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Official WWE/TNA Wrestling Thread

Discussion in 'Other Sports Forum' started by alen1, Mar 25, 2008.

  1. Ray Finkle

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    Yeah again I'm not saying Sheamus is a bust and the WWE shouldn't push the guy but they need to build him up first. You just can't expect him to be a star just because he's carrying around a belt. The WWE just did a terrible job building him up.

    I don't know, I mean sure he might pop the crowd at his return and a few weeks after that but I think he's a stale act (along with the rest of the nWo). Plus banking on Hall to be healthy and being sober is highly unlikely. I mean when he came back to the WWE in 2002 it spiked the ratings for a week or 2 and then him and Nash became non factors. Hogan had a good 5 month run before he got stale too.
     
  2. Thunderbolt89

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    Yeah they should just give him time to build him up. I do like what they are doing with Kofi though,that is the right way to build him up. This next year hopefully they keep on focusing on building new talent like Kofi, MVP, Swagger, Morrison, DiBiase, Rhodes.
     
  3. Dolphins1Beatles

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    When Bret Hart comes back someone needs to sneak a camera backstage! I want to see when him and Shawn see each other for the first time since 1997. They have to be doing something together, he wouldn't come back to face Vince in a street fight without something from HBK/DX being thrown in. Good to see Bret has finally moved on from SS1997.
     
  4. Ray Finkle

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    Swagger has been rumored to be in the dog house but I'm not sure why. Hopefully with his match with Cena, the WWE will have more faith in him again.
     
  5. Ray Finkle

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    Bret and Shawn have seen each other since the 1997 Survivor Series. I don't think it will be a big deal, they will just ignore each other and stay away from each other. I'm sure McMahon would love to get Bret involved in a HBK storyline but I'm not sure Bret would go for it unless it involved a Hart Dynasty vs. DX storyline.
     
  6. Thunderbolt89

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    Yeah that match was really good,that was a quality PPV type match.Also, why does it always seem like everyone who has talent or potential is always in the dog house?
     
  7. Ray Finkle

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    Probably because the wrestlers (cough Triple H cough Undertaker cough) who have McMahon and the higher ups ears aren't as talented and feel threated by them that if they get over with the fans they could surpass them. So they find reasons why a certain wrestler shouldn't be pushed because they don't dress well or they can't work the WWE style etc etc. And it's usually why if you're not friends with those certain guy you don't get pushed.
     
  8. Thunderbolt89

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    Yeah,they should try and focus on the future guys because sooner or later they are going to have to turn over the keys to them. This is why I don't mind Cena,from what I see he is always willing to help the younger guys gain credibility.
     
  9. Samphin

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    You can't just turn over an entire main event scene to young guys though. Especially not when your company is publicly traded and you have to answer to shareholders. Their responsibility is to make money. Now, I think we can ALL question the methods on how they make money and feel they could be doing a better job of it, but that isn't up to us.

    So, you will see marketable stars like HHH, Undertaker, Cena, Michaels, Orton and a couple of other stalwarts at or near the top of the card for awhile. Younger guys like Punk, Sheamus, Kofi, Morrison, Swagger (hopefully) and a couple of others are going to have to be brought on and have their hands held by the main eventers to lend credibility.

    Now, I know that stands to fly in the face of what I have said about Sheamus previously, but really, it doesn't. Sheamus is now in a fued with Cena where Cena can't seem to beat him. If the WWE is smart, they would market it as such. Yes, Cena wins by DQ, but he is at his breaking point since he isn't the champ. And Sheamus keeps escaping with Cena's belt and getting in some cheapshots to boot.

    I do agree that I hate the way WWE books their heels once they get a title. Sheamus is booked as this bad *** monster heel up until he wins the title...andnow he backs down? That doesn't make sense and is counterproductive. However, having him keep the title longer, I think is going to help establish him in the long run, which is what they want and need.

    I liked where they were going withthe Carlito angle a few weeks back where he came out and just railed on Cena and how the locker room hates him. I wish they would have stuck with that and have both faces AND heels come out to help Sheamus win/retain his title. It would have been an interesting angle and given something for Cena to do until at least Wrestlemania in going after those who "screwed" him.

    As for Bret Hart coming back, I feel like I am going to get swerved on this for some reason. Everything I see and read says he is going to be around for a little while, but something just feels off.

    I really hope he doesn't step into the ring. A 50 year old stroked out Bret will leave a bad taste in my mouth if he laces up the boots. However if he IS able to put HBK or Vince in the sharpshooter...I wouldn't be opposed.

    It would be great to see Bret end up taking the reigns for Raw full time and put the guest host gimmick to rest, as even I am sick of it at this point. But it won't happen.
     
  10. charlestonphan

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    this got a thread in the lounge, but it hasnt been stated here yet, unless i missed something...

    Dr. Death Steve Williams passed away from cancer this past week. dude was a starting defensive lineman AND an All American wrestler at Oklahoma, and a legit all around badass.

    he was a mainstay in Bill Watt's Mid-South wrestling in the mid 80's when it was as fun to watch as any wrestling show i've ever seen. formed a great Tag Team there with Ted Dibiase as well as in Japan. when WCW bought out MId SOuth, which had become the UWF by that point, he had a good run in WCW in it's early days when the Crocket's and then later on the Turner organization was growing its product from the NWA into WCW.

    he was very famous in Japan as well, as a singles wrestler and he teamed with Stan Hanson and Terry Gordy and won some tag tournies and i think the IWGP Tag title in Japan as well.

    he had a run in WWE in the mid 90's when he was past his prime, but back in the day, he was as good a big man as the wrestling business had.

    he was a partier as well in years past, and had some drug issues that he owned up to, and was also a very good friend with the WWE's J.R.

    i would have loved to read a book on his career.

    RIP Dr. Death!
     
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  11. Samphin

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    He was also part of a tag team that may have had the best name of all time. The Mircale Violence Connection.
     
  12. charlestonphan

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    that has to be a Japanese translation to English (or mebbe Ingrish?), but it is EPIC!

    who was he teamed with in TMVC? :lol:
     
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  13. Ray Finkle

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    Terry Gordy
     
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  14. Big E

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    who is also dead...nice....I loved Dr. D..The Alabama Slam...
     
  15. Samphin

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    Funny thing about Gordy and Williams. Back in the early days of WCW, the Steiners were pretty much the bullies of the locker room. Complete ***** to just about everyone since they knew that in a legit fight, no one could hold their own with them. But every time Williams and Gordy showed up, you couldn't find two nicer guys than Scott and Rick. All of a sudden everythign was yes sir, no sir and other people were able to have unput in their matches.
     
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  16. charlestonphan

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    i had heard stories of the Steiners backstage bullying, and Foley even mentions it (kinda like the Bulldogs in his WWF debut). most of them focused on Scott Steiner as the prick, was Rick a D-Bag too?
     
  17. Samphin

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    WAY back in the day, I used to get the Apter Magazines and just DEVOUR everything in them (They were biased to Jim Crockett and NWA/WCW, but still had a ton of WWE stories). Anyhow, they came at the angle of dropping little nuggets of info but mainly keeping kayfabe. On a few occasions they would print a picture or two and I remember distinctly seeing a photo where Scott is seen arguing with Rick in a locker room and everyone else is pretending it doesn't exist.

    So I have no idea is Scott was a bigger, overall *** or not, the story about the Steiners being loudmouth bullies in general tends to jive with this picture. I believe Rick now sells houses and makes an occasional appearances when called on...as an FYI. He also, save for a brief stint in WCW, spent his entire career as a face. He seemed to have that goofy appeal that a crowd could latch onto.
     
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  18. Ray Finkle

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    Some smallish spoilers for tomorrow:

    -Both Jeff Hardy and Shannon Moore will be at the TNA show but no word if either will be on TV. Moore has apparently be contacted about a contract while Hardy is apparently going with Moore for support.

    -Rob Van Dam won't be at either show, according to him.

    -The Hart Dynasty will be at the RAW show.
     
  19. Thunderbolt89

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    So,tomorrow is the first TNA vs Raw competition. What show will the rest of you be watching?
     
  20. Ray Finkle

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    RAW, no doubt about it. TNA is the minor leagues and I really have no interest in a nWo reunion or watching a possible Jeff Hardy sighting. The stuff with Bret Hart should be good/interesting. And I'm sure McMahon will have another surprise or 2 up his sleeves.
     
  21. Jt0323

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    No doubt the first 20 min of raw is going to be a great moment..should be a great raw
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  22. Thunderbolt89

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    Oh haha,I dont mind TNA its good for competition. I really did not watch much TNA until the past few months and it is really not that bad of a show. I will probably watch the first hour then switch over to RAW when it starts. I might switch channels back and forth during commercial or if I dont like a certain segment.
     
  23. charlestonphan

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    i am curious how they play it with Hart and McMahon. i have read that Hart has a "Wrestlemania Contract" and that he will be appearing in some capacity for WWE thru the Monday night after Mania. so there is alot of potential there.
     
  24. Samphin

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    Well, for me, it is a success for TNA as, for the first time in a LONG time, I am pretty much making Raw appointment television. And I think I owe that to TNA lighting a tiny little fire under McMahon and Co. to counter program.

    I don't think WWE is concered about losing in the ratings (they won't and it won't even be close), but they certainly are aware of TNA's presence, which, I think is a very good thing for us as fans. But it is always bittersweet for me because IF the shows come out and are just awesome like they look to be, it makes you scratch your head as to why they rest on their heels the rest of the time, but whateve, no sense in questioning it I suppose.

    A couple of thoughts I had. I would NOT be surprised to see Hardy "picked up" in the crowd. He may be the closest thing to a "Luger Moment" that they can get. The former champ being seen front and center for a TNA show would probably be a slight blow to the WWE and a recognizable face for any curious WWE fans switching over.

    Also interesting is that NO matches for Impact have been announced other than a couple of women's matches. Not sure if thisis a good thing or not. I imagine a LOT of development with Hogan coming out. But I fully expected a couple of matches to be announced with their marquee people to try and generate some heat. Styles/Daniels or Angle/Wolfe, etc. But apparently they are keeping it VERY under wraps...
     
  25. Jt0323

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    Tomorrow is a big night for wrestling... I hope hart does something at wrestle mania! I'm excited to go!
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  26. Samphin

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    WRESTLEMANIA:
    So, just looking at various things from around the internet, the most reliable rumors I have seen so far have HHHbattling none other than SHEAMUS for the WWE Title at WM26.Which means that if true, Sheamus most likely carries the belt for a few more months, much to the chagrin of a few members here. Other rumored matches include HBK-UT 2, Jericho vs. Edge in some capacity, Dibiase vs. Orton, a Money in the Bank Match to feature Kofi and possibly a Cena/Batista matchup.

    If true, it is solid enough with names to draw,but doesn't do much in terms of ticklingmy *** with a feather. Even I would be hesitant of having Sheamus walking into WM26as champ. I think I would like to see somethign similar to below:

    Cena tries a few more times to beat Sheamus but keeps getting snuffed otu, one way or another, finally having Sheamus beat him clean and Sheamus declaring that he is DONE giving Cena title shots.

    HBK wins the rumble eliminating HHH in the process (maybe even last, with a superkick out of the ring) to earn another shot at current champion the Undertaker. Cena challenges HBK for that shot at the February PPV. HHH gets into the match (possibly by Bret Hart wanting to mess with HBK further) as well and a miscomunication leads to HBK getting pinned by Cena, thus losing his rematch opportunity with UT at Wrestlemania and pissing Shawn off to where he snaps, beats the tar out of HHH and ends up challenging HHH as the heel for WM.

    Jericho, seeing that the opportunity to nab the Raw challenger spot to Sheamus (assuming that Jerishow win the titles BACK from D-X so that he can be on RAW), appeals to Bret's sense of Canadian-ness to try and get that spot. Bret agrees to let Jericho challenge for the title at the Feb. PPV, provided that Jerishow defend their tag titles against the Hart Dynasty the same night. Jericho agrees without ever consulting with Show.

    The match goes on, but with little participation from Jericho as he is obviously saving himself for the championship match for later in the night. A refusal to tag in from Show after Show has taken a beating leaves Show frustrated and leads to Show dropping Jericho with a huge right hand and walking out. The Dynasty nail Jericho with their move and becomethe NEW undisputed Tag Champs, Show turns face and Jericho is laid out and hurt before his date with Sheamus for later in the night.

    Jericho, sporting a visibly black and blue eye, makes his way to the ring, selling the effects of, perhaps a slight concussion. Sheamus dominates, but ultimately falls to a code breaker. Jericho is the WWE champ.

    Next night on Raw, Jericho brags about how not only did he lose 400 pounds of deadweight, but he proved, without a shadow of a doubt that he doesn't need partners, and that he can do it himself. Bret Hart comes out, says that he congratulates him for beating a foreigner to win the championship back. But its ironic that he lost his tag belts to acouple of Canadians because...at Wrestlemania 26, he will once again be defending his belt against a Canadian...

    Edge's music hits as Jericho panics. Edge, makes his way through the crowd (a nod to his original entrance years ago) and is able to get the jump on Jericho in the ring.

    As for Sheamus, you give him a rematch with Jericho where Edge interferes so that Jericho retains and Sheamus's rematch clause is invoked. Sheamus vows to get back on top, as is CM Punk, Swagger continues to pop off, and Kofi looks to take the next step. Those four, along with Evan Bourne and...Randy Orton qualify for the Money in the Bank match. Randy decides to take this route because despite all of his efforts, he can't seem to get what he wants...and that is a title shot, so he qualifies in hopes of forcing himself to have one by winning (plus he adds some star power to a match that has nothign but upper mid-carders at this point).

    Christian continues to take on any and all comers which leads to a three way dance between himself, Regal and Benjamin for the ECW Title, while Big Show, still obsessed over the tag titles, decides to go with the direct opposite approach of his offensive gameplan and ends up with Rey Misterio as his partner to face the Hart Dynasty.

    Also, I would have Miz start throwing pot shots at his old partner, John Morrison. Have John beat McIntyre for the Intercontinental belt at the February PPV. While Miz continues to hold the U.S. Title. Morrison defends his IC Title at Wrestlemania against Ziggler and retains, while Miz complains after the match that he has no opponent. Morrison steps up and offers to put up his belt vs. Miz's to settle their score once and for all.

    And of course you throw two women's matches on the card as well to get their obligatory title defenses out of the way. There ARE a couple of glaring omissions with my card. Obviously Dibiase and Rhodes are left off. I thought about adding them to the MitB match as it would be an in interesting dynamic since I epxcet them to be broken up by then. And that would work fine. But it might clutter it up a bit too. Also, Batista is completely ignored in this scenario as well, so I thought about maybe combining the two together and weaving a storyline centered around Batista's decent to madness trying to get the belt.

    If you look at how I built this card up, it is with the intent of EVERYONE gunning for the top two belts. HBK wins the Rumble, Cena convinces him to put the spot up and wins it. Jericho abandons the tag ranks to go after individual gold. Orton enters MitB because it is his last resort to get back to the top, obviously all the other MitB competitors are taking their shots as well. HBK had his shot, loses it on account of HHH and that is whyu they fight. So the whole card is built around these titles (as I think they should be).

    Batista...I think I would have him draw an early number in the Rumble, claim some type of conspiracy after he is eliminated. Maybe he beats up the next guy coming down to the ring as he is leaving, putting that person out of commission. He then tries to enter the MitB tourney and loses the qualifier. He flips out and when he once again takes out a superstar. At this point, Long has to address the issue and warns Batista to cool off. Batista snaps beating Long's *** ans thus, getting kicked off of Smackdown.

    He shows up unannounced on Raw looking for a job (and title shot and a Wrestlemania spot). When he is rebuffed...he snaps again, taking out talent (including Dibiase and Rhodes) and is barred from Raw and effectively gone from the WWE. He keeps buying tickets for the front row of Raw/Smackdown events and always seems to get involved to some degree in the action where he is kicked out (i.e. spitting soda on a wrestler, taking a cheapshot, roughing up a "fan").

    After the ECW Match (in which I have Benjamin or Christian win), I have Batista attack, tear off his shirt to reveal an ECW logoed shirt and announce that since SD! and RAW feel he is out of control, he is taking his extreme behavior to where he knows he can fit in...E...C....W. and voila, you have another main eventer for ECW, you have something for Batista to do for WM and something to build on going forward. So here is my card for Wrestlemania and the outcomes I would have:

    -Undertaker vs. John Cena (World Title + Streak)
    -Chris Jericho vs. Edge (WWE Title)
    -HHH vs. HBK (Grudge Match) (HBK goes on to challenge Cena as he is threatened by Cena being able to beat UT)
    -Kofi vs. Swagger vs. Orton vs. Bourne vs. Sheamus vs. Punk
    -MisteriShow vs. Hart Dynasty (Tag Titles)
    -Christian vs. Benjamin vs. Regal (ECW Title + Batista attacks after)
    -Morrison vs. Miz (Title vs. Title)
    -Raw Women's Match
    -SD! Women's Match
    -Something with Bret/Vince


    So that would be nine matches and a Sports Entertainment segment with Bret/Vince. Obviously this won't happen, but I think the card has a nice blend of young talent being showcased along with the old guard still being utilized in nice spots. Notable Snubs include: Dibiase, Rhodes, Kane, McIntyre, Hardy, Ziggler, Truth, Carlito, MVP and Mark Henry. Although I can see some of those guys being used as the losers for the MitB Qualifying tourney, so in a way, they are involved. But maybe those guys could form some sort of offshoot angle after WM about being snubbed. Maybe they go on strike or something where for a few weeks or a month, they picket the tv shows with signs and whatnot while having a spokesperson rail against the industry and how they need to unionize, etc. Basically taking a shot at what others outside the industry say from time to time, until McMahon comes in and busts them up down the road.

    Thoughts? On the overall card and union idea.
     
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    I havent watched wrestling for a while but I think I will tune in for TNA it sounds like its going to be some show
     
  28. Ray Finkle

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    Basically what I meant was I haven't watched TNA in almost a year. I think the last show I watched was when around the time Foley came in. It did little to interest me then and to be honest with you I have no desire to see Hogan, Nash, Sting, Hall, X-Pac or whoever else they decide to bring in/back. If I want to see those guys wrestle I'll pull out a random WCW/WWE tape and watch them. A random Jeff Hardy sighting doesn't do it for me either. It's not a knock on some of TNA's talent because they definitely have guys that can work nor am I a TNA hater, I just have no real interest in them. I will tune in during commercials for RAW but unless they do something really big or the show is good I probably won't keep watching. But don't be fooled, this isn't a Monday Night War all over again like TNA wants you to think, it just happens that two different companies are putting a show on the same night at the same time.

    At least with the WWE there's Bret Hart's return which even if he comes to the ring, smiles, cuts a promo and walks out and never shows up again it's enough to get me and I'm sure every other wrestling fan of the late 80s thru late 90s attention to watch.
     
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  29. Samphin

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    I just heard that radio host (and Hogan friend) Bubba the Love Sponge, is the new backstage guy for TNA. Sounds like he will be handling interviews over Borash.

    Huh. Well, I know he loves wrestling so that is a plus, and he can certainly talk as anyone knows who has heard his radio show, so it probably is fine. Just interesting.
     
  30. Vengeful Odin

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    It's funny ... last week when I was sick my wife picked up the Hulk Hogan's Unreleased Collector's edition DVD. Lots of rare and good stuff on that set, if you haven't taken a good look for it and you want some rare Hogan stuff it's probably worth it. If you're a workrate freak well you may want to pass on it. As a former Hulkamaniac however, I enjoyed it. Now, with my nostalgia in full force, Hulk Hogan is set to return to my TV tonight. I've found Hogan's act progressively sad over the last few years, and for me his last "great" match has to be against Michaels at SummerSlam a few years ago. To me, that was Hogan's last great memory.

    Regarding tonight I personally think TNA is a boon for WWE, as McMahon and company have been largely lazy in their writing, booking, and overall product for the past several years. I used to watch RAW and SmackDown religiously, but as the years have worn on it's gotten to the point where I rarely, if ever, watch the product. (I'm about 30, so part of that is my natural maturity and gravitation towards products geared towards realism, for example, UFC) That said, TNA has failed to appeal to me, by and large, because their booking is reminiscent of WCW in the late 90s, with the same old guys on top. TNA has also failed to largely differentiate themselves from WWE, and instead appear to be "WWE-Lite." I fear tonight's show won't do much to dispel that.

    I have tried to watch ROH, but they've also moved to Monday nights which means I often forget to watch when they are on. I do enjoy their product when I can remember to catch it.

    Tonight is a night I truly wish I had a DVR. I'd like to record all 3 shows and be able to watch them in their entirety. As it is I'll probably flip back and forth between the 3 of them ... ROH & TNA from 7:00p to 8:00p, and then TNA & WWE from 8:00p onward. Should be a fun night either way ... the first time I can remember looking forward to a wrestling show in a significant amount of time.
     
  31. Ray Finkle

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    Nice post Vengeful Odin.
     
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  32. Thunderbolt89

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    You are really good at writing up storylines. I like the way you had Edge returning and trying to take the title Jericho won. Also the way you had everyone trying to get to one of the major title was good. Great read and good post.

    I see your point and agree on those. See they have good talent like Joe,Styles,good tag teams,but for some reason they keep looking to the past towards other guys when they have a young talented roster. I can see why they have some to bring in names that are recognized but some people they just dont need and go overboard signing older talent. Also,of course it is not a Monday Night War,TNA doesn't have the fan base to compete like that but they are building it up and are setting themselves up to grow for the future.

    Great post,I feel the same because it is also the first time in a long time I am this excited to see wrestling tonight. I think TNA serves as good competition and improves the WWE shows,just look at tonight they have gone out of their way to set up a good show. This is why I am excited to watch tonight because will both try and put forth their best shows.
     
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  33. Vengeful Odin

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    The thing that makes me different from the typical WWE fan may be that I prefer the in-ring action to the backstage skits and stuff. RAW just has too much talking, and when they aren't talking, they're replaying the previous segment for me.

    Don't get me wrong, I think that skits have their place (I loved the Macho Man heel meltdown on SNME, and the Austin visits Vince in the hospital is one of my all-time favorites), but it seems like more often than not, end up without any real payoff. I'd rather have 2-3 minutes of talking that leads to a 8-10 minute match, but it seems to be backwards these days in WWE.

    I'm willing to set that prejudice aside for this week, because I think WWE will go out of their way to make their show PPV quality, and I fully expect TNA to try and do the same.
     
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  34. Two Tacos

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    I haven't watched a full show in years. Sometimes, I will turn one on for 45mins or so. I like the production of WWE, but the wrestling seems stale. Every match seems to run the same template. And the stuff out of the ring seems more important than what happens in the ring. I find TNA to have better matches, at least more entertaining to me, but poorer production out of the ring. These are just my semi fan observations.

    Also I like Hogan. This comes from being a Bubba fan, and getting a side of him that you never see elsewhere. There have been some off the cuff interviews where he had to be drunk/pilled up that were just fascinating.
     
  35. Two Tacos

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    Stop stealing my thoughts! Mutant!
     
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    I'm a Viking. Thought stealing is one of our relatively unknown powers.
     
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    well hardy made it with some weird music


    What a fail with homicide not getting out of that poorly built cage.
     
  38. Samphin

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    Well, Hardy made his re-debut in TNA. Theme music and everything. I would have put dollars down that Suicide was RVD based on the somersault I saw him do and the fact that he looked bigger than Kazarian (who traditionally plays Suicide).

    And that Steel Asylum match is awful. Hard to climb out of and hard to watch on TV as it simply is distracting to the eye, imo.

    They should have done an Ultimate X match, which I think is probably their BEST match to showcase the X Division players. Shannon Moore was just shown backstage as well. TNA is certainly trying.
     
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    Impact has been a letdown thus far. Lame ending to a match that wasn't given enough time to develop.

    Seeing Hardy was kind of nice, I guess. Didn't really shock me one way or the other.

    Kind of a weird Nash interview. And I don't care about the Knockouts either.
     
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    I also agree with Sam that the Steel Asylum gimmick didn't come across on TV well at all. It was next to impossible to follow the action.
     

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