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Anthropogenic Global Warming Proponent says prepare for Ice Age

Discussion in 'Science & Technology' started by jdang307, Jan 11, 2010.

  1. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    a mini one, at only 30 years long.
    http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/01/11/years-global-cooling-coming-say-leading-scientists/
    Natural water cycles, imagine that.

    So natural cycles can dominate over man made influences for the last 30 years, and indeed, he concludes these same cycles could be responsible for "much" of the warming the past 30 years, but there is indeed man made global warming,definitely. Did I get that right? Ok.

    How long before the US National Snow and Ice Data Center gets their funding cut?

    Parts in blue in the below image are colder (in December) today than 30 years ago, white neutral, orange/red warmer than 30 years ago.
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  2. USArmyFinFan

    USArmyFinFan Maximum Effort

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    So is it global warming or global cooling? I am confused now.
     
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  3. jupiterfin

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    Let me get this straight.

    He says the Earth's temperature fluctuates on it's own. Which I believe.

    He also thinks there's truth behind man made global warming. Which I also believe.

    And he thinks we're headed toward a 30 year "cool" period? Darn, if this last week is what we have to look forward to, I'm in big trouble. I can't take this cold weather anymore.
     
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  4. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    I am with you on this.....

    this cold weather crap is nice for like a couple of days...not 8 straight days of frozen tundra of Miami.
     
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  5. jupiterfin

    jupiterfin Mild Irritant

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    It's bull crap Section.

    I had ice on my Jeep Sunday morning. Ice, in Palm Beach County.

    And to make it worse, I can't find a single slant that makes it Dubya or Cheney's fault :shifty:
     
  6. dolphan117

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    SOB!

    I love summer and cant stand this cold. I guess I better go buy an SUV and release some refrigerator coolant to put an end to this cold snap. Who's with me?

    It just highlights how hilarious and unscientific the area of climate change is. The predictions of how much warmer the planet was going to get several years down the road has always been way, way off. We are talking hundreds of percent off.

    And now, instead of a global warming it reverses to.... "Oh, yeah, sorry about..... Its actually going to start getting colder."

    Which would be impressive if they had been able to predict it ahead of time but they didnt. They figured it out AFTER the currents shifted.
     
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  7. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    It was cold in San Diego but not this weekend. Shorts and tee shirt all weekend. I hear it's 50F in Hawaii which is terribly cold (no insulation etc.).

    Ok so we had 30 years of warming, caused mostly by nature, maybe some by man. Now we are going to have 30 years of cooling, caused by nature despite Man.

    But there is definitely man made global warming.

    These guys are learned scientists right?
     
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  8. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    When I walked out of my house early this morning I thought somebody vandalized my Nitro...then I noticed that the reason my SUV was not bright red was that it had a sheet of ice on it.

    what a joke.

    ENOUGH!
     
  9. Soundwave

    Soundwave Phins Sympathizer..

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    you can always move to Medicine Hat...

    Normals
    Max: 21°F
    Min: 1°F

    today is a balmy 41!!

    http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/forecast/city_e.html?ab-51&unit=i
     
  10. maynard

    maynard Who, whom?

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    record low in tampa last night i believe.
     
  11. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    Dude...your weather was better today than it has been here all week.

    It was 39 ****ing degrees in KEY WEST last night.

    On Saturday it was 32 degrees in SOUTH BEACH.
     
  12. maynard

    maynard Who, whom?

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    i hate when you hear some transplant say, "Bah! you think this is cold?! its -5 in minnesota!"
     
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  13. Soundwave

    Soundwave Phins Sympathizer..

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    wow. how many cubans did u folks lose over the weekend?


    j/k of course
     
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  14. GARDENHEAD

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    If the cold weather prevents hurricanes from strengthening, I guess it won't be all that bad...
     
  15. my 2 cents

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    Depends...which one gets more financing and makes politicians and Al Gore more money?
     
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  16. jdang307

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    I thought I read that global cooling will kill many more people than global warming. Freezing, famine etc.

    Hurricanes were originally said to have strengthened under a global warming model. When that didn't happen the model suddenly, after revision, predicted that the opposite was true, of course.
     
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  17. gafinfan

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    I think the old standard in weather reporting is the most true and should be our "gold" standard. "If you don't like the weather report give it 30 minutes and it will change." I guess all we need to change in that statement is "minutes" to "years."
     
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  18. jason8er

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    Don't get too upset folks. Although harsh, this was just weather, and not climate. Not YET anyway.

    Remember this the next time some ignoramus tries to hoodwink you into believing the next heat wave is proof of global warming.
     
  19. USArmyFinFan

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    Ok, it warmed up today in San Antonio, does this mean the mini ice age is over and we are headed back into global warming? :shifty:
     
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  20. jason8er

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    :lol: Just wait brother. Wait for the next heat wave, and the hilariously predictable news reports. While they largely ignored the frigid weather, the hot weather will be reported with stock footage of hurricanes, dry cracked riverbeds, floods, and the loud dramatic music in the not-so-background.
     
  21. Section126

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    It peaked at 61 degrees today!!!!!!!
     
  22. muscle979

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    It's been below freezing every night here for weeks. This is the coldest winter since I've been here. And not just 30 or 31 degrees, down around 20 or so.
     
  23. adamprez2003

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    the main thing to remember that whichever it is, it is caused by man....evil man. In a few years they will announce that the only reason we have nighttime is because of man's existence. If it wasnt for man, there would be 24 hour sunshine
     
  24. adamprez2003

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    congrats on the viagra but no more mention of your genitalia please :no:
     
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  25. padre31

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    Speaking of which, were are those "the temperatures are all man's fault!"



    How anyone, with a modicum of sense more than an agenda to advance, could buy into the idea that Climate as a whole moves in only direction and man is responsible for that is mystifying.
     
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  26. Section126

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    Back to the god damn 40's again.

    be gone Global cooling!
     
  27. jason8er

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    Well, to be fair Padre, James Hansen and Gavin Schmidt at NASA actually do adjust temps downward. While they always adjust current temps upwards, they will routinely adjust temperatures from the distant past downwards.

    This ensures stooooopidly steep graphs like this one, meant to elicit an emotional response:

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    Now if that doesn't jerk your limbic system, you can always use a deep red color to represent a 2 degree change in temperatures in sub zero conditions.

    [​IMG]


    Man, just makes you want to off an Exxon executive huh? :lol:
     
  28. Stringer Bell

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    Ice age seems inevitable. Whether caused by man or not. The question is, how do we stop it?
     
  29. MikeHoncho

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    This is obviously all Man-Bear-Pig's fault!
     
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  30. padre31

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    SB...I thought you were a capitalist?

    We sell "warmth credits" to those who already purchased "carbon credits", make a bundle, write a book, make a propaganda film and laugh all the way to the private island on the private 777...


    Worked for the "Goracle"...:yes:
     
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  31. jason8er

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    You can't brother. You can only adapt.

    For quite some time, Earth's history has been dominated by ice age climate, with tiny little warm periods every 100,000 years or so. The following chart not only shows you were we currently lie in the grand scheme of things, but also how precious global warming really is.

    [​IMG]

    The gold peaks represent life and prosperity. The rest.......well, when you consider that 90% of Earths biodiversity can't even deal with frost, you can paint a pretty grim picture of what will happen.

    We are talking about a very, very powerful cycle here. Warm periods are a rare event. When the earth decides to slip back into another ice age, a state that has dominated the climate for the last half a million years, there won't be a damn thing anyone could do about it, except try to adapt.
     
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  32. padre31

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    Exactly J8, that is one of the faulty premises of "Global Warming".

    When the Earth is warm and CO2 rich, life blooms across the globe, more crops, healthier animals etc.

    When the Earth cools life regresses, the Viking colony in Greenland, was prosperous, when the mini ice age hit, they had no contact with Europe and their diet had fundamentally changed from Beef/Sheep/Dairy to fish and seafood, and the colony died a slow death of attrition.
     
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  33. jason8er

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    Lordy. Back during Mesozoic times, there was enough CO2 in the atmosphere to sustain dinosaurs. Can you imagine what the vegetation looked like back then, with CO2 levels nearly 10 times what they are today? Vegetation was huge, abundant, and grew very fast. Dinosaurs would simply never survive in todays CO2 impoverished times.

    Infact, the Earth was so productive back then, that we are STILL reapings its benefits today.
     
  34. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    http://www.risk.net/energy-risk/news/1585509/four-charged-carbon-trading-fraud-belgium
    of course this goes unreported.
     
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  35. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    What is the greatest trick played on humans. The devil convincing us he doesn't exist, or scientists tricking everyone that global warming is bad.
     
  36. DevilFin13

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    An Ice Age would suck. I'm already freezing my *** of in TN for a few months out of the year. Its enough to make me want to move to San Diego or any in Florida. I want to do like Daniel Tosh said and skip all of the crappy seasons.
     
  37. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    If a mini ice age comes along not even San Diego would work. I'm freezing here. It's like 60F, even 50F sometimes!!!!!
     
  38. DevilFin13

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    If you want weaker hurricanes you better hope the gays in the region start flipping through their neighbor's Victoria's Secret catalog and it moves.
     
  39. DevilFin13

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    50? You poor SOB. :lol:
     
  40. padre31

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    What troubles me about Global Warming, the movement, is there are some highly educated people who bought into it hook line and sinker, that amazes me to no end.

    When this interglacial period ends, a .1% rise in temperatures will be met with hope, people remain remarkably ignorant as to how far south the last Glaciers crept into N. America, solid walls of ice hundreds of feet tall down through KY and all the way west to the great plains.
     
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