What I did not like about the Jacksonville Game

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  1. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Well, I've got some issues after rewatching the game for the second time.

    1. Waay to undisciplined, too many flags, that is not Sparano Ball

    2. Eric Green is Sparano's Tavares Tillman

    3. Starter against Starter, the Jags Dline won the battle in the running game

    4. The TPain song

    5.Guys were not making plays for P White, his stat line says "2-7 1 int" but he played much better than that he cannot throw and catch his own passes.

    I did like the fact our 3rd team defense was not going to roll over and give up a score, and I did think our Special Teams units played well.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. Crappy Tipper

    Crappy Tipper AKA Hero13

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    Oh yea, I forgot Eric "The Top" Green getting spun around and giving up nearly every catch thrown his way.

    The running game was a concern of mine as well, though Jacksonville has some pretty meaty dudes in the middle of that DLine, plus we didn't try much outside.
     
  3. Vengeful Odin

    Vengeful Odin Norse Mod

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    :lol: @ #4 Padre ... my comment in the game thread was "MY EARS! DEAR GOD MY EARS!"

    I thought that we were pretty disciplined, there was some miscommunication and things like that, but then again, it was the first preseason game. Most of our penalties came with the second and third team, the only first team penalty was Don Thomas's false start.

    I agree that Eric Green looked pretty darned bad, but then again, the Jags were clearly targeting him. Vontae made some mistakes and didn't look all that impressive either.

    It's a good effort to build on - be glad we looked like this now and not in week 1 of the regular season.
     
  4. anlgp

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    I didn't like all those Jacksonville penalties :lol: they slowed the game down horribly.
     
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  5. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Two penalties were completely ticky tack, vontae's playful touch on the returner, and the late hit on our saftey was a joke.
     
  6. mbmonk

    mbmonk I have no clue

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    Off top, I like the Tpain song. Well like is a relavite word. It's not horrible, it's just not good either. The fight song needs to be updated. I give them an A for effort on that, C- for execution.

    Eric Green... wow. Not a good debut. He unless lighting strikes Smith he isn't going to sniff the starting lineup.

    Oline was disappointing, but I am still hopeful. Two new starters on the Oline so that might be part of it. We didn't iron out the kinks in the Oline last year until the 3rd or 4th game, so I will be patient.

    I was slightly surprised that Randy Starks started over Merlin. All the training camp articles suggest he would, but I was expecting Merlin for some reason. I hope whoever it is plays well in the regular season. If they can't keep the Oline off our LB's then stopping the run is going to be an issue.
     
  7. firedan

    firedan Well-Known Member

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    Ithought it looked like the first preseason football game.
    Defence ahead of the offfence as it usualy is this time of year.
    The offensive line has to run block better,it take a little while time for them to get thier timeing down,I think they will and we should see improvement Saturday.
     
  8. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    White was rather inaccurate, IMO. The interception wasn't his fault though, but it was a fullback (I think) who tried to catch the pass...
     
  9. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    I just hope Green doesn't get the nod because "I won't start a rookie Cb in the first game".

    I used to call Tillman "asbestos helmet" Green may need a nickname like "runway" or "I-22" when you need to move the ball, go that route..
     
  10. mbmonk

    mbmonk I have no clue

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    Interesting. I thought his passes were surprisingly accurate. The one thing I noticed is he seemed to lock on to his recievers, and he scrambles when he could simply move up in the pocket. But it's early.
     
  11. Crappy Tipper

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    He really did look lost out there and for a guy coming in against the second string offense he should have stood out if he wanted to be the starting corner.
     
  12. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    Is there somewhere else he is supposed to hit the reciever other than his hands?
     
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  13. Skeet84

    Skeet84 New Member

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    Pat White cant play in the pocket and thats a problem. I was very unimpressed with him but the INT was not his fault.

    Our Special Teams is still pretty bad.
     
  14. GISH

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    Pat White was very accurate. I dont know what game you guys were watching. He did a great job.
     
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  15. Stitches

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    I was more impressed by White, as he was better than I expected. But I did feel like he was out of place in the pocket. His throws were fine for the most part. The INT was no doubt Kimble's fault.
     
  16. Lt Dan

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    1st preseason game. Nuff' said
     
  17. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    At this point, Nate Jones and Jason Allen (did I really say that!?!) are easily ahead of Green.
     
  18. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Green was as bad or worse than Reggie Howard.
     
  19. mbmonk

    mbmonk I have no clue

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    Was he worse than Terry Cousins? :lol:
     
  20. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    Vontae Davis.
     
  21. Crappy Tipper

    Crappy Tipper AKA Hero13

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    Barring a major turn around he's making the first set of cuts pretty easy for the coaches.
     
  22. Onehondo

    Onehondo Senior Member Club Member

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    Green, Cousins or how about Jamar Fletcher?
     
  23. padre31

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    Hey, we're Phinfans, it's not like anyone is saying "Vontae Davis is a bust"..

    Or are they..:shifty:
     
  24. Silverphin

    Silverphin Well-Known Member

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    Thoughts are in bold.
     
  25. UsedPorno

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    Cousin was actually solid in his one year with the Dolphins. Carolina threw a lot of money at him in free agency and he left-which I believe is what led to the Reggie Howard acquisition.
     
  26. DOLPHAN1

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    Maybe I'm, way off base here but I thought the O line did a fair job compared to last season. The RB's were getting hit mostly at the line rather than behind the LOS. A few times it seemed as though we were about to break a couple good gains. These guys are still learning each other. I think once D Thomas is back full time with the firsts and they play consistently we will begin to see some real holes begin to open.
     
  27. mbmonk

    mbmonk I have no clue

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    Everytime the other team converted 3rd and long it seemed like Cousins was the one in coverage, but that is just what I remember.
     
  28. Eop05

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    OT, I can't remember but was Nick Saban responsible for the acquisition of Reggie Howard?
     
  29. SCPhinFan

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    Yeah, at this point Green is not even close to starting. It will be between him and Jason Allen for which one gets the axe. I think Green will be looking for employment in September.
     
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  30. dolfan7171

    dolfan7171 Well-Known Member

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    I was just glad to see a game. It's been a long time coming and I was just happy to see it. Yes, there was some ups and downs but hey, it is the first game. Did anyone think the Dolphins would be in midseason already?
     
  31. Fin Fan In Cali

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    Padre I missed the second half. Did anyone stand out bro?
     
  32. cnc66

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    John, they are having another broadcast Thursday evening on NFL network!
     
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  33. Fin Fan In Cali

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    Thanks Brother!:up:
     
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  34. PhinsRock

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    It was the first preseason game, pretty much exposed our areas we need to work on, like the first string OL/running game. Vontae learned a few lessons, and Smith showed he will be our starting CB opposite Will Allen - I like that! Green looked like this year's Wilford, and Wilford looked like he wants to make the team.

    All in all a lot of fodder for Tony to chew on some players in today's team meetings.
     
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  35. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    Green looks like the love child of Jamar Fletcher and Reggie Hayward.
     
  36. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Actually...some really did, Q Moses and Wake did, Torbor, White (imho) Armstrong, R Wright..
     
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  37. alen1

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    Rodrique Wright looks pretty good every time I see him. I can't help but think that we could get a late rounder for him. Possibly send him to a Tampa 2 team.
     
  38. Anonymous

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    Is Jason Allen actually impressing, or is Eric Green that bad?
     
  39. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    its kinda tough to tell, he was playin with the thirds, but he showed a discipline in his game, an ability to think and use that athletisism at the same time, made some nice tackles, won the game on a great pass defense on the goal line, i said he would make the team and iam not backin off that statement now...Hes got range, hes got speed, hes not afraid to stick someone, he lacks some mentals for the position, but with our vets on the field to protect him somewhat, i want that athletisism on the this team.
     
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  40. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Actually...

    I thought we looked pretty damned good for a first pre season game. With all of the motion on the offense...I cant remember a false start..or at least one that was glaring. Well, there was the one Henne kinda caused at the goal line, but that was the play clock going down...

    Hell...Illl say it. Our ST's looks lightyears better than last season.

    I saw something good out of the key areas I wanted to. Shawn Smith....Teddy Gin....Chad Henne....and pressure from the D.

    Very solid effort and yeh..there were some mistakes...but for a first pre season..Ive seen much worse efforts.
     
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