ESPN thinks Dolphins will Buy before Trade Deadline

I dont think we will make a trade for a reciever....

I think we will wait to see exactly what we have in Turner and Hartline...

Would rather keep our draft picks honestly....

 

I still don't see KC trading Bowe. Why he's even considered "On the Block" I'm not sure.

 

I think the Braylon Edwards deal has made people trade crazy. These deadline deals are very rare in the NFL.

 

Agreed. Though I would love him for the record, and would give up a 2nd without hesitation.

 

I'd give up a 2nd and Turner for Bowe

Heck, I might even be satisfied giving up a 1st and Turner for Bowe.

This guy is young
This guy is proven
This guy is developed and
This guy has prospered on a bad team. Imagine what he could do in a competitive offense.

So our options are:

A) Keep what you have, draft a WR with our 1st in 2010 and wait 2-3 years for him to develop hoping he'll reach anywhere near where Bowe currently is. And it would be in 2012 or 2013

or

B) Use your 2010 1st on Bowe and already have the dominating developed WR at 24 years old at week 7 of 2009.


The key that we all have to remember is how young Bowe is. He came out the same year as Ginn. This isn't Boldin who was drafted early in the decade on the tail end of his career here. Bowe would be here for a LOOOONG time.

 

I cant see Parcells giving up a 1st for a player who will touch the ball 5 or 6 times a game. We are a running team. Thats what we do. Receivers are simply not as important to us as they might be to the Colts or teams like that.

 

Yeah, I don't think WR is as high a priority for the FO as it is for the fans. If we were to bring in a target for Henne I think it would be a big redzone specialist, but I would lean more towards a TE than I would a receiver.

 

Bowe would be the last piece to our offense and then we can focus on improving the D.

 

I think I'd be onboard with giving up a first for Bowe, its not a desperate win now deal, age wise he fits in great with the rest of our offense.

Pass catching TE, coverage safety and an inside backer in the draft and we're ready for the big game!!!

That is if we don't get there this season of course. Are there any ball hawking safeties we could be looking at in a trade?

 

I also read T.O. trading rumors possibly with the Dolphins. I don't see how that can be further from the truth because if sources are correct in stating that the Dolphins passed up on Edwards for chemistry reasons, how could T.O. even be jokingly considered?

All this trade rumor talk about D. Bowe has me distracted from midterms. The next 6 days are going to last a year.

 

But you'd have to admit Bowe across from Ginn with Bess in the Slot and Greg C as the fourth Wr has potential to be great.

The problem is, it would take a #1 pick and maybe #4, basically the Chiefs would own our draft, that is not going to happen, not with Greg C playing well after the ACL.

Which sort of brings up another point, all of that blather about "wr are not getting open" seems to have disappeared with Henne as the Qb, the guys we already have could be alot better than they were under Penny.

Henne can thrown into windows that Pennington would never even attempt.

 

No question that adding more talent to the group would make them better, I just question whether it would be a wise move considering price tag and his role on a run oriented team.

Hmmm.....where have we heard that before?



Even though they played very well, it was just one game and Henne will have his struggles. But you're right, he adds a new dimension to the offense that will allow our players (both WR and RB) more room to operate. Most people made up their minds about our players based on what they were doing in a Pennington led offense and disregarding how opposing defenses played us, Henne showed what can happen when you have a strong armed QB with savvy who can throw deep, put zip on the ball and run the playaction like a pro.

 

Even though they played very well, it was just one game and Henne will have his struggles. But you're right, he adds a new dimension to the offense that will allow our players (both WR and RB) more room to operate. Most people made up their minds about our players based on what they were doing in a Pennington led offense and disregarding how opposing defenses played us, Henne showed what can happen when you have a strong armed QB with savvy who can throw deep, put zip on the ball and run the playaction like a pro.

You forgot fearless...






And yeh,we will have to see how teams start to prepare for Henne now that they have descent film on him.He WILL have some hickups down the road.

 

That too

I think he'll do fine, even the best players have their rough stretches. It's how he recovers from them that will determine what type of NFL player he's going to be.

 

Henne threw the running backs more than Penny ever did, that really stood out to me, Polite, RW, Ronnie, those were forgotten men with Penny at the helm.

And to be really honest, I think Penny lost faith in Fasano, and that is why he has something of a re-emergence the last two games, so a receiving TE may not be the need it looked to be a couple of weeks ago.

Meaning...kick returner should be on the buy list, but maybe not Higgins, he injured his shoulder and has not been right since, no way we take a chance on him.

Joshua Cribbs though, ex Qb, returns punts and kickoffs, and the Qb resume could mean something in the WC, he is also fairly young.

 

Well I don't know, Penny did use them some, though not nearly enough in Ronnie's case. Which is odd seeing that Pennington favored a short zone, commonsense would suggest that the RB's would be his lifeline in the same way that a TE is for a rookie QB.

But Henne did make good use of them, I wonder how much of that was by design (coaching staff) to help the young QB play safe and how much of it was him checking down. Either way, he didn't make any bad decisions out there, that was really impressive.

Could be

I don't know about the other part, with Martin down we really don't have that sure handed second option at TE that the team likes to use. Haynos is playing there out of necessity, I don't think the FO feels that he is the answer. If we were going to upgrade the passing game in any way, I think a TE would be the focus.

I still contend that until we fix the blocking on ST's, it won't matter who we put out there, they will all look like plop. Ginn is our best option IMO, if the team wants to keep him fresh for his WR duties, then I say we try to squeeze some value out of Pat White and play him there. We need to use our best open field players, White would be next in line I guess.

 

not going to happen
Roth won't make the trade deadline
Parcells will work with what he has
then draft a WR @ the end of the year

 

I'll take one of those too please...

 

Dwayne Bowe would be a great fit. That guy is a big target and and awesome talent. I would assume that Matt Roth and a mid level pick wouldn't get it done. I would figure that one of our receivers would have to be sent back as well, a young one (Turner, Bess, or Hartline).

 

I would be incredibly surprised if we made any trade. We just now started the Henne-Ginn era and I'd like to see how that pans out this year. Plus, we'd possibly be 4-1 with good/better safety play. Take out plays from Rivers to Jackson/Floyd, Manning to Garcon/Clark, Sanchez to Edwards (including the bogus calls) and our defense looks incredibly improved and our offense would have scored more than enough to win. IMO offense is not the biggest priority. What we need more is someone on the back end that can make plays so we're not constantly giving up the big play. We may even have that person already on the roster in Clemons. With some development Clemons may be that free safety that we need albeit probably not until next year.

 

But wouldn't you risk a 1 and 4 to be great? Don't you have to?

You still have a 2, 3 and FA to address the defense next off season.

And regardless of how unlikely it is, his name has been thrown around enough to at least merit our taking the time to inquire. Let's hope they do..

 

I very highly disagree. Bowe is the difference between a decent offense and a dominant offense. Unlike the current WR's on our roster, Bowe will take those 5-6 touches, and make plays with them. No WR on this roster has the ability to break a tackle and pick up YAC, not at all. Bowe would add a dimension to this offense that will have D-Coordinators crying themselves to sleep before they play us. Case in point, Bowe would help make the running game, even better than it already is, and with Ginn on the other side, teams cannot put 8 in the box, ever. He's the difference between an early exit out of the playoffs, and a chance at a Superbowl.

 

Bowe is a redzone target. The guy does it all.

 

I hate trading away draft picks. But the chances of us getting a player who can be as much of an impact as Bowe could, isn't as good as you'd want. Bowe is one of the only exceptions I'd give up a 1st for. Offense is dominant then and will keep you in all games. Work on replacing Wilson/Bell with a true FS (I really like Clemons), get an ILB, and a NT (Solia has impressed me this year), and as young as this team is, we'll be a contender for a very, very long time.

 

Rumors are that Glenn Dorsey is on the block too. Probably too pricey. But a nice replacement for Jason Ferguson heading into next season...?

 

He's a 4-3 DT, 3-4 DE. So I'd have to say no thanks. But if Cleveland wants to sell Shaun Rodgers, I'd be on top of that bandwagon. Not going to happen though unfortunately, teams just don't give away young, talented 3-4 NT's

 

He's played average at best so far. He's bordering on bust. Add in his contract and I would wait until it expires before considering it

 

I just dont think we throw it enough to justify it. If we were to make a move I think it would be for linebacker or FS to improve our defense which has more holes than the offense

 

His contract is insanely high.

Plus it would prob take at least a 1st and a 3rd or something on that level.


I would absolutely love for us to add another piece to our D though. Way more than I would want a WR (unless we can get Bowe on the cheap).

 

I would love to get a Bowe or even a 4th for T.O.

Both of those guys bring fire, and getting traded should break them down to the point where they aren't a premadonna.

Atleast Owens wouldnt be a primadonna---gettign traded for a 4th round picks lets you know you've lost your value.

 

No offense, but I really can't see one good reason to trade for T.O.

 

There's no chance in hell the Chiefs would give up Bowe.

Murphy for Turner would be a fair trade

 

My reason would be the low pick cost, the fact he's one and done, and the fact that he should be used to Parcells/Sparanos' style of offense. I wouldnt be surprised to hear they have similar terminology.

Not to mention, Owens should open the field up more for Brown and Ricky. If not for his performance this year, atleast witht he level of respect he's earned from defenses over the years.

He may lose a step, but you still have to account for him on the field. Owens would be a BIG Redzone target, and possibly a decent possession receiver-- opening up Ginn for more of a down the field role.

 

We have most of those things without him. Henne taking the helm changes a lot, for the better.

I seriously doubt Owens ability to jump in and be successful right now. Not to mention that his play looks like it's continuing to go downhill.

 

Yeah, as I said, I didn't think it was very realistic for what they would want. I really think we need to look at our LB corps going into the offseason. The old guys got...old and Channing isn't a world beater (although I think he has played better than most give him credit for).

I think they secondary will be better with experience and our D-line seems poised to be good for awhile (Merling, Soliai, Langford). Our linebackers scare me a tad, so I tend to agree in that adding someone there would be beneficial for us. Moreso than a wideout.

Unless, of course, as you said, we get Bowe on the cheap.

 

The same thing with Ayodele. They're playing good, right now, but they aren't anywhere close to great.

Our LBs are def where the concern is. The two guys who are going to determine what happens are prob Matt Roth and Cam Wake.

Does Wake get more time going forward (I didn't see him much very much on Mon)? Roth says he's healthy now, but is he better than JT and do we want him or trade him?

 

Wow, I have really never seen much on Bowe before, but that video was freaking SICK.
Seeing him break tackles like that...all I could think about was how much that attitude fits with our offense's attitude. Make it happen pl0x.

 

Matt Roth for Dwayne Bowe would work.

 

...except Roth is not eligible for trade this season. he is not eligible to return until the Jests game now. The by week does not count now.

 

On what planet is Matt Roth equal value to Dwayne Bowe? While we're trading in dream land, how bout Jason Allen for Aaron Curry?