The team is nothing without Ronnie Brown

The offense is so much more dynamic with him in. They will be fools not to retain him.

 

this offense is much more dynamic when we open up the offense.

enough with the short passes.

 

It should be obvious to anyone who watches the games that we are undeniably worse without Ronnie. He is far and away better than Ricky, as far as what he does for our team.
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zzzzzzzzzzzz......
here we go again with the crying and bs after a loss

 

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I think the Pennington loss hurts us more, but Brown certainly hurts as well.

 

no way pennington is 35/55 300+ and a td (should have been 2 tds and 0 picks) when they know we are throwing it

sorry bro

 

I don't see any crying in this thread except for you about the quality of the posts... That's ironic.

 

Losing Ronnie hurt this team big time, no doubt. I think we make the playoffs if he is healthy all year. When a player is such a difference maker you have to keep him. Hopefully he will be back and healthy next year.

 

Nor Chad Pennington, Jason Ferguson or Will Alen. We have a lot of banged up and young guys so theres only so many knocks a team can take. We're still fighting - mathmatically we're still alive - bring on the Steelers and start praying results go our way.

 

Brown will be re-signed. Miami has been eliminated from the playoffs.

 

I don't think losing Penny hurt us that bad. If we had Ronnie, I think we would have made the playoffs. I think losing Ferguson hurt us worse than losing Penny.

 

That is a pretty open statement bro. How much is he worth to this team? He can't stay healthy the whole season. If the price is right. I just think we have done a terrible job of having someone behind Ronnie to run the wildcat.

 

Pennington doesn't make those passes to Ginn lke Henne did in the 4th quarter. Pennington dinks and dunks like we did the first 3 quarters...

Pennington is more consistent i'll give you that but conistently average is not going to get you anywhere in this league...

 

I don't think it was so much RB as it was the Wildcat. This team needs the wildcat to hide the deficiencies once RB was out so was the Wildcat. That's a big part of the problem we can't be dependent on the wildcat to be competitive we need to be able to be competitive playing conventional football just like every other playoff calibre team in the league.

The tricks only get you so far...there nice once in awhile but your offense can't be entirely dependent on them to succeed.

 

It made up for our lack of a studs at TE, and WR.

 

Yet if Ronnie Brown is so crucial to the wildcat, doesn't that mean it WAS Ronnie Brown?

 

We do miss Brown but we can"t base the team off of him being in or we might as well just forget it. Were o were was our deffence the first half?

 

Brown's loss was big yes, but the defense clearly isn't a top echelon unit. It's downright amazing we're second in the NFL in sacks with the down year that Porter is having and how Jason Taylor has tailed off. Until the LB unit and a true FS are fixed and found, no amount of Ronnie Brown is going to get us anywhere (see the Colts game).

 

It was Ronnie Brown running the wildcat yes but you see it's more about the system than the player. We shouldn't ever be so dependent on one guy to have a winning season. Credit to Henning for building a system that was effective with the limited talent we have on the team but in the end it was our biggest downfall and it only masked alot of the problems we have.

I'm all for keeping Ronnie Brown for a reasonable salary he's a good player but it's not such a dire situation as the original poster implies because we shouldn't be so reliant on the wildcat in the first place if we actually want to be a playoff caliber team.

 

Turning the ball over multiple times, and throwing INTs in the red zone will not get you nearly as far.

 

Ricky is done, he has been more of a liability to us than an asset.How many times has he given the opposing team the ball now?

 

ricky played his butt off this season the dolphins just didnt spell him with hilliard enough
blaming ricky is a reach
he will be back next season

 

everyone gives too much praise for ronnie brown
always hurt and way over rated
i know what he does on the field but nothing is achieved on ir
that is where ronnie resides most of his career

 

This team is nothing on defense.

 

yet the defense didnt give up a single point in the second half
i cant imagine you noticed that adjustments were made
henning killed us again

 

I hope you are not serious, Ricky played hard all season and he went over 1,000 yards running strong between tackles. Every players fumbles at times even the great Ronnie lol.

If Ricky is done like you think, we better get a Running Back because we do not have one, to take is place.

 

Giving up 24 points in the 1st half really hurt.......

 

it still comes down to execution ... blame Henning if you want - but we repeatedly leave plays on the field ...

as for the defense, great, the last 3 weeks - they make adjustments at half and play unbelievably well in the 2d half ..... if they could have done that earlier this season -- we wouldn't be 7-8 looking at 7-9 right now ....

what the FO wanted to do was to bring Henne along slowly -- so he didn't have to sling it around and try to score 21+ points in the 2d half .... there isn't a rookie who is going to do that very well consistently. the flip side is that we got to see that Henne can do it -- and will only be better next season for it.

now if we had had CP this year .... would our record be better -- maybe, maybe not ... but we were moving to Henne next year anyways .... and we would have had to deal with his 'rookie' year next year -- so in my mind .... we got it out of the way -- so with the right pieces added, we can truly make a run next season !

 

yeah the defense was pitiful in the first half
stepped up in the second half
we proved we dont need crowder
we came out flat early on and it bit us on the rear
couldnt do enough offensively to recover
d played a great second half though

 

The offense has always been like this all year. The defense allowed to many points.

 

The Defense should have shown up for the whole game, not just for a half. thats twice in a row. Thats on coaching.

 

i cant argue with that
sparano has to have them better prepared out of the gate
we hit the field flat out flat
was disgusting to watch

 

This team has no identity without ronnie brown. we have nothing that makes us special or exciting anymore. We're an unproductive and lackluster team without the wildcat and like it or not, that means we're unproductive and lackluster team without ronnie brown.

Ricky did fine filling in for a few weeks but he was less and less productive each week since the panthers game and today that was obvious. Thats not rickys fault of course, more so our offensive mindset altogether. We need Ronnie back.

If not him, CJ Spiller.

 

You're kidding me right? He lost 2 fumbles this year. For how close Ricky was AND open, there was no need for Henne to put zip on the pass, especially to a RB. How has he been a liability? Ronnie Brown had 2 fumbles and played 5 games less than Ricky. Obviously Ricky isn't what he used to be, but to say he's been a liability rushing over 1,000 yards is ridiculous.

4.8 yards per rush
1090 total rushing yards
13 total Touchdowns
2 fumbles lost

And he's a liability?

 

I agree that Brown is a "must sign" player, especially since Williams may not be back next year. Henne has done a fantastic job maturing over the past month but our offense needs balance...players like Ronnie Brown open up the deep threat like we saw today with Henne/Ginn.


As far as the Ricky Williams comments go...give the guy a break. He did not return to be a 30 carry per game running back and he has done awesome under the circumstances. The fumbles he gave up were tremendous hits, and although you never like to see any turnovers sometimes you can not fully fault the guy. Ricky Williams is a huge asset and we were lucky to have him.

 

ricky fumbled 5 times this season. he may have only lost 2, but thats just lucky. 5 is a lot for a RB who only carried half the load most of the season. Plus ronnie only fumbled once. not sure where your getting that 2nd one from.

one thing that REALLY needs to be pointed out with ricky is this. His longest run since the panthers game is 15 yards. second longest was 11. the wildcat was our only way to churn out big plays and we lost that.

 

BUT
ricky was on the field

 

and maybe that's why we go in a different direction. Id love someone like Spiller from clemson, i really really really would.