Starting to sound like Patrick Turner is the real deal....

IMO, this is a great thing for us. Obvious, I know. But its nice to hear positive things about both receivers that we drafted that almost everyone has doubted. If both of these guys make it, and if one of them (my money is on Turner) really breaks out, our passing attack gets that much better, its great to hear he is off to a great start.. Of course, its only training camp. Hope he can keep it up through the preseason games too.

 

Good things to hear, lets hope he keeps it up and turns into the next Larry Fitzgerald. Now THAT would be outstanding.

 

I'm very high on Turner. If he brings what he had at USC to us he'll be very good possession receiver for us...especially on 3rd down. He's not Larry Fitzgerald but he'll be physical and will use his body to shield the corners to make catches with his sure hands.

 

Turner and Ginn and Bess would be really nice starting lineup of wr.

The thing about Turner is, we have to wait and see what happens when he is jacked up going over the middle, he's huge but that also makes him a bigger target for the Polamuala and Adrian Wilson's of the NFL.

 

I think our WRs will suprise some people.

 

Very comforting to hear our rookie WRs are doing well.

I'm kind of taking those two picks and using them to gauge how well our FO is at evaluating talent. Look how much criticism they got when they “reached” for these guys. If they turn out to be solid players, I will never question them again.

 

Turner's bread and butter is in the middle. He'll be the one jacking up Polamalu!

Ginn and Bess are growing well according to reports. A bigger, livelier Bess takes him that much closer to Henning's favorite receiver in a Steve Smith clone. If the game is truely slowing down for Ginn as Sporano suggests then he'll breakout like we all expect. It'll be a pretty exciting group to watch.

 

We already know that we have some decent and underrated receivers in Camarillo and Bess. Ginn had a decent year last year and by all accounts is looking better this year. Now we have Turner getting rave reviews and Hartline seems to be doing well as well.

We have good receivers! We have a lot of good receivers! I'm not used to this. We don't just have 1 or 2. We have 5 potentially good receivers. And we still have Armstrong and London. I can't remember us being this stacked at receiver for a long time. And I think it all comes down to coaching. We've had talented guys but it's been years since we've had this much talent and a coaching staff who could make use of it and develop it. If Henne is as good as they think he is imagine what he's going to be able to do with those receivers next year. I think next year we will have the weapons to be a high powered air-attack offense. I'm really excited!

 

Let's not go overboard here. You know who else got "rave" reviews this time of year? Derek Hagan.

 

bingo! its easy to get excited....but turner has yet to catch a pass in a scrimmage let alone a game......lets be careful fellas......jackin up polumalu and comparisons to fitzy is kinda ridiculous at this point.......i hope to god hes really good

 

You know what a fan of Turner I am, but he has some distance to travel to be even a starter in the NFL let alone Fitzy or whacking Troy P.

And besides, if he compares to anyone it would be Anquan Boldin, only he is faster coming out of college...

 

To me the most significant thing about that is that he beat Will Allen twice. Its one thing if he is looking great against third or fourth string guys who likely wont even make the team, its another if its against our best corner, who is actually very good.

 

its 1 v 1.
I love the fact that patrick is doing some damage vs Will, lets not forget that he has 4 inches on him at very least. I know its not an excuse by any means, but lets keep that in the back of our heads, especially in 1 v 1 drills.

 

to long

 

Difference between Hagan and Turner though, is that Hagan has proven he was only a practice warrior. Turner hasn't yet so allow us to be excited!

 

Exactly. But excited is one thing. Concluding that he is "the real deal" is quite another. I'd place myself in the cautiously optimistic camp at the moment. I've seen too many training camp wonders fizzle, particularly at the WR position, to start grinning ear to ear yet.

 

How about Pat "the cat" Turner?

 

pat, cat...turner.
no.
haha
first I thought of white, then i thought of michael turner, and only then i thought if patrick turner.
I think pat white is 'pat", while Turner will be "Patrick' easier for us, fans

 

Patrick Turner beat Vontae Davis today. 40 yard Touchdown pass.
I like what I'm hearing about Patrick Turner. But I'm staying cautiously optimistic, like Frayser. Let's see what he does on Gameday.

 

Believe it. Turner might win that second starting wideout spot.

 

one of the kids biggest strength is his abilty to shield, crouch and play in traffic. while still keeping focus..i wrote about his strengths when we drafted him, didnt understand the negative analysis for the value he presented in the 3rd...Watched him at USC. has deceptive speed as well.

 

His speed is fine Dj, in fact I consider him sneaky fast, but until he is lit up by a professional, I'll have some doubts about him.

Big guys just draw hitters, they tend to go for knock out blows.

Recall Anquan having his face broken against the Jets last season?

 

its not that they draw hitters, bigger WRs just do a lot more work in traffic where hitters are.

theres absolutely nothing wrong with being exciting by what Turner is doing right now, proclaiming him the next fitzgerald is another thing though

 

I don't think that means much, to be honest. Yesterday, it was said that Vontae Davis is still learning how to play in this defense and he doesn't always know where to go so he's working off instincts and just playing the ball. That gets you beat quite a bit, especially Davis because I remember him doing the same thing in college and blowing coverage. Not to mention Turner has a good four, five inches on him.

 

Agree with that, I see his upside more as a A boldin or P Burress, a big Wr who runs faster than they are timed and can make plays in traffic.

He is an exciting prospect, but guys like him are not hard to find, it's th guys who can have the wheels knocked off and still come back out for the next play that are hard to find.

Well, as for "where the hitters are"...tall wr's just prevent a better target for the Safety to light up, stretch out for a catch and that is 6'5 worth of sweet spot to wax.

It takes some special guys to do that job Nappy, stretch out for a ball, no the Db is going to hit you from a full sprint, and still hang onto the ball.

 

I feel like with some of these bigger guys the difference is that wearing pads doesn't slow them up the way it does other guys.

 

agreed. but most of the time the smaller guys arent working where they can get lit up by the safeties, so sometimes the size of the target is irrelevant. but others your 100% correct.

 

how bout

patrick "the burner" turner

yes i know there's the whole michael turner thing but.. . so what?

 

I think it is their strides and where they are on the field, a tall guy can catch the ball and their 4 or 5 strides just cover more yardage on the field.

 

I agree with this, but also with what Padre said as well. Big guys do work the middle more because they can take those hits, but when smaller guys do work the middle they tend not to draw those large hits. I have an explanation for this.

When you throw to a big WR you often have a bigger window of error. Those big guys are extending high up more often exposing themselves. When you see a small guy over the middle its usually a short pass or a slant where they arent exposed as much.

 

He's not going to jack up Polumalu. I was exaggerating but Turner is a huge guy who can take the blows.

He's no Derek Hagan. I never saw Hagan in college but I saw Sanchez target Turner on 3rd down conversions. Turner can get separation unlike Hagan when he played for us. Hagan never used his body well and Turner's hands are far superior than Hagan's. Hagan is a very poor route runner. Any comparison to Hagan would be insulting to him. Turner will quickly prove a lot of doubters wrong about being a late round prospect before the draft. Turner is legit...a Keyshawn Johnson type that Parcells likes.

 

I was always really impressed with Hagan's route running and his ability to get open.

I was very unimpressed with his ability to catch the ball.

 

It was never good enough to get seperation especially when he tried to cut to the middle of the field.

 

I saw him do that a few times in preseason games.

His route running is the reason he is still in the NFL.

If I am to believe everything written about him, he isn't athletic, he can't run routes, and he can't catch. Seems like the only reason he is in the NFL is because he is 6'2".

 

Good point. We all have to see if he can take a few hits. I think he will do fine and prove to everyone who doubted him when he was drafted. He may not be a Boldin or Fitzgerald. In fact, I don't want him to be them. I want him to make a name out of himself and do things that no one has seen. I have no doubt he will turn out to be one of the league's finest players.

 

Well in any case Hagan is long gone and Turner is the future here.

 

My work colleague is a HUGE USC fan...

He goes to every game as a season ticket holder, going back a couple of generations in his family. He had nothing but great things to say about him when I told him that the Phin's drafted him. He is a big guy with solid hands who runs good routes. Maybe not this year, as I don't like high expectations for a rookie, but I suspect he is going to be big for us in the future