According to Mando todays game is more about big plays than controlling the football . http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/columnists/armando-salguero/story/1166446.html If you look at the best NFL teams last year they did not have the best running games . Its the big playmakers like Troy Polamalu, Ed Reed Terrell Suggs that make the difference . Last year the only Dolphin that could be considered a big playmaker was Joey Porter .That has to change .Who will be big playmakers this year ?
I think this year's playmakers is going to be Ronnie Brown and Ted Ginn on offense and Joey Porter and Vonate Davis on defense. Vonate is my pick for Defensive Rookie of the Year.
I don't agree with this,I can remember when we had big plays and no running game and could not win consistintly in big game s due not being able to run late in games-while being able to score quickly is important you also need to be able to run out the clock and run in bad weather.
That's a bold prediciton considering there's no guarantee Davis will even start. In fact depending on who you believe, Sean Smith may have the edge over Davis right now.
you could also argue that the reason the ARI did not win the SB, was that all they had was a 'strike' based offense .... (that and terrible 1st half play calling) what you need is a very good defense, teamed with a solid offense that has a 'strike' capabillity -- thankfully, this is exactly where we are headed ...
"We don't make any bones about saying I don't think our 53 players are the best 53 players of every team in the league," Sparano said. "Dan Henning does a tremendous job utilizing his personnel." from todays SunSentinal that statement is football reality
I dont think its so much that we lack playmakers i think its that we lack consistency amongst our group of playmakers. Here are people i think can be big play makers for us this season: Offense: R Brown, R Williams, T Ginn, D Bess, P Cobbs, P White (P Turner Red zone) Deffense: J Porter, J Taylor, Y Bell, and P Merling seems to have a knack for having some big plays. Honestly i think this is a sufficient amount of playmakers with the exception of maybe another DB. We do however have many players(G Wilson, W Allen, V Davis and S Smith) that could step into that extra playmaking role.
I disagree with the article overall suggestion. I think maybe a team gets opportunities because they control the football. Furthermore, the Steelers and AZ aside some of the teams in the playoffs did in fact have great running games. NYG 12-4 #1 rush rank ATL 11-5 #2 rush rank Balt 11-5 #4 rush rank (AFC game) Tenn 13-3 #7 rush rank http://www.nfl.com/stats/categoryst...sonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=true&Submit=Go IMO the fair thing to say is that there's more than one way to skin a cat.
What makes you think this? Do you have a solid reason or are you just saying this because he is the Dolphins first round pick?
Arizona got hot at the right time so I throw that out right there. Its not like they set the league on fire with that poor rushing attack, they still BARELY made the playoffs. Any offense like New England had the year before is going to make it, they werent your average big play offense. I throw that out too. You still have to be able to run and play defense in the NFL to win games.
This is what I posted in the other thread asking the same question: I think we have many potential big play makers. On defense, I see Porter, Taylor, Wake, Bell, Wilson and Smith. On offense, I see Brown, Ginn, Bess, Cobbs and White. These are the guys who I think could make most of the big plays. I think guys like CP, Camarillo, Will Allen and Roth along with many others are expected to provide good consistent play. But the guys above are the ones I look to to provide the electric plays. Particularly on offense I think it's going to be on the coaches and CP to make sure we take advantages of those guy's skills. And regarding Vontae Davis, I'd be surprised if he starts much less become defensive rookie of the year. I think he'll be our nickel cb. I think he'll have some highlight plays against the run, but I don't think he's disciplined enough to be trusted with deep responsibility in quarters. Maybe in a year or two if he really becomes committed to learning the position.
I totally disagree about Ginn he has not been a play maker nor has he proven to be anything exciting all. I believe Camerillo and Bess with Ronnie Brown will be play makers and I will be excited to see how they progress this year.
'Nando is sort of missing the point of the Sparano Phins, we win via discipline and smart football, we set the record for fewest turnovers in a season, and for most of the season we were in the top 3 of least penalized teams. As usual, 'Nando should stick with what he sees and not speculation.
Arizona making it to the SB had as much, if not more to do with a very weak division in a very weak conference, than Fitz & Boldin, etc. Swap us for them in that division, we make it to the SB too, and they'd be in 2 or 3 in the East.
I disagree. The Arizona Cardinals had to go through a tough road to get to the superbowl. They had to beat the Carolina Panthers, then the Philadelphia Eagles. Two very, very tough teams. I doubt the Dolphins would have made the superbowl if we were in the NFC.
Yes and no We don't have the type of playmakers that some of the better teams in the NFL have, we just don't. I know alot of people are high on some of our players, but they just don't match up well against teams like NE, Arizona, etc with Ronnie being one of the few exceptions. With that said, we do have players that can make a difference throughout a game, our problem is that we A) don't run an offense that takes big play chances, and B) even if we did we don't have a QB that can take advantage of players like Ginn and our OL hasn't been dominant against the run in some time. I know that some folks will disagree with that, but the wildcat made our running game look a whole heck of alot better than it did during the first two weeks of the season, even then we struggled at times. Some folks will say "well there you go, the wildcat is our big play maker", but I don't see it being as effective this year as it was last season. We caught teams by surprise early on, as the year progressed teams learned how to stop it, and with a full year of planning I'm sure that they'll be ready for it and any wrinkle that we may add. On defense, other than Joey Porter, we really didn't generate much of a passrush, while our pass D was rather good at getting takeaways, I was actually surprised at how good they were last year. This year our secondary went through a hefty makeover, so we'll have to wait and see exactly what we have. I have high hopes for Smith and Davis and I'm interested to see what Clemons can contribute, but we have to remember that they are still rookies and may very well struggle to adapt to the speed of the NFL. Now you don't necessarily need players who make big plays every single time they touch the ball (although it does help out alot), all you need to do is play smart football. That means that you limit your turnovers and create them on defense, which Miami did a great job of last year. Whether we can duplicate those type of numbers this season remains to be seen. So to answer the question, no we don't have the type of playmakers that other teams possess and the ones we do have are underutilized. That doesn't mean that we can't be successful, but it does make it harder to play with the more talented teams in the NFL.
Those numbers are skewed though because the more a team wins the more times they'll run the ball. Winning leads to running. Not the other way around. That's why using yards per rush is a better way to figure out which rushing attack was best.
I think we would have had a much better shot at beating either of those teams because we match up better. I knew going into that Baltimore game that we just matched up EXTREMELY poorly with them, they were the only team I feared in the post season matchup wise.
Can't disagree with that. I did not want to be pessimistic, but I expected a loss the day before our playoff game.
No doubt about it, I mean, I was at that AZ-Miami game, and despite the final score, we sure kicked their asses all over the field.
I agree that it's a three legged stool: Big plays, ball control and defense all have to combine. But the difference between playmakers and a lack of them is execution, and that's a team thing. The most frustrating thing for opposing fans about watching the great Dolphins teams of the 70s was thay they could execute just about any play they tried. That's an exaggeration, of course, but no less true because of it. Kiick. Csonka. Morris. Csonka. Mandich. Csonka. Touchdown Warfield. Very hard to deal with consistent execution. It makes playmakers.
Don't play FF, so this doesn't bother me. I care if the TEAM plays as a whole, together, and wins games, and they will. We have enough talent now to win as a team. It seems to me on D we have JP, JT, Cam Wake, Y. Bell, G. Wilson, P. Merling, Langford, and Matt Roth will all be stellar and together should stop the 3rd down failures of a year ago. ????: ThePHINS.com - Miami Dolphins Forums http://forums.thephins.com/showthread.php?p=785694 On Offense Penny may not be a "playmaker" but he sure does make a lot of good plays, especially when we need them. Ginn, Bess and Ronnie Brown are all potential "playmakers" and our TE's don't exactly suck. We have enough guys that "make plays" when needed, to have a solid O this season. Parcells brand of football is pound them with the run, then strike with the pass. If our OL holds up and we can play the smash mouth brand of running game I expect, we'll score enough to get ahead in games, with our solid D, then run out the clock in the 4th qtr., when opposing D's are tired and worn down. Heck, Penny did that last season with the short passing game on many 4th qtr drives, add a running game to the standard offensive sets, and we go back to the playoffs, and deeper once we get there! My apologies to all you FF players.
The Arizona Cardinals might have been about producing big plays, but I would think the Steelers were better at controlling the football.
this is a team sport the team is greater than the sum of its parts coaching, coaching, coaching & coaching 2nd effort, competition, conditioning & attitude this is a team sport
JT may not get featured but I expect him to be a playmaker and get back to his level before he got traded. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbm52VMZY8k"]YouTube - Jason Taylor Tribute[/ame]
I dont think we are lacking playmakers we I feel we saw alot of new play makers last year on this team. The wildcat offense is just going to unlease more playmakers this year. Ronnie Brown CAR 214 YDS 916 AVG 4.3 TDS 10 Ricky Williams Rush Yds 659 Yds/Game 41.2 TD 4 Patrick Cobbs CAR 12 YDS 88 AVG 7.3 TDS 1 ( Patrick cobbs did alot more then his stats show.) Davone Bess Rec Yds 554 Yds/Game 34.6 TD 1 ( These are just quick stats that I pulled from yahoo. He did a lot more for this team then his stats show. Now with this being his second year in the NFL I have a feeling Davone Bess is really going to be a big part of our offense.) Ted Ginn Jr. (when he was not running out of bounds) Rec Yds 790 Yds/Game 49.4 TD 2 ( this is going to be a break or make year for Ted Ginn Jr. and I feel he is going to have a great year. I am not talking 13 tds 1,000 yards. But maybe 800 yards and 8 tds. That would be great.) Greg Camarillo Rec Yds 613 Yds/Game 55.7 TD 2 ( I dont know what week Greg Camarillo got hurt but he was Chad Penningtons favorit target and I feel like he is going to be a go to guy this year as well.)
To me it just came down to the fact their interior defensive line dominates, and our interior offensive line was injured and a weak spot. I felt like our only real chance to was make Flacco make mistakes and we just didnt.
