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Ted Ginn is getting slammed by CJ and N Washington

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by padre31, Dec 18, 2009.

Ted Ginn will have what kind of game this weekend?

Poll closed Dec 23, 2009.
  1. Ginn will disappear

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    11.9%
  2. Ginn will play at a high level

    51 vote(s)
    43.2%
  3. Same as usual

    53 vote(s)
    44.9%
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  1. jetssuck

    jetssuck I hear Mandich's voice...

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    You over exaggerate that.....I mean honestly bro, what percentage of "hater's" out there (as we are called..lol) do you really think care more about Ginn doing poorly than us winning?

    If any it's a negligible amount........not enough for you to even bring it up. Why? because when you make statements like that it appears as tho you have an agenda to make anyone that says anything negative, look like less of a fan.

    Personally I don't appreciate it no more than you like being called an apologist.

    The Pro Ginn crowd could back off a little as well if they are serious about making this Ginn argument less of an issue.
     
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  2. sking29

    sking29 What it takes to be cool

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    If Ginn or any other player has to be fired up by insults or questioning then that player has serious issues that wouldn't make me want them on my team. A player should be fired up every week and if they need fan ridicule or player ridicule to make them come out play hard, attack, and not be scared then that's just sad.

    I'm not convinced this is the case for Ginn, although it seems to be going that direction, all we can do is wait and see.


    Also I voted "the same as usual" which is basically the same as "invisible." :lol:
     
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  3. Crappy Tipper

    Crappy Tipper AKA Hero13

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    First of all, very well written response and I hope you do know that I respect you a great deal so nothing in this is personal to you, but in generalities as I see them.

    I don't think all Ginn supporters are "apologists", but there certainly are some that will always rush to his defense and deflect his error no matter how obvious it is.
    As for the realist, I can really only speak for myself. I try to take the weight of his accomplishments vs his failures and out of that I try to realistically come up with my opinion of him. In my perspective he's had many more times where I've been upset with the outcome of him touching (or touching then dropping) the ball than been happy.

    Believe it not I want Ginn to be an All-Pro WR, there is nothing that would please me more. I take no joy in these discussions I wish there were nothing but praises to sing.

    You would have to go back quite some time but I was a big Ginn supporter early on but he beat me down week after week until I flipped. I always try to make a point to make sure I give praise to him after a game where he makes a great play.
    You're 100% right about the other players that makes mistakes and they should be held to the same accountability.

    I am always 100% a Miami Dolphin fan, but nowhere is it written that I have to be happy with all the players as separate entities. I don't accept support them all because they are Dolphins...... if blind support were mandatory to be a fan the team would never cut, trade or aquire new players because that by the same standard means the team wasn't happy with an individual player and recognized that the teams success would be better off without that player or with a different player in his position.

    Does that mean the owners & coaches are fair weather, band-wagon supporters?

    No, it means they want a better team so the unit as a whole is more successful.

    If you want to get into my real life I'll answer that question. I don't tolerate failure well. I never have. I certainly don't give a pass on things but I'll always be the person standing beside someone to try to help them through whatever problem they are having in life. I hate excuses. I'm certainly more tolerant in my personal than professional life, but it's just the way I'm wired.

    Believe me I've been called an ******* on more than one occasion but if I change who I am now it wouldn't be me.

    By the way, enjoy the snow, I still get to wear t-shirts outside on a good day :lol:


    I know exactly what the players failure means to the team and that is exactly why those failures piss me off so much.

    What absolutely kills me is when the offensive line makes great blocks, Polite lays out some LB and then there is a mental error that derails the train.

    If it's a poorly thrown ball, a fumble by RW, dropped pass by Ginn or Bess

    What kills me is Fasano, Bess, Williams, Henne can make a mistake and people call it as it is but if Ginn makes a mistake people immediately rush to his defense and THAT is what irritates me is when people try to hard to prove how good Ginn is in the face of contrary facts.

    It does not make me less of a fan, it just means I don't accept blind faith in things and that I want all the pieces of the puzzle to work together. A team is the sum of it's parts and if one of those parts doesn't function then it should be tossed out and replaced.
     
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  4. like2god

    like2god Typical white person Luxury Box

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    Personal opinion doesn't figure into how staff does their job or what they decide to moderate.

    Nah, allowing nonsense in one part of the forum would only lead to it eventually finding its way back to this one, it's better to focus on quality discussion everywhere on the site and let the staff deal with the less than quality ones.

    There are plenty of bomb throwing comments that would beg to differ :wink2:

    I'm sure that's true in most cases, but when folks pop into a thread to post a response that is nothing but a dig, it's going to get a negative response that takes threads off-topic.

    I think his first two years were marred by playing with two QB's that didn't even bother to look his way due to physical limitations (Pennington and Green) and two other QB's who weren't good enough to make the throws asked of them (Lemon and Beck). This is really his first year with a QB who can hit him deep, place the ball where he wants it on a laser and make defenses respect the passing game. It's a process, I think there are still chemistry issues with Henne and the receivers, that's something that will work itself out in time. Going from a soft tosser like Pennington to a strong armed QB like Henne is a big adjustment, the team spent months getting used to the first Chad and when he went down the team was forced to adjust in a short period of time. Things will get better for all of the players in time.

    Nonsense, Porter is a good example of that, as are Chad Johnson, Ray Lewis, Bart Scott, Terrel Owens, etc, etc, etc. The NFL is littered with players who do nothing BUT run their mouths and question other player's manhood.

    That all depends on how the coaching staff uses him, they aren't going to change their gameplan and throw to Ginn 10 times based on opposing team comments.

    As I said to Greg, I think there is a chemistry issue that all of the WR's and TE's have had to adjust to. The team spent all of camp and preseason getting used to Penny and his soft arm, the other Chad is a totally different type of QB, his passes look alot different coming out of his hand.

    I didn't limit my comments to one group, I said all of us need to drop the pet names and act as a united fanbase.

    I don't understand how that could be when I clearly addressed both sides of the aisle. Criticism is fine, bomb-thrower comments are not, they only lead to bickering and ruin threads.

    The onus isn't on any one side, it's on all of us to make the quality here better. I don't know how I can say that any clearer. But when someone slips into a thread to take a potshot, of course people are going to respond negatively, that's the whole purpose of the potshot in the first place, to get people riled up and the folks who post that type of thing know it. It's nothing new and it needs to stop so we aren't at each others throat at the mention of any player's name.
     
  5. like2god

    like2god Typical white person Luxury Box

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    Criticism of a player is fine, labels for fellow members aren't. That was the point of my post. :wink2:

    It might be beneficial to look at what the "Ginn supporters" are responding to. Usually it's a bomb throwing comment, like one that I responded to earlier in this thread. A bomb throwing comment is one that adds nothing to a thread other than to piss people off by taking swipes, it happens way too often and it quite frankly makes trying to discuss anything here a hassle. We're better than that, both sides need to do a better job of keeping their comments civil and leave the pet names and bomb throwing on "other" sites.
     
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  6. MaddMatt

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    GREAT NEWS!!! IMO, they would have much better to let sleeping dogs lie. I thank them. I expect Ginn's best game.
     
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  7. Crappy Tipper

    Crappy Tipper AKA Hero13

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    You know as well as I that people are going to respond in a manner to support their own agenda no matter how much they have to skew things to do so.

    I for one am done with Ted Ginn threads and all the crap that comes along with it because inevitably I end up knee deep in it.

    In hindsight I should have simply said that the two sites will never see eye to eye without the labels, but at the time, with certain posts in mind the labels came to mind.
     
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  8. jetssuck

    jetssuck I hear Mandich's voice...

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    Ok well I still think that far too often you bring up the idea that people here want Ginn to fail.....and your proof of this is nothing more than a few ppl trolling or posting in anger.....those ppl aren't even relevant to the discussion, IMO.

    Also, you need to realize that the Pro Ginn side is just as likely to stir this thing up as anyone. Every time the kid makes a play there are people wanting the "bashers" to apologize to him. I know you keep saying you're covering both sides, but to be honest bro, mostly I see you focusing on the side that disagrees with you, more often than not.

    Personally, I'm about bored with him.......to me he is what he is, a limited receiver that shows up now and again. If it weren't for his contract, he'd have probably been cut already or at least in this coming off season. Sad to say, we're probably stuck with him for at least another year. And no I'm not looking to argue the points I just made about him.....I'm to the point I just don't care who agrees with me or not. lol
     
  9. PhiNomina

    PhiNomina White-Collar Redneck

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    You can't take his pro-rated bonus and then say he takes up that much "a season". He may take up that much NEXT season. But not every year - because you are pro-rating his bonus to be all in one year.

    His contract isn't really bad and is by no means handcuffing this team.

    EDIT - Wanted to add some numbers he signed a 5 year $19.6 million contract in 07 (with only $14 million guaranteed). His base salary this year was $677k and next year, just over $1 million. With his signing bonus, his cap hit this year is around $2.3 million and next year around $3 million. Guys such as Ayodale, Jason Allen and Charlie Anderson all make more money than he does.

    Hope these are correct - just googled Phins salary and found a fan site. I'm no cap expert.
     
  10. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Really? How much did JP talk after the first Patriot's game? What has Ray Lewis said lately? TO?

    B Scott talked after the first dolphins loss, jests got their butts kicked in the rematch and he has been silent since then.

    Notice the patter? Player talks crap about an upcoming opponent, gets helmet handed to them, stfu afterwards, there is a reason why coaches frown on trash talking, in a game of inches that smidgen more of motivation can be the difference between winning and losing.
     
  11. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    Exactly.....I think this place would be better off if we CRITIQUE the performance, but avoid criticizing the player, or coaching staff, or FO. To me, and perhaps one day everyone including the site Admins/Mods will agree, if TOS states that POSTS should not attack from a personal or emotional level a POSTER, I think the same should apply to Players, Coaching Staff, or FO. I believe much of the WARNINGS/BANS would be decreased and a better FAN site to discuss performance/direcation would be increased.

    You can still state what it is about a player that is disappointing, need of improvement, but its when a post is a personal attack about a player (who isn't here to defend themselves) and its a SUBJECTIVE OPINION (ie. He is a B****, a P****, etc), logic prevails that a response will be equally SUBJECTIVE and OPINIONATED about said Player or POSTER quite often (ie. That is so F**** Stupid to say that, etc).

    However, if the POST is about the performance (soft mentally/physically, bad routes, short armed, avoid contacts, bad block, play call, execution, etc), often the only responses is something along the lines of..."yeah, he is ticking me off too when he does that, however, he shows promise, has made key catches, has broken returns, Pancaked that dude, sets up plays and calls what he think will be executed properly, etc; but I am still hoping for the best"....all of which equal a much different discussion, and neither lessens their impact to either confirm a Player, Coach, FO personnel that is deemed to be disappointing to a Fan's perspective.

    Its the Ginn is a punk posts
    Its the Henning should be Fired posts
    Its the Fasano, Bess, Carey Sucks posts

    Those aren't adding to a debate and only going to cause a response in kind.

    We have the ability to clarify why we pump up players, or why we want to point out why one is disappointing. I just enjoy the discussion of why they are disappointing, without it getting to the THEY WILL ALWAYS DISAPPOINT when in fact they haven't ALWAYS disappointed us.

    Again, this is enough for me to harp on......one day, a Championship will indeed come to Miami, and I suspect all will be right with the FAN-DOM at that point. Doesn't mean a lick of spit of course, but will be an interesting few days around here when it happens I wager.

    Dang....Snow is still falling has to be 1-2" per hour....love it.:hi5:
     
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  12. PhiNomina

    PhiNomina White-Collar Redneck

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    Really surprised we are making such a big deal about this considering we have Joey Porter on our team - who recently called out Tom Brady.

    Panthers players called out Randy Moss a week ago.

    This is fairly common and doesn't mean that Ginn has lost the respect of the entire league or any of that - its the NFL - guys get called out all the time.

    Hell - Henning even called out the Jets a few weeks ago, didn't he?

    It is a non-issue.
     
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  13. LandShark13

    LandShark13 New Member

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    Meh it gives us something to talk about and read other than the same old dribble =)
     
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  14. like2god

    like2god Typical white person Luxury Box

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    Really? They're members of the site as well, their contributions matter just as much as ours and impact the site. I'm not afraid to call a spade a spade, when I see something that bothers me I speak up, I think all of this bickering back and forth and namecalling brings down the quality of the site.

    Because those are the people that are responding to my posts, the ones who agree thank me. I'm not going to respond to "thanks", I'm going to respond to the people who take issue with my opinion.

    TO can't talk because he's on a ****ty team in the middle of nowhere, that doesn't lessen his recent past in Dallas or his comments made before that.

    Johnson and Merriman are *****ing back and forth and issuing threats leading up to this weeks game, I believe Johnson said "I will beat Shawne's head in, right now. It's not even fun. This is not in fun. This is personal. Bring it on. It is what it is. I think he might be one of the only people I don't really get along with. I want to fight. I'm not sure how to get the fight on without him suing me.".

    Porter shouldn't even be in question, just ask Kellen Winslow, Levi Jones, etc.

    The Jet's coach said the exact same thing about Channing Crowder that Washington said about Ginn ("who is Channing Crowder?"), Bart Scott and Pace bashed everything from the wildcat to Chad Henne.

    To say that Washington's comments are unheard of in the NFL is completely inaccurate. Today's players can't shut their gums, they don't care about anything except self-promotion and *****ing to the media or on twitter. This is nothing new.

    That wasn't the case with the Jets who *****ed that the WC wasn't real football and Chad Henne wasn't a good QB, they talked after the game as well.
     
  15. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    That was 4 games or so ago, and the Patsies shut Joey Porter out in that game, they rose to the challenge.


    Easy to do when they don't play the pats again for 3 yrs.


    If that is your view, that is your view, to me it is denial does one really think that Chris Johnson brought up the cancelled race because he respected Ted Ginn? Or Kevin Mawae, a 38 yr old 12+ yr NFLveteran said he had never heard of Ted Ginn because he really had never heard of Ted Ginn? or a Wr who is likely not to play called out Ginn for being soft because they thought it would come back to haunt them? Of course not, they basically dismissed Ginn as a player and an offensive threat, but that is just my view.

    After we played them for the last time this season, there are reasons why it is rare that players/coaches call out teams or players before they play a game, they tend to end up with egg on their faces when they lose.
     
  16. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    3 years is enough time to develop a WR
    & he is a second round bust as a receiver
    however
    as a return specialist, he has shown promise
    & needs to be vetted properly before judged
    however
    money will ultimately play a major role
    how much is he worth on special teams?
    I think this is his the last season in Miami

    just hope we can pick something up for him
     
  17. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    We'll see, Ginn tends to show up in big games, the next three games do not come any bigger, let's see what he has for the playoff push.

    He caught a nice ball over the middle v the patsies on a slant route, imho he can run those all day long against the Titans and be pretty much wide open.

    No one, and I do mean no one, expects Teddy Ginn to catch passes over the middle of the field, that is an edge we have and I hope we use it to the fullest.
     
  18. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    I hope you're right
    no one likes to see a high draft choice go south
    but I don't see it happening @ WR
    however, I recognize Tenn. is an excellent opportunity
    it's the remaining games that concern me

    my hope for GinnJr. remains on special teams
    let him run back a touch down
    for every game that remains on the schedule
    let him show courage & resilience on punt returns
    that is his ticket to stay a Miami Dolphin

    @ best, he is a 4th WR, creating a deep threat
    he really needs to open up the return game to stick

    GinnJr is what he is & must contribute w/ consistency or parish
    remember: speed is one of the first things to diminish in a player

    he would be well advised to cash in on his speed early in his nfl career
     
  19. Fin-Omenal

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    We will have to agree to disagree on that bro, ofcourse everyone is different.
     
  20. PSG

    PSG Clear Eyes. Full Hearts.

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    Couldn't have said it better myself.
     
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  21. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    Just measured outside and we have 18 inches on our patio table here in Alexandria. We talked to someone while walking around outside who said this type of snowfall hasn't happened since 2003. We walked all the way to Wal-Mart to get a snow shovel and, of course, they were completely out. Oh well. We're enjoying it too. Stay warm!
     
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    Well IF Ginn has a big game It would be nice to see some people post on here "good job Teddy, way to help us get the win" instead of "he still needs to do it week in and week out" he WAS the #9 pick but that is no longer relevant time to man up and get over it. Take him for what he is worth and be happy when he makes a play that helps your football team win a game. We already know that a loss means 40 bad Ginn posts no matter what.

    The Ginn "apologizers" are the realists because they arent crying about a draft that happened in 2006. They (we) are simpley staying positive about a member of the Miami Dolphins and trying to believe he is better than what he has shown on the field, instead of *****ing and moaning and bashing one single player.

    I do my share of criticizing but It doesnt stop and start with Ted Ginn, and lets be "real" with some posters it does. Bess had has his share of mistakes and frankly is a very bad punt returner, but im not gonna go to photoshop and put his face on a turd waiving his arm for a fair catch.
     
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  23. Merauder

    Merauder Perseverance

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    Yeah cause nobody has said the exact same thing 1,000,000 times already. :pity:
     
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  24. PhiNomina

    PhiNomina White-Collar Redneck

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    My point was that this kind of thing goes on all the time - as another poster pointed out - it happened to Crowder earlier in the year.

    Yeah, they are disrespecting Ginn when they do this - obviously. My point is that it happens all the time - from the biggest superstar to the lowest KR specialist.

    And if you think Mawae has never heard of a player on the team he is playing against this week I would say you are mistaken.

    I get that they are disrespecting him, but if they thought he was so horrible as you believe - why would they mention him at all? It wouldn't be worth their time.
     
  25. Styla

    Styla #1 Davone Bess Fan!!!

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    And we will read it another 1,000,000 more times too:no:
     
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  26. SICK

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    ummmm.....we can ask for him to earn his paycheck. we can ask for him to stop *****ing out on routes across the middle. we can ask for him to run better routes. we can ask for him to catch balls that hit him in the hand. we can ask him to block better on runs to his side. we can ask for him to stay in bounds. we can ask for him to make us a cheeseburger.

    we can ask whatever we want. cause this is a fan forum for a team. the miami dolphins. i dont see anywhere it saying "100% positive towards every player if hes a dolphin"

    screw that. just because he plays for my favorite team, doesnt mean he gets a free pass.

    i wish it was that easy to just try your hardest.......and iam sorry. dont agree with him making plays when he has the chance. he got most of his chances taken away cause he wasnt doing enough with them.

    heres the bold answer to all of the questions........regardless if you hate or like ginn......the MIAMI DOLPHINS coaching staff benched him, and has reduced his role in our offense....which imo has very average WRs.

    if that doesnt blink bright as the sun as to how ginns doing this year....as far as meeting NOT MY EXPECTATIONS but the COACHES expectations......then i dunno what will

    seacrest out.
     
  27. Merauder

    Merauder Perseverance

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    You're missing the point. But thanks for saying what 100000000 other people have already said 10000000 times already. Great input.
     
  28. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    considering these one liners you keep repeating is all i see from you.....thanks for keeping this entire forum down :up:
     
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  29. Merauder

    Merauder Perseverance

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    Yeah? No problem. Next time I'll post one big meaningless paragraph. Thanks for repeating the same tired comments about Ginn. :up:
     
  30. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    as opposed to saying "we dont win the afc east last year without him" or "hes a miami dolphin! we should support him"

    over and over again? you mean like that?

    but wait.....you dont agree with my opinion....so its pointless and repetitive......if i said "ginns a dolphin, he will shine tomorrow" you would have thanked it.....lol (even though its the same stuff you have heard over and over)
     
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  31. Merauder

    Merauder Perseverance

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    The difference is....I'm choosing to focus on his contributions and effort to succeed as a Miami Dolphin. I'm choosing to focus on how he has helped the team, rather than how he hasn't. You are choosing to focus on his shortcomings.

    I'd rather show support during a crucial time in the season, rather than bash a guy who just might end up helping us make the playoffs(again). I really hope he does. Not because I want to come back here and say "Told you so.", but because I want everyone on the team to be successful and continue to make improvements. Obviously Ginn needs to improve his game, but seriously......do the same negative comments need to be repeated over and over on here about him? Tell me why it is necessary?
     
  32. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    my same question......why do the same "he may help us make the playoffs" (which he should) and "i want everyone to be successful" (who doesnt?) quotes not fall into the same "repeated over and over" category? cause it matches your opinion, so you dont bash that....right?
     
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  33. Styla

    Styla #1 Davone Bess Fan!!!

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    I called it.....:lol:
     
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  34. Styla

    Styla #1 Davone Bess Fan!!!

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    Maybe if we remember what he did for us last year and remember he is a Miami Dolphin and infact support him, you wouldnt have to read it over and over.:wink2:
     
  35. Merauder

    Merauder Perseverance

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    Well, if it wasn't for all the negativity I wouldn't have to respond with those comments. You want to put out negative energy, that's fine. But don't be surprised when someone like myself comes back with something positive to say.
     
  36. SICK

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    doing one thing good doesnt give you a pass from criticism for the rest of your career. sorry champ. and once again....i dont care if hes a dolphin. so is jake grove and i thought it was a **** signing considering his injury history, and so was gibril wilson who is a joke in coverage......

    i also disagree big time on the pat white pick......just cause they play for the dolphins imo doesnt mean they get me bowing down with praise. i dont have to like them as players.
     
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  37. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    I was neutral on Grove, and loved Wilson's signing. But then we signed Bell, which I didn't like, especially having just signed Wilson.
     
  38. SICK

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    well, wilson was exciting at first cause he was a "name" in dolphin fan world anyways lol. but i would rather resign bell (whos familiar with our team and system) who is basically the same player as wilson.....and get a real SS to play along bell.....
     
  39. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    I think you mean FS along Bell (because Bell plays SS), and I think Wilson should play SS. Wilson was my 2nd favorite SS (not who I thought was the 2nd best) so it had nothing to do with him being a "name."
     
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  40. Styla

    Styla #1 Davone Bess Fan!!!

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    Well since Enforcer gave you thanks, I will say this to him as well.

    Support the Miami Dolphins no matter who they are, if you like them or not. Those are the guys our FO has on the roster to get us a title.ok champ.

    :up:
     
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