle strong personalities we lost Davis and Marshall...
The question is...is this team 9-7 or 10-6 because of Philbin or in spite of him? This team is not as talented as some like to believe. We lack a...
There's only one opinion that matters and that is Steven Ross. If I recall correctly, Ross was interviewed before the season and he emphasized...
I think Turner will be good to go at one of the guard positions. We need another option at the other guard spot. There's been some talk of looking...
I think without any major changes, stability along the line and another year in the system will yield playoff level results. T-Hill does not...
It depends on why the protection is breaking down. Right now we are dealing with pressure from 4 down linemen with the remainder dropping into...
Poor catch radius not being discussed last season? That's all we talked about last year. As for percentile, that number only means something when...
In terms of PFF numbers, a catchable pass that isn't caught likely counts as a drop. As well, PFF cannot account for poor catch radius. If...
And? The point is he's had perfect deep balls for TDs dropped so the talk that he can't throw deep is nonsense. Go on YouTube and watch the...
Here's the thing. There are about 10 players in the world that can play QB better than Tannehill and a good majority of them are over 30. You...
A QBs primary job is to set protections, get the team into the appropriate play and distribute the ball to the playmakers. Being a playmaker...
You have to know your personnel and your own tendencies because your opposition knows both. If you run a dive on first down in every critical...
I do recall the NE game where Moreno just gashed the Pats. He did it with physicality between the tackles. This is the element that Miller does...
Look at those situations. In each situation we revert to run, run, pass or run, pass, run (that was disgusting). We lose our imagination in those...
I'm not hard on Lazor. He's very smart and he's learning. He does, however, abandon the run far too soon and has suddenly forgot about the read...
Look at it from this perspective, if T-Hill has Seattle's defense, we beat GB, Detroit and Denver...and maybe even KC. That's three more wins for...
Our Achilles Heel (Dallas Thomas) neutralizes their Achilles Heel.
I would like to see more too. As for ability, I was very impressed with that scramble pass to Wallace. I don't more than 5 or 6 QBs in the league...
What I am saying is that he's not skilled pocket passer. The team didn't succeed in these situations but he was clearly having trouble passing in...
Brady has been doing that for years. But the part that most here miss, and is not surprising, is that teams are getting to the QB in two seconds...
There's no mischaracterization. He is not a pocket passer and that works for Seattle. If he was truly great, he would have done more with those...
They very well can win another ring but they are a complete team. What people think here is that QBs win SuperBowls and the other 45 players are...
Do you want to know what? Until the oline isn't in shambles you won't know if you have an elite QB or not. No personnel man will make a negative...
If you notice, Brady has been dinking and dunking since before Moss got there and since he left. When he throws deep, you see the 4 to 5 missed...
Wilson clearly had opportunities to win from the pocket vs SD, Dallas and KC and was 3 or 4 and out each time (maybe there was one first down in...
The one thing about making plays is that you need your oline to at least play at a borderline competent level. When a team can get fierce...
This offense can run fine if receiver do not drop balls, the oline doesn't take pre-snap penalties and you stay committed to the running game....
Wilson has become a one read and run and a scramble QB. He's had three opportunities to win the game from the pocket this year and failed to...
DJ, you do realize that rollout pass to Wallace was an excellent "playmaking" play. Too bad it was called back. Besides, improvisation usually...
With everything on the line, how can this team put Thomas out there. Even when he's getting support, he's still collapsing the pocket. What I...
I love how he slyly throws his QB under the bus when everyone and their dog saw what he did on that play. Oh the play is too tough so I'm not even...
Fans believe what they want to believe and if enough people agree with you then it must be true. This concept plagues football more than any...
Yeah I thought the attraction to Wallace was that you couldn't overthrow him. Lovely how that worked out. The only time Brady ever looked...
You can't throw deep without time. Besides, Wallace needs a perfect pass 50 yards downfield to even have a chance. That's just not realistic. He...
That's hogwash. The rollout to Wallace was a ridiculous throw - 31 yards on a rope. The missed TD was a throw to a spot that Wallace misjudged...
How anyone can blame this on T-Hill is delusional. He's the only one out there that was keeping this close. That and we gotta stop decommitting to...
Their not talented enough to overcome these plays. You just had to know when Gibson dropped that pass that it would be the beginning of the end....
Yes by Dallas Thomas
Like I said, I am no fan of Philbin. In fact I don't know how anybody could be. But this game was there for the taking. Gibson's drop was...
And always seems to rear it's ugly head against Baltimore.
Because the QB can handle it. Our soft linemen probably can't take the criticism.
I don't see a Dallas Thomas on Baltimore's roster. He has completely changed the complexion of this offense.
I'm no fan of Philbin and his staff but there just isn't a lot talent on this team right now. Losing Albert brought Thomas into the equation....
Man there are a lot of needs on this team...including a lot on the defense. I know there's a desire to blame the coaches but so much of this is...
That drop by Gibson was a killer. We were marching to make it 17-0.
You can't have all the issues at once because if you did you wouldn't have an NFL team. This game has made it clear that the oline cannot pass...
That's why we don't pass deep
This just isn't a very good team. A lot of mistakes. A lot of players overmatched. We have the most money tied up in receivers in the entire...
He was throwing to an open spot while Wallace is jogging into the end zone.
This is the biggest difference between the Pats and Dolphins. The Pats just don't beat themselves. If the Pats were playing, this game would be 24-0.
When people have their weekly criticisms of T-Hill, remember these penalties, drops and sacks.
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One of the big reasons was that they used deep posts with Wallace in Pitt. Go look at the Wallace Pitt highlights on YouTube as well as the...
The Jets came to play. They had an innovative gameplan that was stalled in the second half. They dropped a lot into coverage that limited our...
You can't win with a leaky oline, 15M receivers dropping TDs and RBs popping up ints. If anyone wondered why this team cannot get out of their...
If you want to know why we cannot pass deep, take a look at the interior oline.
The interior o-line is going to ruin this season. From untimely penalties to seive-like pass pro...this is not looking good.
Of course but his legs are corralled. That's an easy play for any pro pass catcher...or at least it should be.
There was nothing wrong with that throw. You don't expect your receiver to airmail it. This game is proof that passer rating means nothing....
Ok...T-Hill is not a top QB and with his level of experience it would be unreasonable to expect that he would. The best signs of encouragement...
I tend to disagree. Go watch the over/under throws on YouTube from last year. Some of these were excellent throws that just missed 50+ yards down...
As well...go watch the clips of Wallace from last year. He is not moving like that this year. The hamstring has to be bothering him.
Here's the thing with T-Hill's deep ball this season...he threw two excellent passes vs NE (one Wallace couldn't get his second foot down and the...
T-Hill is going to be discussed on these boards for as long as he's a Fin and for about 2-3 decades after. He not at Luck's level right now but...
I think that some feel the need to fight back against what has predominantly been a negative sentiment amongst the fan base and media.
I think that you are a few years outdated with your theory of the QB position. Your theory climaxed around the 2012 Draft as there had been a run...
I don't know. I've seen improvement in this area...the TD to Matthews is one play that stands out. Besides, getting better at broken plays takes a...
It very well could be the latter because there is such a speed discrepancy between Wallace and the other receivers. One thing that is rarely...
I really do not see any issue with T-Hill's deep ball - the shots to Sims (v NE) and Hartline (v Buf) were right in the basket. The shot to...
Check my post history from last season.
If you look closely to Wallace' deep passes in Pitt, most were deep post patterns where the margin for error is significant as well as allowing...
This is so rarely touched on. Not to mention he's been in the same offense for his entire career. This no doubt aids to his incredible efficiency....
Beyond the fact they were playing Manning on the road...the reason they looked exhausted was because they were. It appeared as if the altitude got...