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SNAP ANALYSIS-New swine flu likely widespread, experts say

Discussion in 'Science & Technology' started by Celtkin, Apr 25, 2009.

  1. Celtkin

    Celtkin <B>Webmaster</b> Luxury Box

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    http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N25472826.htm

    This is scary stuff, my friends. We are long overdue for a pandemic.
     
  2. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    There were a bunch right here in San Diego. Like 4 or something. None of them fatal, but I'm staying away from Hog.
     
  3. cnc66

    cnc66 wiley veteran, bad spelur Luxury Box

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    been 90+- years .. long overdue ...scares me a lot.
     
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  4. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    http://www.cdc.gov/swineflu/investigation.htm

     
  5. Celtkin

    Celtkin <B>Webmaster</b> Luxury Box

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    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aEsNownABJ6Q&refer=worldwide

    I can see a time in the near future where you will see Americans wearing protective face masks to prevent transmission.

    My advice to all of you is to wash your hands often and avoid touching your face.
     
  6. Celtkin

    Celtkin <B>Webmaster</b> Luxury Box

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    This virus has evolved (I know --- evolution doesn't exist but let's pretend for a moment) to propagate in at least two species. Since viruses are cell-specific -- they have to replicate in a specific type of cell and usually gain entry through highly specific cell receptors, the fact that his virus can replicate and produce symptoms in porcine and in human (and probably other primates) makes this a very dangerous threat to humans and livestock.

    I will do some digging to see if I can find how this virus gains entry to the cell and how it replicates once inside.
     
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  7. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Dude dies the very next day? Conspiracy theories that they sent a suicidal biological weapon to get at Obama?
    That is insane though.
    How is this contracted. I think I'm safe with bacon but medium pork is out of the question now
     
  8. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Are you implying they spontaneously appeared, twice? :lol:

    Please do your digging and tell us what not to eat!
     
  9. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    I believe it is found primarily in pigs, but like the bird flu it evolved to be able to spread from human to human?
     
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  10. Celtkin

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    Viruses are obligately intercellular so no, bacon would not be a problem. The virus would be shed by sneezing, coughing or by manual transmission. The virus has to be transmitted to the mucosa -- either through the nose or lungs. You could eat a live pig and you'd be ok unless you swapped snot with an infected one.
     
  11. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Manual transmission. There goes my Saturday night!!!!! :eek:
     
  12. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    I think I just heard a collective scream out of alabama :pointlol:
     
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  13. jdang307

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  14. Vengeful Odin

    Vengeful Odin Norse Mod

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    This is scary stuff. We actually have two of our call centers that may be affected by this, one of them is actually where I work out of.

    El Paso, Texas, hasn't seen any issues, but neighboring Juarez has already started closing schools, despite the fact that there aren't any related cases.

    My hometown, Manhattan, Kansas, also appears to be fine, but Dickinson county (which is the county right next to mine) has reported 2 cases thus far. Those folks are currently voluntarily quarantined, but it's still frightening to think that this is right next door to me.

    Since it's viral in nature, there's no real good way to prevent it, outside of trying to avoid contact with folks already affected and trying to make sure you're taking the right precautions.

    This is very serious, my company is already taking precautions expecting this to affect both of the aforementioned centers.
     
  15. Vengeful Odin

    Vengeful Odin Norse Mod

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    Celt, nothing official on how it's transmitted, though it's thought to be airborne in nature.

    http://www.cdc.gov/swineflu/swineflu_you.htm

    Thus far there's two drugs which look to be promising, oseltamivir and zanamivir. They act as transition-state analogue inhibitors. You're the biologist, but I'm guessing that means that it doesn't "cure" the virus, but keeps it from spreading to other cells. (Details on those drugs from my same link above.)
     
  16. opfinistic

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    And I am currently re-reading Stephen King's 'The Stand'. :pity:

    This is scary.
     
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  17. cnc66

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    excellent book.. we go out with a wimper
     
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  18. opfinistic

    opfinistic Braaaaains!

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    My all time favorite cautionary tale.
     
  19. opfinistic

    opfinistic Braaaaains!

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    Palm Beach County braces for arrival of deadly flu

    I wouldn't be shocked if it was already here. We have a lot of people traveling to and from Mexico in South Florida.

    http://www.palmbeachpost.com/localnews/content/local_news/epaper/2009/04/27/0427pbflu.html
     
  20. azfinfanmang

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    Interesting, as we have millions in North Texas that used to live in Mexico :shifty:

    Anywho, at least it seems they have found a few things that work against it.

    I have been wondering for a few days now why the only deaths seem to be in Mexico?
     
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  21. opfinistic

    opfinistic Braaaaains!

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    Did you say anywho?
     
  22. Dannyg28

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    from what ive read about the flu, the symptoms are nearly identical to a normal flu, and the way to treat it is the same, bed rest and fluids. all the casses of death so far are in Mexico and the number of cases in the US are very small, with the number of cases worldwide being in the low hundreds . While i understand being cautious, i believe the story has been a bit overblown from everything ive been able to gather
     
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  23. Pagan

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    Maybe, maybe not.

    Source.

    And you want a GREAT way to spread this virus across the globe quickly?

    He went to Disneyworld? Yikes.

    And I'll be there in two weeks...

    Strap in, kids.
     
  24. Stitches

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    To be fair Pagan, given where you've been and what you've seen/done, perhaps Disney should be the one saying "yikes." :tongue2:
     
  25. unluckyluciano

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    http://www.who.int/csr/don/2009_04_28/en/index.html
     
  26. alen1

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    So, I'm thinking to not go to school tomorrow? I've got a cold right now but its from being sweaty on Sunday from playing football and then wearing a wet T-shirt and sitting by a fan with it on. I'm such a dumbass.
     
  27. unluckyluciano

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    via the cdc

    http://www.cdc.gov/swineflu/
     
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  28. Miamian

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    This just got me thinking. I really hate it when people cough without covering their mouths. Beyond the fact that it's rude and inconsiderate, it's also a health hazard as we can see. If I see a PDF with an alert, I'm going to print it, make about 100 copies and have them ready to give out.
     
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  29. FinSane

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    were all gonna die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  30. opfinistic

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    I should have never told my wife about this. :pity: She's now convinced that she's going to get the swine flu. I understand the need to be cautious, but she's a bit paranoid. If I come home and she's wearing a mask (not my Chewbacca one) I'm going to cry.
     
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  31. CrunchTime

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    They have installed those thermal detectors at many airports.Unfortunately it wont detect the carriers ,those who have the flu but dont have the symptons.:sad:
     
  32. rafael

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    Is this worse than a regular flu? Near as I can tell the symptoms are the same, the treatment is the same, the methods of contamination are the same. It seems just as contagious as a regular flu. People die from the regular flu as well. Why is this one causing so much fear?
     
  33. Celtkin

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    It seems to be killing at a much higher rate than most seasonal flu strains. Children are especially vulnerable because this strain is better than the average strain at kicking off a cytokine storm.

    In older patients, the cause of death seems to be secondary pneumonia.
     
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    which is what would get me :sad:

    Hi Malcolm!
     
  35. Celtkin

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    Me too Marty :( At least I will have one GREAT friend to spend time with.

    Howdy, brother.
     
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  36. azfinfanmang

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    For anybody interested, this is an article I was just reading from Dr Manny Alvarez of.... I know Fox News.

    Pretty good article, and it answers the question I have been asking the entire time. Why are people in Mexico dying, and none in the US (remember the one Infant boy who died in Houston was actually A Mexican National that had only been in the States a short time).

    I have NEVER believed in the Flu shot...and I might have to double back on that.... :pity:

    This is the same question posed by Dr Alvarez to Dr Peter Gross who Alvarez declares as an Expert in the Flu world.



    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,518514,00.html
     
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  37. Stitches

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    There was a car with Mexico plates in front of me on my way to dinner. we almost called the CDC! :lol:
     
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  38. azfinfanmang

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    To do that around here.... It would be a non-stop speed dial :pity:
     
  39. anlgp

    anlgp ↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A

    :omg: we're all gonna die

    opie put the stand down!
     
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  40. dolphindebby

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    I posted in another forum about how worried I am about my daughter. She travels all over the country for AFLAC and this really worries me.
    And my grandgirls being in school etc.
    There's only been one case at our hospital, so far, and the woman had been traveling and been to Cancun etc.
    Stuff like this usually doesn't bother me, but I can't help it this time.
    We're teaching the girls about hand washing etc. My son being a firefighter/paramedic refuses to let us panic and to take precautions.
    My daughter has to go somewhere close to Mexico next week and she doesn't like it. I pray they cancel the trip.
    I pray all of you stay well and healthy.
     

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