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What if, Penny is injured, and White ran the WC well?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by padre31, May 17, 2009.

Pennington goes down, White is successful as a WC Qb, who replaces Pennignton?

  1. Chad H. he knows the offense and is the future

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  2. Pat W. we could put the next Vick on the field for us

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  3. Don't know/no opinion

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  1. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    A certain scenario is running through the old rusty trap.

    What do my fellow PhinFans think would happen if say in week 9, Chad Pennington is injured, but Pat White has scored 8 Td's throwing or running in the previous 7 games?

    Chad Henne is our back up, but hasn't played, what if White plays in the WildCat and is massively successful?

    Do we start Henne and leave White in the WildCat as the Qb?
     
  2. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    Why would we promote him from WC QB to fulltime QB? The two are worlds apart. Henne would be the starter, no doubt about it.
     
  3. anlgp

    anlgp ↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A

    It is Henne's job to lose as of this moment.
     
  4. RickyNeverInhaled

    RickyNeverInhaled Well-Known Member

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    i voted to make Pat White the starting QB if Pennington goes down. The reason i voted that way is b/c i believe Pat White will beat Henne out of the #2 QB job. If Henne is indeed the better QB and earns the #2 QB job then he should be the starting QB if Pennington goes down, no matter how good Pat White is with the wild cat.
     
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  5. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Id say its Henne... he's got a year of this offense under his belt, I don't think theres any questions he ends up the starter if that happens.
     
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  6. Coral Reefer

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    First, Why would anybody WANT the "next Vick"?

    Second, People are way too enamoured by the WildCat.
    It succeeded in ONE game and because of that one game people think it's going to become a full time offense and take over the NFL.
    It wont.
     
  7. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Success on the field, "if" Pat White produces TD's and doesn't turn the ball over compared to a guy who played a couple of series in a blowout last season.
     
  8. phineas64

    phineas64 Season Ticket Holder

    I agree with whoever Tony Sparano says it will be! :up:
     
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  9. Lt Dan

    Lt Dan Season Ticket Holder

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    Henne. The Wildcat is not the offense
     
  10. RickyNeverInhaled

    RickyNeverInhaled Well-Known Member

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    it succeeded in a lot more games than just one. just look at our average yards per carry on a normal run, compared to our average yards per carry on a wild cat run.

    I believe the wildcat is here to stay. The ravens were successful in stopping it b/c they focused on the run since we didn't have a real wild cat passing threat. hopefully Pat White will change that.
     
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  11. RBrown23

    RBrown23 Thanks GISH

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    Henne knows the system and Whites got some time to learn the system. If Pennington goes down, it will be Henne. He has been in a game situation before, against the super bowl Cardinals and did very well. So I will be very confident in this offense with Henne running it.
     
  12. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    It is a part of the offense and White will be on the field more then Henne because of it.

    That to me would give White an edge, especially if Henne struggles as a Qb and we manage to stay in playoff contention.
     
  13. Disnardo

    Disnardo Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I voted...No Opinion...

    Since I have not seen much of Henne or any of White in the NFL to make a decision...

    A QB has to show me smarts and not just fit the prototypical mold...
     
  14. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    are you saying we should run the wildcat fulltime if Pennington gets hurt?
     
  15. RickyNeverInhaled

    RickyNeverInhaled Well-Known Member

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    i think he's just saying that Pat White will have more games and/or drives under his belt than henne's one drive he played in last year. By the way that drive was a TD drive! the jury is out, may the best man win!
     
  16. PENNSYLVANIADOLPHAN

    PENNSYLVANIADOLPHAN Well-Known Member

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    I voted for Pat White. If he is having success, leave him in. Let him play till he forces us to take him out.
     
  17. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    I would hope Pat White can throw it to wide recievers instead of at their feet.
     
  18. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    yeah, but henne has been running the offense in practice for a year now. i dont see why wildcat success with White would make him a better traditional QB for us than Henne. If Chad got hurt last year, should Ronnie have taken over as the fulltime QB?
     
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  19. gafinfan

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    Pat White - Now just why would I say that? If White becomes good enough to be on the field at all then it proves to me that they think he can play. Do you really think, if Penny is in charge as he was last year, that Pat won't be picking up the base offense? Come on, this is a very smart kid, and who really knows his ceiling? If he was drafted so high to only play for 5 - 10 plays a game do any of you here think it was a value pick?

    This is only MO but the WC really comes into its own when you don't have to change players and then White really comes into his own. You combine the WC and the no huddle and the D won't have a chance to ever catch its breath.

    Now all of this is dependent upon White beating out Henne, or at the very least the two of them being at the same level at the start of the regular season. I'm not saying White will work out but if he does look out Chad Henne needs to be perfect. And for those who say Henne has a year under his belt, while true at this point, Pat White will be getting real game playing time and I'll take that over bench warming any time and twice on Sunday!!:wink2:

    I think this is going to be one heck of a preseason. May the best man win.:up:
     
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  20. baboo72

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    I voted for Chad H. I see Pat White being more of a specialist role, eventiually taking on kind of a "slash" role rather than getting the job full time - IMO
     
  21. djphinfan

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    my middle name is 'enamoured' right now.

    enamoured especially to see if Pat white can become an overall better football player then Vick.
     
  22. padre31

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    No, what I am saying is that success in the WC might trump being the "heir apparent".
     
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  23. cnc66

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    Good morning Andrew :up:

    Maybe next year.. but not this one. No way that white learns how to operate the whole playbook this year.. so unless something odd happens, Henne would be the finisher this year if Chadly went down
     
  24. padre31

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    Mornin' Marty.:up:

    We will see, I'd guess White and Henne will see the bulk of the preseason game snaps, it will be interesting to see who does what during them, I suspect White will surprise people.
     
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  25. cnc66

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    I am hoping... :up:
     
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  26. GridIronKing34

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    That's a very extreme point of view, not everyone thinks that the Wildcat is a full time offense.

    Why wouldn't anyone want the next Vick? Minus the off the field issues, he was a damn good QB. Maybe not your traditional pocker passer QB, but still a good QB. He won ball games and he was tough to gameplan against.

    The media is enamored by the Wildcat thus making casual fans by the Wildcat. If I talk to any casual fan here about the Dolphins they just "wildcat!!" like some idiot. They think we run it 50 times per game, when we really only run it about 5-6 times per game.

    If Pennington is injured and White was outplaying Henne, I want him in there. If Henne is outplaying White, then I want Henne in there. It's that simple.
     
  27. gunn34

    gunn34 I miss Don & Dan

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    May the best man win.
     
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  28. PHINANALYST

    PHINANALYST Well-Known Member

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    white did well at WV, especially last year with nothing to go around him ... however, i believe he will be best utilized in the WP - IOT take advantage of his versatility.

    we do know that the FO is not adverse to a 'White' with his tool set as a starting QB, as all you have to do is go back to the Dallas days ...

    i do believe that they would leave it a 2 system offense led by 2 different QBs, BUT -- i can see the value of having White back there on every snap ... so that the WP becomes a threat on every down, and posing problems for the defense.
     
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  29. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    you go with what works
    conversation & opinions are meaningless when the rubber meets the road
    they will compete

    I think Pat White was the best pick of the draft
    only game-time will tell :yes:the QB Stable is one of the best in the NFL
     
  30. FinsAreLife

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    I mean this is all speculation, who knows, either one could go out there and light it up at the regular QB spot. But in my brain, i go with Henne.
     
  31. Colorado Dolfan

    Colorado Dolfan ...dirty drownin' man?

    Success in the Wildcat != Success in a standard offense.

    I believe Henne steps in to fill Penny's boots...
     
  32. DOLFANMIKE

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    Henne backs up Penny
    White runs the Wildcat
     
  33. alen1

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    You would be comfortable with Michael Vick as your Quarterback of the team? We are talking about a guy who has a nearly identical completion percentage and career QB rating as Joey Harrington, that same Joey Harrington that all of us have bagged on over his entire career and when he was with Miami. As for Vick winning games, Vick had three seasons with a winning percentage of over .500 in six seasons and most of that was because of his running style, which I think is containable with an seven man front. His passing game doesn't worry me.
     
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  34. padre31

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    Vick was never the passer White was in college, and if one recalls, Vick did take the Falcons to the NFC Title game, the goal is winning not putting up stats.
     
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  35. alen1

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    IMO, Vick never was a passer. I don't mean to be rude in that first sentence but that's just my honest opinion. And correct he did, however, when that Eagles defense stacked the box, he was done. They stopped him from running and asked him to complete passes, which he failed to do.
     
  36. padre31

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    True, but he still won games, and simply because Vick threw sliders into the dirt does not mean Pat White will, all Vick did was show a mobile Qb who is a mediocre passer can win consistently in the NFL.
     
  37. alen1

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    Not necessarily IMO. How many QB's who have his playing style have won consistently? The latest QB to come out who was mobile and a mediocre passer at best was Vince Young and he's currently riding the pine behind Kerry Collins.
     
  38. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    also the Eagles had a very good defense.

    Pointing out one game does not make a career
     
  39. padre31

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    Apples to Apples Alen, V Young is dumb as a stump, 11 on the wonderlic, immature, no real track record at Qb at Texas.

    White was a fine Qb for years at WVa, 4 bowls, 4 wins, career completion % over 63%, 2 Td's to one Int ration for his career.

    Young was more or less a two season starter and threw for 44td's and 37 int's in those two seasons.
     
  40. alen1

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    Never said it did.

    What I did say was that when his run game is contained, it is easier to slow him down because of his lack of success in the passing game, which I think is pretty true when you look at his career in Atlanta.
     

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