Penny has a dislocated shoulder...maybe

Jeeze, that's rough. Lets hope the MRI comes back with a good prognosis

 

You mean negative?

 

Someone please pinch me. This cant be real.

 

I meant positive in terms of outlook, like, a good thing... Maybe I should go back and edit that...

 

That espisode of The Office was a classic.

 

when the hell are supposed to know the results. he's had the tests already hasnt he?

 

I think its safe to say Henne will be taking snaps with the first Unit this week

 

This is exactly how I feel. It would suck to have to draft ANOTHER QB next year but it feels like we might have to.

Henne prove me wrong PLEASE!!!

 

ESPN is reporting Penny is done for the season.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4512011

 

That's really rough, this probably spells the end of Pennington's career as a Dolphin, unless he accepts a backup/coaching position.

If things don't pan out, I hope he at least finds work somewhere again starting in the league.

Jeeze, I'm more sad about this than I am the loss yesterday

 

Kind of makes you curious as to who they might pickup to be the 3 QB? Seems like they might pick up someone with experience but who might that be?

 

My guess is a late round pick for a veteran backup. Not really sure who's out there though. Philly has Jeff Garcia, and now that Kolb is playing better and McNabb back soon, they'll have no need for 4 QB's. Who knows.

 

I wouldn't even give up a draft pick. Whoever it is, they are going to sit behind Henne and more than likely Pat White.

 

Within reason, I agree. I think all of this blabbering over his performance yesterday is ridiculous (I admittedly didn't get to watch the game). The kid didn't get any practice time with the first team offense, he was thrown into the game cold, that's huge IMO. I'll reserve judgment on him until he has a few weeks of practice and games under his belt before I comment further. As always I caution patience, he's going to struggle and we can't overreact to every bad pass during the game and then start 20 threads that he's a bust. Logging in last night and reading this board was painful, I thought we left that type of thing behind us.

 

Yeah, cause veterans and stars NEVER throw pick sixes.../sarcasm. The kid was in his first meaningful NFL game, and he han't been getting snaps with first team. The attitude that you're displaying, Padre, is exactly what is wrong with fans. Give hime a couple games before you start dumping in him. I mean, if Ryan or Flacco or Sanchez had been a Phin, I bet they woukdn't have looked as good as they do on other teams, and we'd have fans on here calling them busts after their first game.

It just gets really old. Young players are going to make mistakes. That's part of being a young player.
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Just had an epiphany:

People don't join message boards to read others' opinions or to express any of their own on the topic of the players and the team...

they join message boards so that they can tell OTHER people what they SHOULD be thinking!

Okay, I got it now.

 

Chad threw 2 INT's this season, yet he's still talked about as a QB who makes good decisions and protects the ball. If two mistakes is what it takes to bring legitimate criticism to the forefront to be discussed, let start there.

Fact is, no player is perfect, they all make mistakes and will continue to make mistakes in the future. Take a look at Farve's first NFL game as a great example that you can't judge a player based on first impressions.

My wish? I don't remember wishing for Chad to get hurt or our team to lose a game the way we did. Of course I'm excited to see what Henne can do, but that doesn't mean that I wanted this to happen.

As far as Ginn, I didn't see the game, but I can't imagine that any player would have looked good with an unfamiliar QB and no chemistry due to a lack of practice time together. The coaches set out on a gameplan going into each game, they aren't going to toss it out and start anew once a QB goes down, so I wouldn't hav expected Miami to become the Saints once Pennington went down. I hope we do see a more open offense, with a week or two of practicing and drawing up new plays this offense could be fun to watch with Henne's arm and Ginn ability to get open deep.

Que?

 

padre31, as I recall from the film, that int lob into the endzone he actually had one or two people open on the sideline. Maybe a bullet there gives us a better chance. he gets no pass there.

 

I agree with a lot of comments on this thread. Lets see what Henne can do, but like many people have said on this thread, don't give him till sunday, give him the rest of the season if he ends up playing the rest of the games.

It takes time for a QB to develop chemistry with his team, and considering Henne hasn't played with the first team, its hard to expect them all to be on the same page after his first week of snaps with the first team.

 

If a dropped pass is a dropped pass for Ginn regardless with whether it was a poorly thrown ball or if he was being hacked, then the same rules should apply for Pennington, no?

If you call going 0-4 with 2 interceptions (the 1st being returned for a TD) in his first game "okay", why all of the negativity towards Henne?

I wanted to see what Henne could do, but it was more curiosity than it was "I want". I understand that Henne is going to have growing pains, as all young players do, and I realized that the other Chad gave us our best chance to win. If Pennington were to falter and we were out of contention or he got injured, that's when I expected to see Henne get in there. Now that he is, I'm happy for him and bummed for Penny and the team. But now we get to glimpse the future and watch Henne develop, I wish him the same success that I wish on all of the players.

Our seasons outlook has changed, we're now in a "win if we can, but gosh darn it all to heck, we're going to let this kid take his lumps" mode. It's going to take time for Henne and the rest of the offense to get into a rhythm, anyone expecting them to light it up in the first quarter against the Bills is expecting too much. I think that's a problem with alot of folks, high expectations with zero room for mistakes, if someone drops a pass or throws an INT or misses a tackle they are a bust and become the new whipping boy of the forum.

We'll see how he does, I'm just hoping that the coaching staff is willing to open up the offense to take advantage of our players abilities.

 

Craig Erickson, there's a name from the past. Boy, Jimmy Johnson really wanted him to be the man here.

 

Doesn't matter, an INT is still an INT if other factors like pass quality mean nothing when speaking of a dropped pass. If one is going to make a case that Ginn has failed miserably, someone else could just as easily make the case that Pennington has failed miserably by using the same argument. I chose Pennington because I know you supported him vigorously.

I have been very vocal for my dislike of the Grove signing, but I never said that I wanted him to fail because that would mean that the team would fail. If pointing out the injury history for players like Grove, Smiley, Thomas, etc to keep a conversation honest is considered negativity, I'll wear that flag with honor.

Don't make me post the team's record and remaining schedule padre...

Back to Ginn

Ginn was drafted to be the burner that we sorely needed, Green didn't have the arm to take advantage of his abilities (infact I remember Green not even looking in his direction when he was wide open. Where have we heard that recently?). Because of our QB's lack of arm strength and inability to make plays with their arm (think our 2 minute meltdown vs Indy) Ginn has had to become a more well rounded WR and has had to abandon his game. Now that he'll have a QB who trusts him arm and can actually throw the ball more than 15 yards with zip, he hopefully will be able to do what he was drafted to do, that's stretching the field (and defenses) with his speed. Now the opposing defenses will have to respect his ability to get open, now he'll have a QB who has the ability get him the ball deep and make them pay. If Henne can do that on a consistent basis, both of them will be just fine. Then you'll have to find yourself a new whipping boy. Might I suggest Channing Crowder?

 

There are some who respond maturely with logic and thought. There are some that keep an open mind and have a light hearted even entertaining contribution. There are some who blindly follow one or more players thinking they can do no wrong. There are some who just want someone to fail so they can be right or so they can revel in someone elses downfall. There are many long true thru thick and thin fans. There are many fair weather fans.

There is good and bad in all message boards. The thing to do is ignore the bad written by someone having emotional or chemical issues and just enjoy the good. Oh crap I just told people what to do...it's an epidemic, we're doomed.

 

Lol. That isn't even the same thing. People, in general, view an interception as a mistake by the QB. Chad didn't make a mistake when he threw the hail mary at then end of the colts game, he had to throw a pass into 6 defenders. It was not a 'bad read' on his part. And to try and say it's the same thing puzzles me.


Just to clarify. I support Henne. I hope he does well. My only argument was that Henne wasn't going to come in for Pennington and rescue this offense, this year. Seemed like many were calling for Pennington to be benched for Henne, I just disagree with that.

 

Wow. Just wow. Henne's arm will solve everything. It will even complete hail mary passes against prevent defenses. AWESOME!

So if Henne throws a hail mary pick at the end of the half or game.. you guys aren't going to let him slide on that correct? He deserves to be held accountable like Pennington is.

 

But it is the same thing, people are looking at Ginn and saying "I don't care what other factors may have played into his drops, a drop is a drop". So I applied the same logic to Chad, I don't care what other factors may have contributed to his interceptions, an INT is an INT.