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Dez Bryant to Dolphins? Bwaaahhaaahhaaa

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  1. dolfan7171

    dolfan7171 Well-Known Member

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    I know a lot of people here believes Dez Bryant would be a good pick for Miami. Check this blog I found. It has some interesting information that you may want to read about.

    Dez Bryant
     
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  2. gunn34

    gunn34 I miss Don & Dan

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    I too think we pass.
     
  3. greasyObnoxious

    greasyObnoxious New Member

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    i really don't think Bryant has a lot leverage. Crabtree played a heck of a year before heading to the draft. Bryant didn't play at all.

    to top things off, i don't think there will be another WR drafted before Bryant, which were Crabtree's qualms iirc.
     
  4. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    I don't think his agent will have much to do with it. In Baseball, with Scott Boras, people have avoided his clients on principal alone. I could be wrong but I haven't seen the same thing in the NFL, especially with there being a salary cap.

    We may end up passing on Bryant, but I doubt that will have much to do with the decision... Armando is bored.
     
  5. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    I don't know what was "In Depth" about that particular piece. Talk about generalizing. Just because that happened with Crabtree doesn't mean that there is even a likelihood of a holdout.
     
  6. JimToss

    JimToss Thank You Chad Pennington

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    Armando is a clown.

    We may not draft Bryant, but I would doubt it would be due to an agent. If the Trifecta wants Bryant, we will have Bryant. Plus Parker left that whole ordeal with a chapped ***.
     
  7. FaninPatsyLand

    FaninPatsyLand The Truth

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    I believe the entire Dolphin fan base would have to question the competence of the front office in general if they let the selection of an agent cloud the process of drafting the best talent available based on our schemes and needs.

    The logic in that article is so far off-base that its scary to even consider.
     
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  8. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    Well, I do know one of the things they liked about Jake Long was the fact that he agreed to the contract early. Obiviously all indications were that he was their #1 guy to begin with, but had the talks not been smooth who knows what would have happened.

    I agree with you though. An agent should not come into play regarding player selection.
     
  9. azfinfanmang

    azfinfanmang Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Arm And O-
    Bwaaaahhaahhaaa.
    That's your source?
    Bwaaaahhaahhaaa......
     
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  10. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    Suspended for most of the 2009 season? What did he do?
     
  11. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    http://www.sportingnews.com/college...on-ends-season-for-oklahoma-states-dez-bryant

    It was a pretty stupid reason to be suspended, IMO. I wouldn't hold it against him, but that's just me.
     
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  12. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    Yeah, they said it wasn't the fact he met with Deion, but the fact that he lied to the NCAA.

    It's tantamount to me lying to my girlfriend about being out drinking with the guys until 2 AM, and her not upset about the drinking, only the lying, and refusing to have sex with me for a year.
     
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  13. azfinfanmang

    azfinfanmang Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Wow bummer :pity:
    Could be worse I guess.
    Could be a Raider fan :up:
     
  14. Muck

    Muck Throwback Uniform Crusader Retired Administrator

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    Question away.

    Like it or not, the agent absolutely plays a part in the decision. And Miami isn't the only team who operates this way.

    The best available player doesn't do you much good if he's sitting at home.
     
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  15. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Which I really don't care about... the dude is young, probably just got scared and lied about it. It's something that everyone does, I just don't think the punishment was necessary.

    To me, I just think... Brandon Spikes tried to gouge someone's eyes... NCAA doesn't do ****. Dez Bryant lies about meeting with Deon Sanders, a calender year suspension?
     
  16. azfinfanmang

    azfinfanmang Premium Member Luxury Box

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    This exactly.
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    Bryant paid way too heavy a price for something petty IMO.
    Hell, Reggie Bush was taking LOTS of money from boosters yet.....nothing.
     
  17. FaninPatsyLand

    FaninPatsyLand The Truth

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    If Bryant really is the guy they're targeting at #12 overall and he's sitting there in April with Miami on the clock, do you believe the front office would pass on him based soley on his choice of agents? Because that's what Armando is implying in this article.

    No one is debating that the agent and the eventual contract demands aren't factored into the equation. But ultimately if he's your guy, and graded out as the best player left on the board at a "need" position, I couldn't envision a scenario where the front office passes on him because of his agent.

    Baseball? Yes. Football? I don't see a precedent to make that leap. Maybe there have been instances that simply weren't reported, but I'd be very disappointed in the front office if that's the approach they bring to the draft.
     
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  18. FinsAreLife

    FinsAreLife Well-Known Member

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    just a bad move on Dez's part really. He's already in a bad spot because he missed pretty much the whole season.
     
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  19. Xeticus

    Xeticus Junior Member

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    Deion also has Eugene Parker as an agent. Seems like Parker has been trying to get his claws into Bryant for awhile.

    Honestly there is enough reason to be concerned. Kid would have to really impress the FO in the interview room to have a shot at being drafted by them. Parcell's doesn't like drafting WR's in round one anyway. Much less ones who have a agent who's prone to holdouts.

    This current front office places great value on having draft picks signed early and in camp. It's a priority for them. If they like a kid but think there's a good chance he might hold out or miss training camp they will probably pass on him I think.

    Dez Bryant signing with Eugene Parker will affect how the FO looks at him. The fact that Bryant did so after what happened with Crabtree makes me want him less when there are other good options out there.
     
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  20. azfinfanmang

    azfinfanmang Premium Member Luxury Box

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    I think it ALL hinges on exactly who all is there at 12.
    Honestly won't surprise me at all either way.
    For what its worth, he is very very high on my draft wish list.
     
  21. The G Man

    The G Man Git 'r doooonnne!!!

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    Don't know why some are knocking Armando's article. He gave three valid reasons why the Trifecta likely would not draft Bryant.

    1) Limited playing time during his collegiate career (28 games).

    2) The suspension (i.e., possible character issues). And, no I'm not debating whether or not the NCAA sould've or shouldn't have suspended him.

    3) His agent being the same as Crabtree's. Therefore, a potentially difficult negotiation and possible holdout situation. Like it or not, agents do get a rep (one way or the other). And, it does influence a team's way of looking at the player they represent.

    Add to that what Xeticus said about Parcells history of not drafting WR's in the first round, and honestly...it ain't looking very likely that they draft him (assuming he's still there at #12).

    JMHO...
     
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  22. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Starting 28 games isn't really limited playing time.
     
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  23. The G Man

    The G Man Git 'r doooonnne!!!

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    Maybe. Maybe not. But, my point was really that Armando gave multiple reasons to support his position. Whereas several posters seemed to focus solely on the agent issue.

    Having said that, IIRC Parcells has a history of not drafting underclassmen. I know I heard that with regard to his drafting of QB's.
     
  24. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    What about Ireland though?

    Davis - JR
    Sean Smith - redshirt JR
    Hartline - JR

    Playing time is important, but so is talent.
     
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  25. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    they are going to draft the players they think are best for the system they want to run. I don't think being an underclassman will deter them if they have seen enough of the player.
     
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  26. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    I certainly agree.
     
  27. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    Armando has little credibility w/me
    would never set to sea in that leaky vessel
    having said that
    personally, I know nothing about the draft
    that I don't read somewhere else
    and all the talk is about Dez Bryant
    however
    we have several very astute members that know
    about the draft (serious pundits) that post our forum
    & the Miami FrontOffice knows everything, not to worry
    I would never disqualify anyone
    over anything Armando said
    :no:
     
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  28. FinNasty

    FinNasty Alabama don’t want this... Staff Member Club Member

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    Dont think it effects to much. I mean, Crabtree didnt get an extra dime for that holdout... you think Parker is going to do the same... or that Bryant is going to do the same after watching Parker flounder last year?
     
  29. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    We can take him in the 2nd.
     
  30. CANEPHINS

    CANEPHINS No Tats & Dreads Allowed

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    He is a tard. Crabtree held out because he thought it was an injustice of him being drafted after DHB...and it was. Still, it was wrong. However, Parker wasn't the problem. It was Crabtree and his cousin who was advising him.
     
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  31. High Definition

    High Definition No Smoke / No Drink 2011+

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    Biggest mistake in this current regime's run with the team would be to pass on Dez Bryant. I'd be heartbroken myself.
     
  32. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    Nice brother, I agree...forget this guy, just isnt going to happen...
     
  33. High Definition

    High Definition No Smoke / No Drink 2011+

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    This needed to be said.
     
  34. Bpk

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    For the many who are so certain agents shouldn;t mean a thing at all in considering a draft pick, we can revisit this thread if we end up drafting ANY player and they end up missing camp... then not contributing for the first half of the year.

    Especially if it ends up being Dez.

    Year after year we hear about how a player holds out, then misses a lot of camp, then has a bad year and everyone inside and outside the organization say it's because they were way too far behind physically and mentally out there because of missing time in camp.

    Happens every year to someone. Maybe to us this year, hey guys? Hope not.
     
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