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Soldier mom refuses deployment to care for baby

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by unluckyluciano, Nov 17, 2009.

  1. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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  2. TrueDolFan

    TrueDolFan Minion of Satan

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    This is just one of the MANY reasons why I don't think women should be in the military...
     
  3. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    pretty interesting story. I think what happened she submitted the plan, they had a trial run and the grandmother said she couldn't take care of the kid. So then the mother tells whoever, they tell her too bad she submitted the plan, and rather then thinking it through as now here child will more then likely be in foster care, she skipped her deployment.
     
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  4. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    Don't blame her.
     
  5. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    you aren't going to start a "how men are pigs" rant again are you?
     
  6. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    So they should take away (and possibly make her repay) all the benefits she's garnered from the military since she isn't going to hold up her end?
     
  7. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Why?

    While I can understand her choice, I don't see how it isn't her fault.
     
  8. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    for not leaving her kid in foster care? yeah I don't blame her either for not doing that.
     
  9. TrueDolFan

    TrueDolFan Minion of Satan

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    Where da baby daddy at?
     
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  10. dolfan32323

    dolfan32323 ty xphinfanx

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    Wow, what a sensitive subject. I don't blame her at all for doing what she did- hopefully the consequences are not too severe.
     
  11. unluckyluciano

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    says they are no longer together so im guessing he bounced.
     
  12. azfinfanmang

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    Really really tough call here. I don't blame her, but at the sametime, this isn't going to end well for her, and I also understand and agree with that.
    Lose-lose situation here.
     
  13. azfinfanmang

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    Think its time for a dead-beat dad lawsuit.
     
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  14. TrueDolFan

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    Who do you blame then? The Army?

    The Army isn't the one who decided to become a single mother without any support from the father or her own family.

    This woman is a turd, plain and simple. Nobody should feel sorry for her, she did this to herself. Now the taxpayers are likely going to have to foot the bill to raise this idiot's little rat.
     
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  15. Ultra

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    I'm torn on this too. Without hearing both sides equally on this I don't think we should start judging her. Did she join the Army as a single parent? Was she in a relationship when she had the baby? These are important pieces of info...
     
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  16. Stitches

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    She is at fault, how do you not place the blame on her?

    Like I said, I can understand why she did it, but that does not make her absolved of fault.
     
  17. unluckyluciano

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    i kind of read it as she wasn't a single parent, then the husband left........... to be honest I think her mother really screwed her over by deciding she can't handle the extra boy. if the mother was going to take care of the kid she should have been willing to get rid of one of the kids she babysits, or find a way, otherwise she shouldn't have agreed.
     
  18. unluckyluciano

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    i never said she wasn't at fault. but I do not blame her for not wanting her kid in foster care, given the state of the foster system. there is a difference between I blame her for being in the situation versus I do not blame her, in other words I can understand why, she did not want to leave the kid in foster care.
     
  19. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    Never said it wasn't her fault. But I don't blame her. I'd have done the same thing.

    It's funny that with all the ****ty parenting, child abuse and neglect that goes on these days some are willing to bash this mother.

    And she was a ****ing cook for christs sake. Huge loss by not being deployed.
     
  20. Muck

    Muck Throwback Uniform Crusader Retired Administrator

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    So she 'decided' to become a single mother, with no support from the father or anybody? Ever wonder why she might have entered the military in the first place?

    I find this entire post to be based highly on assumption and a bit offensive. We know very little about her situation other than it's a pretty tough set of circumstances.

    Walk a mile in her shoes.
     
  21. TrueDolFan

    TrueDolFan Minion of Satan

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    I didn't assume anything. She made a concious choice to have a baby out of wedlock. That is deciding to become a single mother. If you decide to have a child when you're not married, you're doing that child, not to mention our society, a great disservice.

    Frankly, I don't care WHY she entered the military. It doesn't matter. The fact is that she entered, and now is reneging on her obligation to serve. She is a turd.
     
  22. DaFish

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    I would pick my child too.
     
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  23. Ultra

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    this is an assumption. she may have been living with the guy; been together for 10 years, etc. we don't know the whole story.
     
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  24. DaFish

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    There are a lot of things we do not know about this story.
     
  25. 1armychick

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    I'm in the Army. What she did was wrong. Period. If she didn't have family care, there are ways out. It's called a Chapter 8 and it isn't dishonorable. It just releases you from the remainder of your obligation. Her supervisor was in the wrong for not helping her, too.

    As far as your comment goes, no, she shouldn't pay back all the benefits she has received. She has served time. If she received a bonus, it will be prorated for what she has served, and the remaining time on her contract would have to be repaid. As far as taking away her benefits, she hasn't been charged yet. If she is, she will lose any college aid and health benefits, not to mention the possibility of facing jail time.

    What you should do is spend time in boots and realize that situations arise that really are unescapable. If you have spent time in them, lighten up.
     
  26. 1armychick

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    You are a complete, close minded idiot. You are obviously the result of a two-parent family, and from where I stand, you turned out worse than ANY of those raised by a single parent. Your parents must be so proud!
     
  27. TrueDolFan

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    She's 21, she couldn't have been living with this dude for long.

    Besides, the whole story doesn't matter. They weren't married or planning on getting married.

    Yet another shameless single mother who is a burden on the rest of us. :pity:
     
  28. Sethdaddy8

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    if there ever was a reason to go awol, this is it.
     
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  29. Coral Reefer

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    Lol...

    Come on Stitch.... really?

    Our govt. is giving out Billions to millionaires who ran busniesses into the ground without any checks and balances and you're concerned that this lady who has been serving but just refused to leave her kid to deploy overseas should pay back benefits?

    Obviously something needs to be done with this situation.
    There needs to be some sort of punishment and a change of orders or just a dismissal from the military but what she's done here is nothing to be enraged over.
     
  30. Stitches

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    Not really, I meant to put a question mark at the end (not a period) because I didn't know if that's what they did to remedy the situation (forfeiture of benefits I mean).

    But I'm concerned about the lady yes, because that's who the story is about.
     
  31. TrueDolFan

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    Yes, I am the result of a two-parent family. You say that like that's a BAD thing... :no:

    Because I think this woman who had a child out of wedlock and reneged on her duties is a turd, you think I am a bad person?

    You disagree with me, so you attack me. Remind me again of who's the "close-minded idiot"? :pity:
     
  32. HardKoreXXX

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    Pretty broad brush you're painting with there dude.
     
  33. Dannyg28

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    quick question, are you pro-choice?
     
  34. TrueDolFan

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    Yes, I am.
     
  35. TrueDolFan

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    Yeah, but not really. Of all the unmarried single mothers out there, how many do you think DON'T receive government benefits?

    I'd be willing to bet everything I own that the number is staggeringly low.
     
  36. NaboCane

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    The crux, the blame should go on whoever told her she'd have to deploy anyway after her arrangements fell through and PUT HER CHILD IN FOSTER CARE.

    That moronic sadist should be cleaning floors on the night shift, where he can't affect others instead of determining other peoples' fates.

    Given that choice, I'd say 100 of 100 good mothers would do the same as this woman did.
     
  37. Firesole

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    i love when people who have never served offer so many actions on what should happen to this woman. IMO, if you haven't served in the military, your opinion really doesn't mean squat on how the military should handle their own.
     
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  38. jetssuck

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    I'm not absolving the woman of any fault in this but damn......."we need you to go work the grill, so give us your kid so we can put it in foster care"

    There's just no way you can put that where it sounds the least bit acceptable.
     
  39. Stitches

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    No ones opinion here means squat anyway, unless one of us actually plays a role in the army's decision as to what should happen next. It's simply something to talk about.

    I guess no one should be allowed to talk in the pofo about government officials unless they've actually been in office, huh?
     
  40. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    yea, the people in charge of PR for the Army must of set the record for the most curse words said in one breath, when they heard of this story.
     

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