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$17.5M and a 3rd is too much. $17.5M and no pick is too much. Any extension would include guaranteed money which means dead cap if he doesn't make...
He has one year left at $17.5M. Pass at that price. If I'm him, I'm making the Texans cut me and going with free agency. Not renegotiating for a...
Tyreek Hill owes a lot his recent success to quarterback Patrick Mahomes, but the Chiefs wide receiver revealed that he initially didn’t think...
Yeah, but he cannot throw an accurate deep ball...
Well, his uncle on his moms side made 5'11" work reasonably well...
Just participate. I've never had an issue with anyone there, and I ask and say stupid things. Club gets more of the discussion because of how...
As an atheist I find the bolded insane. But, this thread is about to rightly go into admin deletion mode, so I'm out!
Well, it's moot now, but I remember the words "neck" and "snapped". Could be a false memory from the context I guess. Regardless, I should move...
That's a bunch of weird straw men. No we won't compare him to Fitz for his entire career, but as of now is there a better comp for playing with...
Very few. Are we already forgetting how in love everyone was with Fitz and his 50/50 balls? Tua throws much fewer of those, even with our...
Yeah, someone posted an endzone view of the throw which made it clear it was Tua trusting his arm to get it by the LB before he could react. I...
3 does not equal five. 5 equals five. If the best science is currently that you need a minimum of 5 days between possible exposure and testing to...
Just as a point of order, Rosen wasn't traded to the Bucs, he was cut by the Dolphins. Claimed by no one, and signed to the Bucs practice squad as...
Downside is missing the person that we could have drafted with the first overall, or the picks we could have gotten for trading it. We could still...
Josh started 3 games, had a normal off-season and pre-season, plus a Covid pre and off season. He could still develop, and I hope he does. Seems...
That wasn't a game where statistical analysis of his play is relevant as for most of the game. His goals weren't what the models that measure QB...
I saw a much different game than you did. I'll be surprised if that Buffalo game isn't of huge importance at the end of the year. Tua did exactly...
You think they win 2 games out of the next 9. With two of them being against the Jets and Pats again? Interesting.
There is a lot to continue to be exited about by that D. Also, why would you expect that performance to continue on offence?
Easy block here. I'd say thanks, but you won't see it.
The first times always rough. Just relax and breath through your nose... Too much?
Is there a reason why Dan would know Dolphins staff intentions? Or, was that speculation on his part?
You are ignoring that this is a very communicable virus. There is a weird disconnect that because the direct personal danger to the players is...
That's not true at all. It has been controlled and contained in other countries. Facts matter. Just wearing cloth masks is proven to help the...
Truth. No ones high school sports experience is worth some ones else's life. That's the issue with COVID. Just because you're one of the majority...
I get that, and that's fair. I feel both. I'm excited for Tua and sad for Fitz. Independently. Football is only fun for me because the lows flavor...
Of course he was upset he lost the job, he loves playing football and realized he could have started his last game. He's just going to be a year...
I love Simon's rants. This weeks didn't age well though... :console:
I think he's been elite since getting there too, but you have to count fumbles lost if you are counting rushing TDs.
Team success is tied to QB play, and coach success is tied to team success. But, it's not like a coach picks one QB and can only roll with them....
Possibly. Yes, I think all Dolphin fans hope that. If Tua gets no starts this year it most likely means this season went pretty well.
Great with it, given his circumstances.
He is the same QB. I get what you meant, but the point of many in this thread is that he is the same guy that we had in Miami, just in a...
So, you want to run "read option plays" when the game is won? The Dolphins don't run a bunch of RPO, when they do its more effective because there...
How would a few hand offs help him be more ready? I am struggling to understand the logic here.
No, its lame to throw passes when all you need to do is run clock. It's how you get WRs hurt when they are just getting healthy. It's lame to push...
What experience does handing the ball off give? Does anyone think he cannot take snaps?
I think the question would be why was Tannehill less effective in those games. I don't know, and am not going to rewatch. So, this might not be an...
Score was not reflective of that game. 9, 12, and 14 play drives ended in missed/blocked field goals of under 50 yards. Which is 9 points off the...
That wasn't directed at resnor. He (resnor) and FinFaninBuffalo are debating "The Guy". If that doesn't seem apparent, I'm guessing you've been...
The Tua thread in club currently has over 500 more posts than this one, but now that he's a Dolphin I expect that discussion will be rolled into...
Challenge accepted. I think the Jets and Adam Gase are pretty cool.
When has keeping a malcontent worked out? There must be an example, it's escaping me now. Regardless, cutting bait while a first is on the...
Who is it that hasn't picked a bust that has spent any time as a GM in the NFL? I don't know who was the buck stop previously in Miami, but since...
An Alex Smith level guy would be an amazing QB 3.
We are talking about the 3rd QB spot here. Rosen has a great arm when he keeps his mechanics and a decent feel for the pocket. He is consistently...
He also had clear drops of non 50/50 balls that didn't go his way. I'm not sure where you are getting that he hasn't progressed over several...
Rosens first starts were better than Fitzs, the team was historically awful to start the year. They churned 25% of the roster the week before the...
Rosen is two months younger than Joe Burrow. I'm not sure why anyone would think he cannot improve.
The bruising i am referring to was along her jawline. She had other bruises too. Her friend at work, the one that knew her from high school, (she...
See, those were straw man arguments. And insults. Go away child, I'm done with you.
Because people care about rape. It's considered very bad. It still happens. My experience is that most of us know someone it happened to. This...
Are you really struggling with why people exchange opinions on a message board? Or, are you trying to make a point about posting on message boards...
A 6 foot 6 pro athlete grabbed a nineteen year old girl from behind around the neck hard enough to leave bruising, stripped her, had rough sex...
Unless, you take Kobe at his word. Or, the specific facts as agreed to by all parties, (the chokehold, no asking for consent until the end when...
Luckily he got that part over with already... Here he is last week: [MEDIA]
I don't think they pay nearly as much attention to Mahomes run threat. I'm not sure how much you can take from the Baltimore game. I'd look more...
There is a clear difference in the way games are called in the post season. QBs have to be accurate because DBs get away with a lot more. Running...
It's the Marino effect, he is comparison for QBs in Miami. Did you see what he did his first full season starting? Plus, the competition for good...
Not really a valid comparison to my mind. The day in and day out preparation and planning involved to have many weeks of great play vs an...
Questioning his motivation really seems out of left field. I cannot think of anyone doing so before you. His heart has never been an issue. Plenty...
Being the best in the nfl at something in a given year is impressive to me. Being the best, after basically being fired is even more so. I think...
You're complicating the issue. I'm not looking to debate past performance, or reasons for it. His stats, and his play are elite this year, so far...
How many games/how long/number off attempts is it going to take for you? And, if you have time, why that number? Tannehill hit Cbrads number of...
Chiefs traded up, as did the Ravens, and the Texans. Huston went from 25 to 12, Baltimore from 52 to 32, and KC from 27 to 10. None had to pick in...
Why not both? We have the ammo...
Any other Oregonians going/have bet? Had to work and didn't get it set up in time last week.
That's too many straw men to unpack. It doesn't seem like the context of this discussion is being kept post to post, or we are speaking slightly...
In that context I'm not seeing much difference between religions and human societies in general, including modern ones. Perhaps, especially modern...
In science the burden of proof is on the person claiming something to be factual. You seem to be talking about belief though, so I'm not sure what...
He cannot now. Will he be able to in the future is the question. He throws a great ball, demonstrated good feel for the pocket last week, etc......
I am having a hard time with this post. Don't take the first two games graded into consideration because there isn't enough data to draw a...
Ok, please do so. Jesse Davis, undrafted free agent and starting left tackle is hurt. He played right tackle and right guard last year. Rookie...
Oh, I see. I didn't get that from the context of the thread. I figured the man was Rosen and the tanks were the Dolphins season. Thanks.
I'm not sure how it's ironic. It's certainly metaphorical. One man stopping the tank.
Did you read what Stills said? He was specific. "Some of the ways he answered his questions, talking about we're moving past kneeling, like he...
Miami's home field advantage, since the roof was put in, is under rated. 16 and 8 at home the last three years. On teams that went 23 and 25 over...
Dany was right. If she was going to be liberating the world, she had to Keyser Söze Kings Landing. If not, she'd face the same situation over and...
From Webster's When asked if God exists do you stare blankly, maybe meow a little, and then go play with some yarn? Are you unable to even begin...
That goes both ways. Atheism is a belief, not a science, not a fact. No one can prove that there isn't/wasn't a creator. We cannot even prove that...
Yeah, good point. I will need help finding the best deal I can on a throw back #3 (assuming Rosen keeps the number). Never bought a jersey before....
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As of last year, the US was still paying a civil war death pension. The vet married late and adopted a disabled child which was given his pension...
I'm with the OP then... He shouldn't be learning the entire offense yet. :couch:
Naw, it'll be the 1 and 3 NE Patriots. Respect is a few weeks off. Who cares though? Do you really need more time hearing talking heads who don't...
Thanks! I needed a win today.
I'm too lazy to Google it, but I remember reading that on 40 yrd passes Wallace in Pittsburgh caught 25% of targets, in Miami that dropped to 24%....
I remember reading articles where, to my mind, he did just that. That is how I found out my information. Regardless, this is turning into pofo so...
Let's be clear about why Collin kneeled. He kneeled to honor service members. At first he didn't respond to the Anthem at all staying on the...
Disagree, it was funny. How thin skinned can one be and stay a Dolphins fan anyway?
It's a different level athletically. 4.54 vs 4.62 40yrd dash, 41.5" vs 36" vertical, 3 cone, shuttles all similarly better... and he's an inch...
Post of the year for me.
None of that changes the past. A game played is not a game to be played. A hurt QB in the future is not a hurt QB in the past. A 4-3 record...
Sure can, you don't retroactively lose a game because your QB is out. The next game is a different game with a new scoreboard. Wins and losses...
"Realistically", the Dolphins won 4 games because they scored more points than the other team did. You can tell this because of what the score...
The time to sign him was in the preseason. Now it's too late. He needs tailored offence and you cannot make those changes 1/4 into the season....
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Well, I don't think we have an argument then.
Cam Wake was cut in June his rookie season. He was in his fourth year as a pro his first camp with us. If that's your standard, Harris has 3 more...
After one preseason he is for sure not the next Cam Wake? The same Cam Wake who had very simular preseason stats this year? The same Cam Wake who...
Your argument seems to be evolving, or my understanding of the argument is. So, you agree that a first round DE could be drafted to be a...
They are drafted with no expectations of being starters in the first year. You play them, pass downs, dime package etc... but that's not what i...
DE and CB are on that list too.
Finally listened to E&C's Daniel Bryan interview from last week. Sounds like he'll be back in the ring. Their Kenny Omega interview from today was...
Einstein's concept of "god" is so far removed from tradition as to be an entirely different thing. It was also clearly an evolving opinion, but by...
Graded by whom? I really question those grades. We are talking about a unit that had people fired during the season for cause.
Edge and Christian have a new segment on their podcast where they have the participants in to break down a match and the first one they did was...
I'm with you. I put the kneelers in the same category as those that fly ragged flags out of their car/truck windows like they're damn battle...
I found his bacne distracting.
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I just went down that rabbit hole. Lebatard on his radio show was the source, and it was admittly heard second hand. Weirdly, Flutie has refused...
He said he was a huge "Tannehill" fan. Now, he could love Ryan as a person, or just love cheering for sucky players, but there was no indication...
CK pointed this out in a club thread, Harris improved his vertical jump by 5.5 inches from combine to proday. (32" to 37.5") Thats an astronomical...
Not cool. Don't like his posts, argue with them, or if you don't want to bother put him on ignore. He posted his grade, making a new grade for...
Edge and Christians new podcast is great. E&Cs Pod of Awesomeness. It has become my favorite wrestling centric podcast with a quickness.
Until the Kaepernick shirt thing, I think Mando was mostly known for plagiarizing Draft Winds and the high fiving dolphin losses. Now he...
Did you miss the points about the injuries and DEs not living up to reasonable expectations? There was no reason to expect Williams and Jones to...
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Difference is crackback. DB is a considered protected player for any crackbacks. Sent from my SM-G935T using Tapatalk
Yeah, this debate is strange, it's very clear. It's sad too. It seems like some haven't enjoyed the playoff run. Sent from my SM-G935T using...
Yep. New offense for everyone. Needed to slow down the pace and simplify the calls, make sure everyone understood concepts. It was a coaching...
That was an out of context quote of Gase. Which I find is usually the case when some one pulls a single sentence and doesn't reference it....
I get it, we are talking about the back up, so there is going to comparisons to the starter, and the starter isn't universally loved (that part I...
Given that all threads in the main forum are eventually Tannehill threads, isn't nice to have a Tannehill thread turn into something else? Sent...
So, you think he's been top 2 DT in the game 4 years, and top 4 once? If so, what is the argument here? If he makes 1st team again this year...
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Sports writers elect the HOF, they also elect all pros. Suh has 4 all pro first team and 1 second team so far, and he is in his prime. By...
That's a picture, it's not going to work. Plus, I just spent 2 hours on Google and there is no such thing as a Sense of Humor store. Are you sure...
The amazing thing as how you all maintain the quality with the quantity. Every post is so meaningful, no spam at all. Just look at this thread,...
You just explained the joke. Don't do that. Sent from my SM-G935T using Tapatalk
You are not your opinion. "That is a silly idea." Is not the same as "Two Tacos is a silly, silly man." Sent from my SM-G935T using Tapatalk
It's about managing expectations. Moore doesn't have to play great to beat the Jets. Let's not set the bar so high for him that an acceptable...
But, Moore didn't beat him, didn't come close. And, they brought in Garrard to be the starter. They wanted to bench him for a year. Your scenario...
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A comeback is a specific thing. You have to be losing, and then comeback to win. Winning after being tied is not a comeback. Moore had an...
You are. The team taking the player is not responsible for paying the signing bonus. Sent from my SM-G935T using Tapatalk
Okay, I wasn't clear enough. I am also getting to this next day, so the conversation may be over, apologies. Montana's teammates confessed...
I don't care about the effect of his teammates cheating. If you're going to cheat, be good enough not to get caught. If you get caught, one of the...
Most of your points aren't relevant to his argument. Steve Young was a hall of fame QB. Cassel is not, we don't know about grapple, grappalalo,...
Tannehill in 2016 with Turner/Thomas: 100 of 156 for 1272 yards with 6 tds and 7 ints and a 83.6 QBR Tannehill in 2016 after Turner and Thomas...
The OL the last two weeks was still head and shoulders better than the OL last year, or the OL at the beginning of this year. How do you think he...
Well, color me disappointed. I thought you were making a clever post about how if you cannot acknowledge the good thing you have, you will not and...
I think you're vastly overestimating the play of Thomas, Turner, and Fox. His line play today registered good on last year's scale. Regardless,...
Football is art, not science. I personally am happy about this. It's why the sport is compelling. You cannot test like you can in medicine. You...
My question was how do you weight your personal analysis vs stats when they disagree. When someone plays better or worse than their stat line. Or,...
I don't know why you didn't use the full quote with the question for context. It's not much longer. I can see your interpretation, but to me...
So much this. Stats are results. Results are always useful for analysis. The problem with football is, as you point out, it is such a team sport....
It's fun to speculate. Tannehill appears to be in the situation that Wilson was in, and everyone was so jealous of. Which makes projecting fun...
Strongly disagree. Sent from my SM-G935T using Tapatalk
What? Where did I say how you had to think? I said you missed his point, you can still disagree, but it should be apples to apples. If I say the...
You seem to have missed his point. The comparison was how Tannehill is being used now to how Wilson was when he came in as a development tool, not...
