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I'm curious to see which receiver gets the most targets, or if it will be very evenly spread out.
The article says that three of them were sending sexually explicit text messages to her, so if they have the text messages, it shouldn't be hard...
That's what I don't get. It looked like Moore saw him but he still gets blindsided.
Was just about to post this. Good article. Nice to see. At the very least, nobody can question Tannehill's toughness.
That means that we do not end seasons well, which everyone around hear knows all too well.
What exactly was the penalty here?
Jonas Gray time.
Tannehill is getting killed.
This is wild.
Just maybe? lol
Genius play call.
How is that not a flag?
I'm so glad that Miami has numbed me to their awfulness.
Poor Tannehill. Even Landry is failing him.
Atleast Landry is a stud.
Jennings is awesome...
I don't think he had three seconds on that play. I'm pretty sure it was shorter than that. It happened pretty quickly.
I think this isn't as big of a problem as it sounds. It's not like Wallace was catching five yard passes and taking them 60 yards to the house....
The crazy thing is that when I read some comments by Saints fans, a lot of them thought it was a steal for them. It's bizarre. Stills is very good.
According to Football Outsiders, Miami was the worst in the NFL.
I meant that the Jets defense is good. I agree that our defense is garbage.
This is a defense that held the Patriots to 17 points last week, and Brady to 182 yds 1td 1int. They're certainly not a bad defense.
I agree with your overall point but he is not having a better year than Romo. He's been fantastic this year.
Women have faces?
34 straight home wins against AFC opponents.
No way trusnik can keep up with Gronk.
Does Mike Wallace know that he has two hands?
Wow this turned out well.
What did he say?
I assume our plan was leaving the middle of the field wide open on every single play.
I only saw one replay of it, but I was absolutely shocked that he didn't even put his hands out. I've never seen an NFL wide receiver do that on a...
They have no quarterback! Why can't we stop the run?
Dan Marino lost 81 times in his career. I would not be surprised at all if he lost a game where the defense gave up 39.
How do you block someone? Seriously.
Wilson has been so bad in so many ways today
Actually one of the sacks was exactly like that. He almost didn't make contact with Williams.
He had that.
My favorite play of his was the play last week where he pump faked I think on a screen, and then threw a side arm laser to somebody. I can't...
I can't believe we drive down the field at the end of the first half, and then just let the clock run down without using our timeout until there...
He could always drop to 110.
Yeah. That seems like a small amount of money for a corner who wasn't bad last year and could improve.
Exactly. I mean I have no idea if this was a good idea but clearly it wasn't a panic move. My guess is that he has known for weeks that Soliai was...
It seems like they are trying to make up for a missed opportunity last year, even though Albert is no the best option on the market.
If it's for similar money I will be very disappointed in our front office.
I don't really have a problem with that. He completely blindsided the guy high. Yeah it looks awesome and I remember being pumped when it...
**** Incognito. How could he possibly think that this was good for the team?
Hopefully this helps Miami avoid any serious sanctions. The cover up is part of why the Saints were hit so hard during the...
I honestly had no idea who this mysterious fourth quarterback was. I need to beef up my knowledge of the early Dolphin years.
That way of thinking would be correct but that's not how he says it. He said, "Tannehill, Dan Marino and Bob Griese are the only quarterbacks the...
That was in the NFL. He was drafted by the Miami Dolphins in the AFL in the first round of the 1966 draft.
Rick Norton 1966!
I'd like to root for our new gm (even if his hire is less than inspiring) but it's really hard when everything I've heard is that he's a terrible...
I will not be giving anyone in Miami the benefit of the doubt. They lost that years ago. They need to prove to me that they know what they're doing.
How sad is it that Miami needs to find good starters at 80% of the offensive line. It can't really get much worse than this year's performance.
I'm curious why you feel this way. I personally don't feel strongly either way about Fisher.
This would be more satisfying to read if Miami hadn't been treading the path of mediocrity for years.
He probably lost speed from bulking up to try to be a runningback. Clearly did not work out.
Belichick has not been very good at acquiring talent. I live up in New England and the complaints about him are that he is a great coach but...
We still do. They're awful.
I don't want any offensive coordinators from teams with elite quarterbacks. I want someone who takes average talent and makes it perform at an...
We should also consider the level of competition that we played. Six of our games came against Thad Lewis and Geno Smith, Brandon Weeden, and Mike...
None of these names inspire confidence. If anything, they terrify me.
I don't think it's outrageous to grade the draft for it's contribution in its first year. It's not saying that they'll be bad in two or three...
Like crazy but I wouldn't be surprised if this is Foles' best season of his career. If it's not, then he'll go down as the greatest QB of all time.
It's great that he gets open but deep balls are not that high percentage if the WR isn't going to fight for it. Obviously Tannehill needs to start...
Patriots fans are spoiled. Only 3.6 losses per year? That's crazy.
Very rarely do you have a complaint about a player and have them specifically point it out as something they need to work on. It's refreshing.
Tannehill was not responsible for them getting injured. That's a bit disingenuous.
Thank you. That statement makes me think this person has no idea what they're talking about.
I'd say average is right. But he's only in his second year and I think he can be above average.
I'm in the same boat as you. I still remember a little bit of the 2001 playoff win against the Colts when I was 15.
lol Stay classy Buffalo
I turned it off. Let me know if we have a miracle comeback.
And that is that.
This is depressing.
Silver lining. Miami will have a better draft pick than the Jets lol
They miss a kick. And then 10 minutes later they are right in the exact same spot.
If they win, then Miami finishes behind them.
As much as I want to say our defense sucks, our offense has scored seven ****ing points.
Good thing we have our two stud FA linebackers to save the day.
It's hard to tell what is bad coaching and just bad players. There is a lot of crossover.
This offense is amazing. I wish i could see what was going on down field.
Good thing going now. Keep it up.
Better to be lucky than good! Good thing because we're not good.
Holy moly! It's fate!
That would have been a TD.
Is this defense designed to give up automatic yardage?
I'm going to have to turn this off. I'm not sure I can stand much more of this.
I'm not saying it wasn't, but it would be called if he'd go for it.
Wallace slips and instead of going towards the ball he waits. I really don't like him.
It would be a PI if Wallace would go up for it.
All we need to do is throw it up to Wallace and have him come back for it. Milliner never looks so it'll be a PI every time.
That was a pick. Didn't touch.
That was on Wallace.
That was a ****ing penalty.
2nd and 10 run for 1 yard. Where have I seen that before?
Wow that would have been bad.
No need to prep. It's happening right now.
Just our luck. Tannehill runs for 20 1/2 yards on 3rd and 21
About damn time! Nice
Good call. Way to make the third down easier.
This has not been enjoyable to watch.
Nice to see Rashad Jones just watching from a few feet away.
This defense has let them down big time. The offense just sucks but this defense blew it.
Wow that was a penalty on Wilson.
A field goal would be a victory at this point.
lol and they get the ball after half.
What is this defense doing?
We're a .500 level team. These are the types of games we play. Never easy.
I really hate this team sometimes.
Man our screens are ugly.
Passing windows were too big. Geno is not a good passer. Make him throw people open.
Nice job Defense.
That was close.
Defense is really letting them dictate play right now.
What's going on right now?
Unless we find out otherwise, I have to put the blame on Tannehill for that one.
Certainly has a clear to do list for this off-season.
And that is why underthrows are better.
Every ****ing time.
I like that he keeps his eyes down field but those are easy first downs if he runs.
That gets added to the run?
That's a great throw.
Gotta get that run game going.
I love the connection that Hartline and Tannehill have. That didn't work out but they're definitely on the same page.
I don't necessarily buy this logic. Bush was going to get expensive and, although Ireland traded for him, Jeff also had a replacement that he had...
I chose Ireland because I think he is the one capable of doing the most damage to the franchise.
Just because Ireland drafted a player doesn't mean he isn't willing to let them go if they are too expensive. He let Langford walk and he was...
That's awesome. Much better than a week 17 where half the games are meaningless.
Tom Brady was bad for years with throwing deep. It's not some impossible feat to improve.
I think he is purposely being obtuse at this point.
Excellent post. Sums it up nicely.
Wake is not a Pro Bowl-caliber player?
Are you related to Jeff Ireland? I don't have a problem with looking at things in context but he clearly has left major holes on this roster,...
He certainly can take a hit like few others. Tough as nails.
lol Thad Lewis has two career wins and they are both against Miami.
We lost because our offensive line is awful. Jeff Ireland is responsible for that.
That was a nice job escaping but he didn't even look before throwing it.
No way was there evidence to overturn that.
Exactly. This was a matter of their defensive line being way more talented than our offensive line.
Ireland will go down as the architect of one of the worst offensive lines in history. There's a feather in his cap.
Are you implying that Moore somehow magically makes his offensive lineman better?
Can we send Tannehill to the ice bath right now? No point in waiting. He is going to be feeling it in the morning.
Daniel Thomas is like an extra offensive lineman. A dolphins lineman that is.
And then tosses a terrible interception. What a stud.
Great effort by Soliai.
I don't care if they deserve to be in the playoffs or not. I want them in the playoffs.
But nobody completes passes on Phillip Wheeler!
If they lose enough wide receivers they'll have to run on every down.
Our line can't run block but also can't pass block. That's a problem.
This offseason Miami needs to find a kick/punt returner.
Thank god they didn't go for it. A QB sneak is almost a guaranteed first down with an inch to go.
It's tough to dominate another team when you don't have a good o-line.
We're down by three against an inferior time. Not the end of the world.
I can see their game plan. Run and toss bombs hoping to hit on a couple.
We shouldn't expect Daniel Thomas to completely hold off a tackle but that's two sacks right now on his watch.
I hate Daniel Thomas.
I was actually fine until I read this. Now I feel like throwing up. Thanks for that.
I have no idea what is happening in that red circle. lol
I completely agree. Sanchez was on a really good team but he was not good. He wasn't even close to where Tannehill is.
It was a nice defensive play call. Finally called something that would cut off that pass, which they were throwing all game.
They were tenth in scoring coming into this game so it says a lot that Tannehill was able to throw three touchdowns against them.
Definitely looks like a fake but I'm not sure it would have worked. Looks like the Pats covered it well.
Suck on my balls snitches!!!!!
Do we have a secondary?
They run free on these.
You hear that? "Loudest stadium they've been in all year!"
Play works everytime.
They would have called a timeout. It wouldn't have made a huge difference. You need to score in that situation.
They need a td though. You need to focus on scoring in that situation.
We hate throwing past the first down. Whatever works!
They hold every play.
I feel like it's the same three plays over and over.
How many times is that going to work?
A long TD to Wallace would have been a back breaker too.
If Grimes and Carroll are out, then we are screwed.
This defense confuses me.
Why play off if they're throwing it so quickly?
Why so far off?
Excellent play design.
It happened! A kicker missed against us!
Tannehill is fantastic at the end of halves.
Actually we're 14th in return average surprisingly.
Are we the worst team at returning kickoffs? I mean we can't be good. I feel like we never get past the 20.
Are you ****ing kidding me?
Something tells me we are going to be down 13-0 at halftime.
It's the new market inefficiency. Let other teams cover WR's with corners. We're thinking outside of the box.
What boring ****ing game.
That's much better than going for it.
Doing a Hartline impression.
Could he have caught that in bounds?
He needs to be careful when the ball is bouncing feet away.
This is so hilariously awkward. I cringe and laugh every time I watch it.
Who is inactive for New England?
Agreed. This argument has become ridiculous. It's straw man vs. straw man.
I'm not sure that that can be attributed to attention being paid to Wallace. TD's can be pretty fluky. I'd have to actually watch each of...
Football Outsiders has him at 65%.
Last year Hartline had a 56% catch rate and averaged 14.6 yards per catch. This year he has a 61% catch rate but only averages 12.8 yards per...
Pretty sure one of them posts on this forum....
The Patriots "Dynasty" has been over for years. You need to win Superbowls to have a dynasty and they haven't won since 2005. Division winners...
I was editing some papers and thought I'd help you out. Not really sure if I agree with you though. The difference between the great ones and the...
Let's look at it like this...
There are QB's that can throw a WR open or jam it in a tight window. For arguments sake I pick three,...
"Tom Brady decapitated. Gisele weeps at midfield."
That's for sure. Both are tied for sixth in the NFL in Football Outsiders' "defeats."...
That's just good PR on their part. They played that about as well as one can in that situation.
It's also interesting that they think Tannehill had a below average day passing when a lot of people around here think that it was his most...
Nothing mind blowing but there are a few tidbits...
Agreed. He's basically a wide receiver who is going to be covered by linebackers. He had 15 targets last week.
Which is why I'm glad Antonio Brown stepped out of bounds. I wouldn't trust the refs to change it when it was that close.
I think, at the very least, Miami will have an above average QB for the next decade (give or take). It not comes down to how far above average...
I can't really consider that a boneheaded INT. I mean Polamalu was literally lined up on the defensive line at the snap. It was a good play.
I agree. He has one elite talent, and that is the sideline catch.
I feel the same way. You never know with the refs.
Holy ****. When they said late hit I almost **** my pants.
I wouldn't necessarily call than an advantage. I mean Pitt can't make long field goals on that end either.
Kickers are 1/8 in the history of that stadium at 50 yard field goals on that end. I'd say our chances of getting two yards was better than making...
What a stupid idea attempting that field goal.
How are these not flags?
Boo ya !
This is where not having a powerful runner is going to hurt us.
I don't see any issues with Miller's ball security but he has very little power in his game. Miami is definitely lacking a back who can push the pile.
I think this is the problem right now with this discussion. We simply don't know enough. We hold it against Tannehill when he misses a throw but...
I'm starting them too. Geno Smith is a turnover machine. They are definitely going to score some points for you.
But if you thought that he would be a wasted signing before he was even signed, then I don't think it's outrageous to feel confident that he was a...
KB was right about Wallace. He is clearly a flawed receiver that isn't a great fit for this system.
He is 12th in passing yards. Tied for 8th in attempts.
Are you disputing a simple fact now?
He was drilled while throwing the ball 60 yards down field. That's why people aren't blaming him.
Your post reeks of extremism and bias.
I find it very humorous that Tannehill is being blamed for his throw being off considering that it was a 60 yard throw as he gets drilled by a...
Gotta love the consistency. If you can't be good you might as well be consistent.
Well then screw him for not doing that in Miami. He is one of my least favorite players I've seen in a Dolphins uniform. His lack of effort on...
He means that literally overthrowing him is worse than under throwing because an overthrow is an incomplete pass that was too far. An under throw...
We've got Charles Clay. He's all the YAC we need!
I find it very numbing. When they lose, I definitely feel it a little less than I used to. I've been trained to expect it. I still love to see...
It's hard to give too much credit for taking the top tackle with the number one pick. It's good that he picked the right guy but I think it takes...
I love the holier-than-thou attitude. Sports writers are the absolute worst when it comes to these types of things. They think that because they...
Why is Trusnik getting so much playing time? Is he not a back up on this team? I've never seen someone so unathletic on a football field. He is...
Gruden actually pointed this out during the game. He specifically said that Jerry looks back at Tannehill and it was helping the Bucs jump the snap.
Wallace, Wheeler, and Ellerbe. What a terrible off-season by Ireland.
Thigpen is an idiot. That's two bad plays on his part.
Nothing like starting a drive with a two yard loss
Good to see that they've taught Tannehill to never ever run the ball.
I'm glad on third and long we set up a pass four yards down field. I think wallace was the only option on that play.
Why is he even playing? Is he not a back up?
I haven't watched a pregame show in years. They just don't have anything interesting.
Obviously we don't know for sure, but Murtha's story seems a lot more plausible than Incognito extorting $15,000 from Martin.
I completely disagree with this statement. On that particular play he had nowhere to go. Geno was rushing slightly to Tannehill's left. Tannehill...
I agree that he needs to work on that but I don't think the Atkins sack is a great. I don't think a single quarterback in the NFL gets away from...
Well that pretty much settles it. Anything more and it's just the media having a field day with a "hot" topic.
How ridiculous does this all seem? You have this 300+ lb football player and he can't handle being called "Big Weirdo?" I really want to know what...
My responses in bold.
I'm glad somebody else noticed that too. That really annoyed me.
He definitely did. I noticed that too.
I think what he meant is that he can't run most of the routes effectively. Anyone can "run a full route tree." Even I can but obviously I can't do...
He is terrible in short yardage.
Gotta love Thomas. Guaranteed first down.
That looked like it was going to be a perfect throw.
Throw deep. Good things happen.
Miami is getting lucky tonight with these drops.
Great play design. Having another receiver cutting right in front of Hartline.
If Wallace had tried blocking that guy, Clay might have got the first.
He did not have time to throw it away.
Two third downs in a row to Hartline that the refs screwed us out of.
But Wallace hasn't been an upgrade. I guess you can make the argument that he has helped stretch the field for Miami but when the ball has been...
I think in some ways the fact that his numbers haven't gotten worse due to the protection, is evidence that he has improved at least a little bit....
Football Outsiders has Ginn ranked far ahead of Wallace. http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/wr
DVOA (rate Stat)
I was at the game. That direction was with the wind, although the wind came and went yesterday and was swirling often.
Mike Wallace was terrible yesterday. There were multiple plays where he didn't come back to the ball or fight for the ball. On the interception he...
I am really starting to dislike Wallace. He doesn't come back to the ball or fight for the ball, which led to multiple incompletions today. That...
It's really disappointing to see a thread about Tannehill dealing with pressure, turn into a pissing match with a Jets fan about how good Geno...
One positive to take away from this piece is that Tannehill can make throws without having to have a perfect pocket. I don't remember if it was...
It's easy to forget that Tannehill is still just a second-year...
Andy Reid of the 7-0 Kansas City Chiefs might disagree with you.
They couldn't have made this trade during the bye week? That would have helped some things.
Should be interesting though to see if they plan on...
I think he might be referring to Mario Williams in that last sentence.
Lol No, it's because he was being chased from behind.
He was not "stepping" up in the pocket. He was literally running up the pocket.
The first two are definitely on him but that fumble is not.
We'll still at mediocrity. If we lost next week, then we'll officially be sub-mediocre.
Who would have thought neglecting the offensive line might cost us a few games this year?
I think he is the clear GOAT of this game. He is god awful.
I've actually been pretty disappointed in him even with blocking. He runs with zero power. He does not push defenders back at all.
He was pretty bad in the actual games.
I think he looks really good in the video whenever he is given even a little time to pass. I would love to see him move out of the pocket a little...
It's pretty tough to definitively show that a quarterback was "broken." How does one prove that their failure wasn't just because of lack of ability?
I noticed that lol He must have a terrible view in that Dolphin head.
Exactly. What a waste of a timeout. What are the chances of converting on a 3rd and 14? Timeouts at this point of the game are crucial. Idiocy.
It should be overturned.
Agreed. I like him but he has no power. He barely moves people after initial contact.
My problem with the play call is that a qb sneak is an automatic first down. It was third and an inch. Even if Tannehill just ran into the line,...
His athleticism doesn't "pop" but he's definitely a smooth athlete when he pulls the ball down. I think his athleticism is comparable to Aaron...
I like the stoic coach who doesn't get too high or low. Relying on emotion can only last you so long.
Yep. This is what is happening to me. It's bull****. I didn't pay this money to watch the game at home on a 3 inch screen.
The NFL doesn't release what substance the player took so every player always says that it was something minor like that. I wouldn't trust them.
I think most people are dismissive of the idea of trading Hartline in-season for him.
The Browns are building for the future and are willing to trade a talented 22 yr old receiver. What does that tell you about Gordon?
It's a perfectly reasonable question and consistent with CK's way of thinking. He is all about opportunity cost and this is an interesting example...
I don't mind these rankings. If Miami proves itself, then it will climb up the rankings.
I have no doubt that he was looking at his legs but I'm not sure how somebody can state that he was staring directly at his knee the whole time....
I have no idea how you can say that with confidence. He could very easily be looking at his thigh.
I'm not sure how you can tell where his eyes are actually looking.
I've also rewatched it and the initial contact is not the knee. It's the...
Do we know what this "setback" is? Like what exactly constitutes a setback from a surgery like this and how serious is it?
Agreed. Credit scores don't take kindly to that type of thing.
Because it's about the accuracy of his passes. Batted passes are obviously important but they would skew the data that we are looking at.
That's just a badass line. I am very excited to see some deep bombs this season.
Same exact thing happened to me. When I discovered this site and realized that all of the posters had come over here I was so pumped. The club is...
I think #4 is clearly him not wanting to reveal important information. I assume that he doesn't want teams to get a good read on which players he...
I'm exited. I honestly don't know if Miami will be a better team record-wise but I fully expect them to be a more exciting team to watch.
That would be great but I think it would take both 2nd rounders to get it done. I doubt we could get back into the first and still keep our...
These are the types of options that a player like Tavon Austin would give Miami. This is what Ross has always wanted: a dynamic and exciting...
I doubt we get anything. We handed out multiple large contracts, which should offset any of our free agents.
I've always hated this saying. Even if the player ends up being a good draft choice, it ignores how long ten years actually is.
That's a good point. I always thought that the rule was illogical.
There were many highlights where he caught the ball with defenders in front of him and was then tackled by the first defender. You'd think that...
What scares me about him is that I saw him break two tackles and make one defender miss in a four and a half minute video.
I don't really agree with that. I find it hard to believe that Jeff Ireland called one team. There is zero advantage for Ireland to keep it quiet.
I'm not sure how demanding a trade would have caused us to get more in a Marshall trade. That would cost Miami leverage. How does that lead to...
That isn't true. They don't have to assign every pass a target.
I like it. Would really strengthen our defense and I'm a fan of Kelce. I assume this is with a Mike Wallace signing in mind.
Because that would help the Jets immensely and give us the highest paid cornerback in the NFL who just so happens to be coming off a torn ACL.
That's a good point. And he put up a whopping 510 yards. I guess it could happen for Gibson but it would be a severe overpay. It's great to try...
Yes but Hartline just put up a season where he put up just a little less than 400 more yards than Gibson. I'm not sure how any WR with a career...
I can't imagine any scenario where Gibson gets even close to 6 million a year. The last there seasons' yardage totals: 620, 432, 691.
Yes but we can't just take it for granted that he'll improve enough to be a good starter. I think it's perfectly logical to say that if he hadn't...
You can't eliminate his 80 yard play unless you eliminate any busted coverage plays for all wide receivers. Otherwise you're taking away 80 yards...
If we get a stud tight end then I'm OK with it but if you include tight end in this poll then I would be dissappointed.
Here is a breakdown by Football Outsiders of a few of the free agent tackles including Jake Long. It's not CK-depth but I still found it...
That's because Flacco never got hurt. I assure you that if he had been hurt, and their back up bombed in the playoffs, you would know his name.
Extrapolate to a full season and it is 72 catches for 1061 yards and 8 tds.
True but it would make it easier to get rid of some of our other picks to move up.
This simply isn't true. in 96' and 97' (the only years I can access in their database) they had him ranked #1 in the NFL....