Separate names with a comma.
As I said; Subjective.
Subjective I guess.
I care not about 40 times. It has nothing to do with football speed.
Ooof....God he's slow.
*Pinches nose* Fair enough.
It's a matter of an attack on a person representing a thing.
You don't boo Goodell. It's acting without class.
If YOU attack ME, of course I...
Clearly. And clearly a different level of cognition.
I don't know you. I have no idea what you are saying other than what you say.
You don't boo Goodell because it's an ingorant thing to do.
You don't have any class at all.
I told you guys harbaugh would go to SF. I told you that the Dolphins would not take a QB..
I don't know..I guess I'm just a ****ing mystic.
My wife knows a football from a flower.
No idea. I just invited her to watch and she fixated on certain things.
I don't take that route at #15.
(When Godell came up for the opening)
-Oh...Nobody likes him. That's rude. They shouldn't do that.-
-He's nice. He never...
Games. It's all just BS. There will be a season.
Troll post is trolling.
Did anyone forget we drafted Scott Mitchell?
**** all...We got what we needed.
Not with Soprano fighting for his job.
I love the pick.
I dont' trust anything GM IReland says publicly.
In terms of getting a deal done, I meant.
I take it you think Mallett is the goods?
There comes a point where you accept, for whatever reason, the team that wears your colors can't
hold onto the ball. I realized after I got so...
What of the listed points are not arguable one way or the other?
People that win don't need excuses...People that don't win, do need excuses.
He and I share the same sense of humor regarding
"visualization" of things. I think he's remarkably smart.
It's not so much that I'd go point to...
There's grains and nuggets of truth in every argument.
But, excuse machine sounds like excuse machine.
This is my deep seated belief on things. I think you should show up to work
when you are "sick". Most people that call in "sick" are not "sick"....
In that case, disregard all my previous moral outrage.
An agent for the player is full on TRUTH man..I mean..No question that a guy who's
living depends on the player in question rushes forth with a...
Crank up the excuse machine.
As Dan LeBetard says; I imagine it to be one of those old clunky tin boxes
that you crank a lever on and, it...
KC was overpowering us. I remember one dumbass announcer that mentioned our NT being a "PRO BOWLER that just got bulldozed 5 yards down the...
I want my QB to show up hurt if he's hurt.
What's a good way to show you'll play through it?
Show up dinged (Not hungover, etc) and toes to...
It's actually not.
Well, no more than the Sr. Bowl, the 40...225 repetitions....etc.
Police departments, and I'd venture to say...
Try the fumble agaisnt the Chefs that resulted in an entire turn around of the game.
I remember THAT fumble being when I washed my hands of...
My wife and I watch Dolphins games together now that I've matured enough not to be
throwing things through windows.
The first thing we both...
These sorts of things are usually not just dreamed up by an organization internally.
When I took a pre interview for the Austin PD I was made...
Sammie Smith can eat *****.
I mean in terms of getting a deal done.
Free agency can still, and will happen. Just not on the traditional timeline.
The one thing I am absolutely certain of is that we will not take a QB with the #1.
It shouldn't. Nothing was going to happen until the draft anyways.
There's just no motivation on either party's part to get a deal done until...
It's all gamesmanship to re sign him at a lower price.
And? He's such a vital cog to GB that they are letting him go.
Well, after the way people talked about him why should he think differently?
We're a classy fanbase, right?
We're the Jets or the Dolphins. Our posts unveil us.
You gave me goosebumps. No ****.
I don't like guys being all up in my head.
You can break things down to componant atoms.
At the end of the day, a leader is undfinable.
Your breakdown of leadership is pretty ****ing...
You comparing a leader to a Taco Bell employee shows how little you understand what you are
talking about. I mean ""leader" in the sense of...
He's an upgrade, but you have to be on the field.
You can learn the nuts and bolts and theory of leadershinp.
You don't learn how to BE a leader out of a book.
CK...You are a leader. There really isn't a question about it. You've carved yoruself out a niche through your own effort.
You can't tell me you...
I dunno how it is in sports past HS level, but you are a leader or you aren't.
Lots of people fancy themselves leaders.
Newton has been...
Well if he was with the Jets, then he's a traitor, right?
Bryan Cox is the biggest badass in Dolphins history, and
guess what? He coached for...
So what's your contention then?
In that case, like in Welker's.....We weren't the first team to release him.
Funny how SD never takes any heat about releasing Welker.
Lulz. If Nicknames translated into wins we'd rule this mother. Thigpen is a nice backup. That's all. He had his chance, and, he sucked too.
Not during a strike.
You understand the basic concept of not getting a paycheck if you don't
work for it, right?
We need to have at least that...
Lots of people live in 1985. I see that now.
None of those factors pay into player's checks.
Dunno if you noticed, or were even alive in 1987...But times are different.
I'm not aware of any such arraingment.
Under US labor law employers have the right to carry on boing business, and, the union has a right to...
He couldn't handle college level courses without cheating?
Sound reasonable to you?
Ha ha! Make an assertion and back away from it.
Textbook race baiting.
Great job, really.
Vick wasn't a Pro Bowl player?
Stop race baiting.
QBs intelligence gets questioned all the time. Not just with black QBs.
You're just hyper sensitive.
Just so I'm straight on your contention; It's impossible to replace guys that play a game for a living? It's hard to replace them?
First thing to remember about any job; ANYONE can be replaced.
Would the NFL be on the same level if players replaced the ones currently
Of course. That's what a spokesman does.
You have to show strength no matter what.
IT's the famed "Will Allen/Troy Palamalu" argument.
The Stadium is generating income for it's owners.
We're just the organization to do something that dumb.
Funny how some people detest "fake" wrestling but will totally be all in
at a Steven Segal or Bruce Willis movie enjoying it for what it is....
Three threads? Really?
He was carrying a firearm in a nightclub where booze is the primary
money maker. It's against the law and a bad idea. Thank GOD he just
If he'd like to come in for a look, bring him on in.
Hopefully he's gotten rid of knucklehead disease.
If they don't understand by now, they never will.
McDonalds didn't get to be the biggest fast food chain and remain there because nobody likes
to eat there. Funny, but almost nobody you...
Funny how people act like there was never sensational media
or yellow journalism.
Greatness=The inability to tell the story of football without the person mentioned being in it.
He knows that he's in the catbird seat right now.
He will be until players start losing game checks.
The owners will be able to function as the...
I think Newton is better because he's bigger.
Of course, that's like saying "Bad" is better than "worse".
Nobody's 4th string corner is going to be a world beater.
If he can't play, they'll cut him.
Probably none, unless you're talking about headhunters representing video editing companies.
Oh sure. I don't care if he can't spell "cat" spotted the C and T. If he can digest a playbook, thats
all I care about as well. Problem is; It...
Sure it's by choice. Getting the pee-waddle knocked out of him in the Pitt game
probably convinced him that one of the best aspects of his game...
Pat White was accurate in college too.
He's currently not even playing football.
Not a commentary on you, but you make your point poorly.
IMO it points to him aggressively taking the easy way out of tough situations,
of which there will be many in the NFL. If he can't handle college...
Your link-fu is weak.
Unless you've got a top 5 or so player at their position I think
you should always try to bring in options for a look. I don't know that
Because neither side wants a long term deal. It doesn't do anyone any good.
Changing ecenomics and "size of the pie" issues will come up, and,...
The place sorta looks like a "Bleacher Report" type endeavor, only for all types of news.
Not that this event didn't happen, but *Meh* Grain of...
Then again, Henne might NOT be better than we think.
Happens in collective bargaining all the time.
Once you forget about this being the NFL, it's pretty clear in terms of negotations.
I've seen the process go on literally hundreds of time....
There can't be unless both sides agree to it. That's why it's called "Collective" bargaining.
The owners and players have to agree to terms,...
Dilfer said very similar things about Russell
Funny how it's not racist to use any of the words like "lacks football IQ" or "Lacks work ethic"
for white QBs, but it is to use it for black...
Congrats man. AS is the man. I think just about all of us were rooting for you guys.
Well, I'm just saying that if we can't get a deal done. I think it's probably more wise
to get a reasonable deal done, but, who knows if PS is...
Great! That should set us at DE and CB at least. Franchise Soliai and that will take care of DT. OLB/ILB
are alright. If we can get a deal...
Oh, ok. I thought it was some new or profound fact. I completely agree with you for
the most part, and I think that....*HOPEFULLY* when the...
Either way, with or without him we're going to have that...Unless you think
he's going to come in and dominate right away....But again, since...
Lol..Wow! Well, with all these other teams thinking so much of
him we can stop with the talk of drafting him since he won't be there
So let me get this straight; You think Dan Henning was a top 5 offensive mind
in the NFL?
More likely he can sit over on the bench with Gholston.
Ok. It's going to be a long offseason..What more is there?
Yeah, I don't think you can have a SB in a city that's lost two NFL teams due
to lack of support.
It's not THAT good. You can see where the edits are made. Like when he's got the ball going in
fairly flat arc, and, then, all of a sudden it...
No noted discipline issues. Those cans are PLAYMAKERS!
Well, the plates were moving laterally to the LOS, and were closer.
A compelling product to go see there?
Just personal preference. Crabtree is a beast, and if he had a QB worth a dang he'd be tearing it up.
I think both of those guys bring more...
Better hands. Let's bring 'em in for a look.
In March of.......I'm wanting to say '04 or '05 There was a massive storm that dumped snow and
ice all over N Texas.....Heck, all the way down to...
Well, North TX gets two to three of those type storms a year. It's not
that out of the ordinary. Yes, I agree it was a freak occurance that it...
I think a few of them are legit, but most of them are fake.
Notice how on a great many of those the ball inexplicably in
mid air changes flight angles dramaticly?
LOL! Well, cool. Any money the stadium can generate is good.
Well, in fairness, lots of those prices were for the Superbowl.
If you go to that monster, you're going to pay out the nose, so
you might as well...
When was the last 1K yard playmaker we signed via FA? Last one of any worth I can think
of is Davone Bess. No...two 2nds was a fair price for...
*Sigh* It's going to take a new venue to get the Super Bowl back down here Ross....
The NFL would rather have workers getting hit by ice, and,...
I would not object to franchise tagging PS. I have mighty doubt that he's got his act together,
but if he can put two seasons together, you sort...
I'd disagree on VJax, but I'll give you Jackson too. Some of these are debatable, and, I
don't meant o be downing Marshall. He's the one solid...
You create a hole if Marshall is not here.
The three previously mentioned plus D Bryant and H Knicks. Probably Crabtree too.
People don't stay in the same jobs their entire careers....At least
I haven't, don't know about you. Dorrell could well be great at the
Fat, unmotivated undearachiever for 3.5 seasons. Productive for .5 seasons.
The .5 being in a contract year.....
Man, I hope I'm not the only...
I meant that I wished him well in fighting his personal demons (addiction).
My comment about karmha was regarding some...
That guy just screams "Played for a big contract."
I think he's a big *** risk.
He's pretty much exactly the guy we got from Denver, and well worth it.
We all knew he was going to be a little bit of a load discipline wise,...
Well, Bess was a UDFA, and Wake from the CFL UFA. So...
take those out and it's not quite as impressive...Though for our
drafts, it's still...
I wish him well. Fighting demons is never easy.
That being said; There's some pretty nasty karmah going on around here.
I don't consider the Titans the Oilers, nor the Ravens the Browns. They are the Cleveland Browns. They've been around a minute or two. I was...
Well, I don't think we're trading Bess. I'd still do a 2nd for Bess any day. C'mon...We gave up two 2nds for B Marsh and you'd ask a 1st for...
Ah. It was a joke? Funny. Sorry I cared.
mmmm...Dunno if I'd go that far, but he's definitly a damn good OC
LMAO@ Scott Schwedes. I think that guy needed Oxygen after he ran that one back. No, you're right on that too.
lol..Didn't need stats to tell me Dan didn't have a D and running game..I watched it :)
I thought it was a pretty good game really. It played out like I thought it would when GB lost nearly thier entire secondary.
Lol..They were TERRIBLE.
No kidding. Some people think it's acceptable. That's crazy
Those new guy browns and them new fangled Unis....
Every team in the NFL is capable of beating any other.
Mularkey too. Everyone's an idiot until they win.
Lol...Wait a second..After 6 or 7 years of success, only then will you give a HC credit?
I know...but still..Rogers played GREAT in the game he lost previous..Better than in the games that he won this year! He's a fine QB, and, is...
It's not a matter of sheer numbers of rings to GB fans I think. It's about the QB. I think they must love the guy right now.
I know I do.
I love that guy....But his stance on Rogers was absolutely silly and unsupportable. Now it's proven, and
I know CC is going to eat some crow...
That guys' taken so much BS in his career...I'm glad he got himself a ring. Wash that Farve right out of your hair.
That's my point. You need to win, and, tradition breeds trust, trust breeds tradition.
For instance..The 82nd. It's a proud unit with a fine...
When I see a GM give up a second for Bess, I'm on board. Until then, I'm not. I'd make the trade if it were offered...You wouldn't, and, I...
Well, that would be roughly every single one of them right now, until evidence shows otherwise.
ETA; Ireland. Ok. You're right. He'd give up...
Well it is dead on fact. You can't name me one GM that's going to give up a 2nd for Bess.
I know this isn't going to help, but all you can do is do the best you can for him while he's here, then ruck up, chamber a round and drive on....
When they do it for Bess, call me. Until then you've got nothing.
I wish I could thank myself.
Name me one GM that would give up a 2nd for Bess. You can't because none would. That tells you the comparitive value.
I hope I didn't instigate or do anything. I tend to be a dissenting voice, but I always try to be civil.
The defense is the one aspect of the team I have confidence in.
All with having nearly nothing to do with it.
Value is value. You can find slot recievers regularly. We've managed to do it.
If you turn over a UDFA for a 2nd ... You win. Bottom line.
"They suck worse than us" is no way to run a franchise.
As I said; THIS organization? You keep Bess, because you are totally incapable of finding talent in the 2nd round.
a 2nd round pick has value...
When you can prove to me BR raped one of those girls I'll make that sort of claim.
The last one is the only one that even remotely sounds like...
Is he one? You don't know. It hasn't been proven civily or criminally.
Pittsburgh is actually a great American city. It's lots like Chicago in many ways. It's recycled itself and come full circle in my lifetime....
Hakeem Nicks sold me watching that competition last year. It was openly amazing to hear the ball hit his hands and watch him be freinds with the...
I don't remember Rivers being as much of a D bag.
I never said that it hasn't. He is certainly an improvement. But at the same time, you have to look at some things that are bothersome. And...
I'm not captain racism, nor do I call it all the time....But right is right, and, "Too hip hop"? I mean..Come on.
Everyone knows what that means.
I think Cameron is fine at his job as OC. There's no shame in it. He's one of the best in the world at what he does. But, an HC is a leader of...
I think the baseline that was built simply with the coaching change coupled with the easy schedule, coupled with the team simply not capable of...
Thank you. I wish I could give you 5 fist pumps for that. It's succinct, efficient and completely descriptive.
Do you buy stock high and sell it low?
Look, I love Bess, and, he has a great ammount of value, but just as we found Welker, and, we found Bess,...
Blind squirrels and nuts. It bought Sparano his time, and, I am always for keeping a coach in place for four years, no matter what the sport.
Mediocity isn't enough for me to buy in. It may be good for you, but regular third out of four teams doesn't work for me.
I would agree with that if we'd shown any indications that we are capable of building a team that can do better than 3rd place.
I agreed with about 3/4 of that post :)
We're unable to find a QB that can run the offense, and, unable to find an offense that makes any sense (PA on third and long isn't fooling anyone)
A 2nd rounder can bring more upside to the table than Bess...Now, with THIS organization..You're right. If I was THIS organization, I keep Bess....
We've got our own FA issues. Not only that, the Jets have shown they are shrewd in signing FAs...They've clearly out performed us, no matter our...
Well, I don't know if it's "fluff"...I think that's impossible on a messageboard.....This is just a bad time of year, and, don't look for it to...
The organization is pretty much rudderless. I love your post and the sunshine you spread over the place, but...... The organization stinks, and,...
"The war" I think is the proper term. I was just making an allegory.
No need to be snippy.
Ok...What about Mike Tomlin "Seems" "Too hip hop" to you?
You know I'm right, but you just won't say it.
The organization has been run poorly. Ross is trying, and, I give him credit for that....But, he's going about it the wrong way, IMO.
Correct. I know of no other area where people are expected to blindly follow than sports.
I love my team, but until they show me they are...
Every coach has a winning attitude. Think about it. You've risen to the top of a profession
that has 32 positions availiable, worldwide.
In what context is "Too Hip hop" acceptable or descriptive? What about Tomlin looks "Hip hop" to you?
He was an UDFA. You can find those guys. I'm not suggesting he doesn't have value.....And I'm as attached to him as I am any Dolphin. I love...
Peyton Manning IS the Colts. It's not a question of value. Bess, as great of a player as he's been for us, if we can make a 2nd rounder in...
Different generations BK. Different generations. When you sever traditional bonds (OB) and the older fans gradually attrit away....You get what...
We had no choice but to trade Welker. You must not remember the situation.
A 2nd round draft pick for the investment and thusfar return for a...
I wasn't trying to be politically correct. Code doesn't work that way and you know it.
Look at Tomlin on the sidelines. Does he look "Too hip...
When there are other options that provide more entertainment value in an area, it's hard to draw to a poor product.
Would you rather live in...
I'd hate to see Bess go, as he is my favorite current dolphin, but if we could get a 2nd for him, you have to make that trade all day.
I think "Too hip hop" is code for "Too black"
Just goes to show you it doesn't matter if you think negatively or positivly, glass empty or full,
it doesn't make a damn bit of difference.
Sure. Any football fan should be watching the superbowl.
"Green light to spend"
"Green light to throw money in the trash"
are two different things.
I just don't see the Steelers beating the Pack on a fast track.
I'm terrible at score predicting, but I don't think it's going to be close.
A 5th and a 4th.
Hasn't Marino blasted him before too? I know he's come out in support, but honestly
Dan isn't that great as far and analysis goes...He's not...
I'm psycic. No...Seriously. Watch this....
I predict, the next excuse for Henne will beeeeeeeeee.......
A NEW OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR!
I'll give you a fourth.
You don't give up first rounders for O line guys unless they are named "Munoz" and the play OLT.
He'd be a great pickup but I just don't see it happening.
My opinion? He's mentally weak.
He runs by his own barometer and can't be lead, nor directed. He's just his own dude, which
is fine, until...
Well, young soldiers learn.
It's a question if they can learn "enough" to keep them alive.
I could not possibly care less about who's hired as a...
Miami sports fans don't demand much in the way of journalism.
I mean, Armando is miles better than Omar...Who can't even spell or use common...
Oh absolutely. From the players I buy a service. However, they, nor anyone else has
any right to tell me what's right and moral in terms of how...
If I turn 9 million dollars a year profit out of any business, I'm good to go. "Profit" is money that's cleared
after everything is figgured out....
Meh....Solid 6. I'd hit it.
And he is in no way taking the blame for anything there, no matter what he "said".
He should be happy he's getting less carries. Didn't he quit once because he got too many?
Allen gets a pass because he was not as traumatic as Ginn.
I have no fundamental disagreement.
He's got about 8 games to get it rewired though, and don't think everyone doesn't know it.
Lets go further Ozy...What's "Fair" to you. Please tell me what's
"fair" as you decide other people's lives and incomes.
Now, as you do it,...
Sure I would.
Everyone else has gotten this before me, why not me? Why stop with me? Why
start "Social justice" (Amongst...
Just keep in mind....Everyone agrees rookies should get **** on. Well yes..That makes sense. Lets limit rookies. They shouldn't make as much...
Sure. As long as they did it year, after year, after year, after year. And I could eventually sell the loan for three or four times it's face to...
So GB returned a profit.
No owner in the NFL is counting on a team to be his sole revenure source.
Make no mistake..All this BS is about is...
Marty had inherant flaws that can't be ignored. Look..I've got no issue with you. You understand what I'm talking about and aren't
Granted. You make points...However....Young players without any sort of solid base?
That's a company you would invest in?
Here we go. You understand.
Less than more. All the variables so far point to less.
I've given you an answer. You chose to ignore it.
If you loan out money to a guy and he doesn't pay you back 2 out of three times, are you more or less
pessemistic he'll pay you back the fourth time?
Fair enough brother. You don't have to subscribe to my views. Don't start none, won't be none, as they say.
People engage in value and...
Tony can win games. That much I will grant.
Can you tell me how two of his three seasons have resulted?
Just a hint....If you punch...
And we still can't compare to the Jets or the Pats.
Sooo...What a fantastic organization in place. Certainly reason to belive, yes?
I completely get the reasoning. But man...Come on.
We HAVE a base. It's made of sand. Sparano is out as soon as the
season is over if he...
You understand we hired the guy that ran one of the two worse offenses than us to improve our offense, right?
If you, as a manager of X...
You're a reasonable man. I know. I read your stuff...But I know you have a passionate side, because I saw you go off
Do you have...
Way to toss around straw men.
What are you even talking about?
Lame duck HC who the owner openly tried to replace.
If the store doesn't turn a profit, and, the owner is openly
trying to replace the...
If you can offer me any reason to rationally believe next year will be better
than this year, other than complete speculation, I'll listen....
Only Daboll holds the secrets that are one of the worse offenses than Miami last year.
A real life whole true blue fan card? Is it the one that has all your cool "Fan creds" on it?
Man, that sucker is HOT! I wish I was as...
Nah. I'll hang around. Just like I did after our season was over this year.
Get some perspective dude.
Is this where we start the "YOU'RE...
You can't rate players like that. "IF" Tony Mandrich wouldn't have been using steroids, etc.
What's happened is all that's relevant.
Also...You DO understand the frainchise holds value. The revenue stream is different. If X holds Y value, and, Y value holds at Z % growth while...
Hold on. Where do the numbers you talk about come from? If owners were taking a net loss they wouldn't own. Nobody would.+
I don't go to a game to see Ross "Own his *** off"
Why shouldn't the labor make 2/3rds with owners still turning profit?
What's clear is the owners aren't satisfied with their piece of the pie, nor are the players.
If the owners make 2% profit it's still net profit....
Honestly, I can only hope we draft motivated on the best player. Not motivated by keeping a job..Which is all Tony's doing this
This is my thing...There are certain things I want from players as a primary skill.
I want TEs to catch the ball.
I want CBs to defense passes....
LMAO! No ****, right?!
You own an NFL team because you WANT to...Not as an investment....But you still have to make money.
To guys like Ross, ego is a pretty huge...
I have little sympathy for both sides that want to kill the golden goose.
Screw it. I don't care. If the NFL goes away, there...
All we can do is laugh. Next season is already over.
Not to mention you limit how much a player can make. That's BS. I don't want anyone telling ME how
much I should make.
If I own an asset...That I paid for, I should be able to collect what I can on it.......
That's just me though. I'm not about giving my money to...
You have to. The situations is collectively bargained.
He wasn't even ever the highest paid WR on the team....Cept for his rookie year. If we're doing value/production ratios, he returned
Ginn wasn't making that much. Actually, he was a bargain.
I didn't...lol. I'm a bad sports fan.
Crap. I didn't know. lol
Dunno. Don't honestly care at this point. I wouldn't be opposed to giving Nolan
another shot if he's in the running. It's not like anyone else...
Ahhhhhhyup. It's not *****ing and complaining, or anything else other than following every signpost
that's come up so far. Every one of them...
What football folks SAY and what they DO are completely different things lots of times. 'Specially Ireland.
Wish nothing but the best for Will.
Well, everyone's got to start somewhere.
I don't begrudge any of them, and I hope they do well.....But the way I suspect
it's going to go is...
Or no better options.
Yeah...I mean, if you wrote something you'd want someone to give you credit...
But Crash was a great one.
Walterfootball.com has us taking Newton, FWIW
At the end of the day there is no other choice but wait and see. My opinion and your opinion
means jack crap. The die is cast, and, we'll have...
So you believe it's fine for an executive with one company to offer professional advice
to an executive of another company who is in direct...
What did you expect him to say? Did you expect him to lay out his whole offense?
If he's smart, and god I hope he is....You won't get a sniff...
This is my thing too. People tend to improve in their careers as they do it more. Not all the time, but most of the time.
Now, I don't like...
Anyone seriously believe we're getting Bryant?
He is. Hard to sell spoiled milk for more money than you sold it for yesterday.
I wouldn't mind Childress at all.
The Razor doesn't dictate what you think it dictates.
They do bring in players to work out as potential replacements right? Why not the same deal with HC?
Why would you even post this? I mean, seriously. You bring down the whole forum by
doing this. It's not even February. I could see it then....
There was a game against Buffalo, when the "K-Gun" was TRUCKING everyone...and I mean EVERYONE. Tom Olivadotti, of all people developed a
Tony's playing for his job this year. His white knight is gone, and, he's left with the sorry legacy Parcells left in terms of his relationship...
What happened the last time we got a hot shot college HC to run our team?
I'd also venture to say that Saban is better than Harbaugh.
I'm as skeptical hippo as most, but, what's said here makes sense to me.
Lets remember how much absolute BS and nonsense that was in the...
I'm happy for the guy. He's going to get paid, and, be out of Oakland.
Newton seems like he's got a little more going on up there.
I don't mean to be mean, but, you can listen to them speak
and it's pretty easy to...
When you dive off a cliff you're either "Grand Champion Of Everything*
*Stuff on a rock*
All depends on weather you dive into a...
Somehow we both knew he'd be with SF. Amazing.
Exactly. I don't know that VY isn't an upgrade over Henne.
He's gonna roll it on Henne?
I live in Cowboy land, and Dex is a playmaker, pure and simple. You won't find one Cowboy fan with one bad word to say about him...And
Clearly Ross doesn't want to pay people.
And there lays the poison that will lay the franchise dead for the next 5 years.
Moar links to hot chicks please.
I'll admit, Ross lost his cool. But, not every guy make sthe right choice all the time.
Who knows? He could have been monitoring this board...
Lulz. It's the point, isnt' it? Nobody knew Saban lied until........
No, Harbaugh will be different. We know...Why? Never mind. We...
It's that logic that men of reason want to avoid.
That's true. How do you see a coach? Tom Cable did a reasonably good job. And his players are firmly behind him.
Twitter beef. Jesus. The pointlessness.
I've had to relieve men of duty. It's never an easy thing. That's why you keep it private. No matter what he does at your door,
you give him...
Just remember all you chucklesheads who hate Ross, when he signs Harbaugh....
Damnit. We JUST went through this with Saban.
Hey, I respect that opinion too.
It's ruthless out here.
I'm used to a different process....And I think it's the more applicable...
It's not the same process. Public sector/Private sector.
You have to be much more transparant in the public sector.
I really don't mean...
Man, I guess you have it all figgured out. Should be no problem for you to own a team.
That explains it.
Yes, you guys do have lots of rules.
So you are the savior of .... Who? The Miami Dolphins?
Refer to me as you please. Your bank account does not have anything to do with...
I'm ok if we are wildcard. We're in the same division as the Pats. I don't think that's
a bad thing. We are in a very competetive...
Thank you. It's not like it's never happened.
Exactly. It's just business. Nothing personal.
Funny how this all steals everyone's cool.
I trust men in life that have done well.
Ross has done well. He has a track record of doing well.
Guys who claim the name of "Vinny" on a...
He's the boss.
He's a millionare.
He can do whatever the hell he wants.
Who are you to tell him how to run his business?
You and I come from different schools then. You never ever toss people under the bus. Never. You show a public face, and, you show a private...
Every business does.
Have you not been to college?
"Stock value" refers to consumers of your product. Happy consumers buy more, unhappy,...
You're so sure Ross betters the team with a totally unproven futures commodity?
What track record does Harbaugh have in the NFL? What, other...
Never forget, they had nothing to play for......Except thier pride......And it seems they have none.
They quit on them.
Did you not think NFL players were people?
There's no benefit in not revealing it.
Within this year.
I bet youre' wrong. I won't hold you to it though.
No way Harbaugh comes to Miami.
Why? I bet if Sparano has a winning season next year all this is over with.
It's a business. Same as any other. It's all about turning a profit, playing the futures market, and, raising stock value.
He's our HC next year. No doubt about it.
Sounds like Saban.
You're talking about a guy that gets guys that go to STANFORD to over-achieve.
There you go, useing real life examples again.
People, as I say, think the NFL is a fairy story, and not real life.
I took a job with...
I'm not trying to be a dick. Really.
If I wanted a cheerleader to be my coach, it would be "Brandi" from the Texans.
Last I looked, her names not "Harbaugh" nor does she want to...
And if you were "In the mix" wouldn't you fight as hard as you could for your job?
I know I would.
BTW...He's got a white...
He's in the catbird seat, and, he can caw down on whomever suits him at this point. It's what you do. You expliot
positions of strength. You...
No kidding. I mean, I can't blame Harbaugh if he takes our money.....But damn. I would be shocked....And disappointed, BTW.
This is assumeing what is reported is accurate.
Actually, it's not unheard of. It's the natural progression of things pointing towards a fireing.
Ugh. Nick Saban II...Here we come. Remember how much we all loved Nick Saban?
They were talking about San Jose when I was out there last. I has assumed it had made it that far south. I guess I remember the 101 differently....
There's no other way to to remain loyal.
Now, what you do after the curtain is drawn, is you let him know that he needs to retire, or
Regardless....He'll make more than he will as an assistant. Sure. We all know what's up. He hires
the lowball candidate because...He's...
I never had issues on the 101 at all. What? Harbaugh doesn't use BART? ;)
He got his position by loyalty. It's a trait he values, obviously. You NEVER throw
fellow management under the bus.
Actually, he's got a better chance than you might think.
I wouldn't work for Undead Al if I were an assistant...Unless he wanted to pay me a...
All of these things are a smoke screen..But as a guy who has had my hopes rise and fall on meetings, long ones are a
sign that a deal is there to...
Probably started somewhere right around the Feely trade.
Yep. For some reason people think that the NFL isn't real life. It's some sort of fairy story.
If I were Sparano, I'd hold onto my position...
We're fresh out of 2nd rounders.
It makes complete sense that the 9ers are the favorites. He's got a newborn, and
he gets to stay in the Bay area. Again, I don't know if you've...
You get rich by paying 1.00 for a 2.00 burger....Not 3.50 for a 2.00 burger.
That's why he's rich and we're not.
I've had enough of college coaches. No thanks. I'd just as soon keep Sparano or
give Nolan another whirl. No reason to pay a bust of an HC 7...
OL Coach, sure. I don't know if he'd accept the position though.
I'd venture to say that Sparano doesn't crave, nor need your respect. He's gotten to coach an NFL team. That's pretty darn good.
Ross is a...
Some of us were calling this with certainty a few days ago.
I'd love it. I'd take him in a hot second.
We've had one coach that was too loyal to bad assistants.
It cost Marino dearly.
Looking now. I'm off today and I've been listening online all day. They reported it back to back
hours that they were both retained. Don't...
ESPN reported earlier that both Sparano and Ireland were retained.
Right. I mean, of all people, Ricky....Nah. Like you, I forgave the betrayal, and I really
in lots of ways admire him...but he's spent is line...
Our meeting would be short. I don't think Tony's the sort of man that needs to get
coddled, or have smoke blown up his rear.
And Omar. My god. They gave the man a degree.
Now I just feel dirty. Thanks for that.
But I do agree with you. It makes absolute ZERO sense for HArbaugh to leave Standofrd for Michigan....
I'm going to serve you eviction papers to get you out of my head.
No kidding, right? I'm sure there's a great school or three in SOFLA if you can afford them.
I absolutely agree with this. No way is that guy going to MI.
To me, taking the SF job is a no brainer. I can't stand lots of things about CA, but, if you can make a mil or three, you
are an idiot to leave...
Clearly there are lots of factors. I settled in TX largely for the weather. Other things colored my choice....Gun laws...
No tax based on how...
Have you been to the BA? The weather is not like Miami at all. I've been to both places, and it's dissimilar in just about every way.
Cheerleaders are great on the sidelines in revealing clothing.
We don't need one running things.
Well, it's pretty much official Tony is staying on. I'll do without
another college coach. I'm fine with it.
Commas. It's the key right after the "M". You don't even have to shift to use it. I really do compliment your use of caps after periods, but...
I think unaffected. We're not going to hire RR, nor is any other pro team.
I think it messes up some that wanted Harbaugh....But I don't see...
You have to have some basis to believe. You can't just say "Here...Believe this" and expect men to follow you.
I'm all about leadership. I...
How can anyone take Ricky and his commitment to football seriously based on his history?
As many have said, the cat is interesting and,...
I sit here wondering what, other than being one of the best MLBs of all time is one Singletary's resume to be an HC.
Well. we now know that sparano is in for next year.
I think he won becaue Ross wasn't willing to toss out the good with the bad. Mark
Like Mc Nabb doesn't suck.
Well, lots of stuff is "Against the rules"...But it's gamesmanship.
I don't have any issue with "the wall". That's something I'd do.
Well, I mean..He's right. I try to maintain objectivity about sports in general,
but I've never seen the Rivers/Marino comparison. They are...
I didn't know thee was a "Devils" side to play in not signing Palmer.
Please god, no to Palmer.
You seriously don't think we can find another RB that can get us 750 yards?
Right now there's 26 other RBs in the NFL that can get us 750...
Omar does it all the time.
Who? I mean, don't name BS trade theories that include us bundleing up bad players for a great qb.
Please dude. Bad play calling is bad play calling. You don't call a PA pass when there is NO threat of the run. Please dude. Don't tell me you...
Well, there are some that need to be thrown under the bus. Henning, I really do think needs to be, just based on
just absurd play calling...I...
People should be killed? Really?
Were you just out of ways to express yourself other than to suggest death?
We signed the NFL's most (Well, perhapsthe most, we'll have to wait another game to see) pass rusher for pocket change.
I think, value wise?...
I think we're sort of stuck with him next year. I don't think we can give up just yet.....But, I don't see a better option.
Look at all the stuff you are asking for.
That would mean we're prety broken.
I think our defense is fine. I don't think a great deal needs...