You mocking me?!

Damn, I was gonna say draft Ayers. But Kruger is good, too. With the 56 pick I say draft Dorrel Scott.

 

Got you.

Just to clarfiy, the reason I mentioned him so early is because if we wait till the 3rd round to pick him, I guarantee you the Broncos snatch him up before us. They are in dire need of a Nose Tackle, and he would be a perfect fit there.

Just let us know who's available, and we'll help you out.

 

This is why the Dolphins should not pass on Darius Butler or Sean Smith if either of them are still on the board at #25. Nicks is great but if you didn't pick him then the Giants probably would have picked Nicks at #29. Then the Dolphins may have had a shot at Britt in the second round. Plus Robiskie, Iglesias, Williams, and Murphy are all still on the board.

FWIW I don't think Kruger is a better fit at OLB in a 3-4 defense. Ayers is faster and he played a little LB at Tennessee.

 

If this is the NFL, Dorell Scott will be long gone by our 3rd. If you want him, take him 2b.

Personally, I feel we need an intelligent, physical playmaker over the middle who plays with passion and can take it to the next level. IE: James Casey....before NE takes him and we watch him dismantle us for the next 6 years. LOL.

 

Yes, Casey at TE.....while being a Tebow like QB to man the Wildcat. He adds a new dimension to the offense and should impact from day one. The threat of Casey running the deep middle opens a lot of doors for our WRs everywhere else. LBs and Safeties have to respect him so he keeps a defense honest....Ronnie and the ground game will appreciate that. He will also be Henne's best friend for years, and he's a coaches dream! Total BP guy! IMO, Casey is a necessity pick in this draft.

 

You have to love high motor guys. However the talent has to be there too. For example Matt Roth has a high motor. One of the highest actually. If his talent matched his motor we wouldn't even be talking about drafting an OLB this year. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying Paul Kruger isn't talented. He just isn't as talented as Ayers.

Last night on PATH TO THE DRAFT Mike Mayock said we will look back on this draft in three years and Robert Ayers will be considered the best defensive player period. That's extremely high praise from one of the top draft gurus out there. I'm not faulting your logic but if Ayers is still on the board at #44 there's no way the Dolphins pick Kruger over Ayers.

 

I actually think there could be a pretty good chance they do take Kruger over Ayers. Kruger's spent time in a 3-4 already as a weak side linebacker and wouldn't have to make the transition. He's not known to have any character issues, where Ayers was immature in the early part of his college career and lacked work ethic, and he doesn't set the edge great unless its a tight end blocking him. Paul Kruger sets the edge very well and he's quick off the edge as well.

 

Honestly...I doubt you'll see much impact from a rookie corner at 2b this year, and I'd like to see how our secondary does in the their new "quarters" coverage before I use 2b on one. Just my personal opinion. Where as Dorell Scott should make an impact pretty early, and I'd hate to have to count on Solaia to get the job done. Scott can play DE vs the run and shift to nose against the pass b/c of his quickness for his size. He's extrememely versatile. Very underrated b/c of a light knee sprain he played with much of the year. I've watched him every game he's played, and this is the type of "worker bee" DLineman we want. His numbers don't always show up in the stats column, but he impacts the game so others around him can consistently make plays.

The other option is take Casey now... b/c he won't be there in 3 in the NFL draft... Buffalo or NE are probably prime to take him before our 3rd pick.... and then take monsterous Sammie Lee Hill in the 4th or 5th for nose. Casey is such a weapon that I'd hate to see us miss him. If you drafted Nicks first, then you're 1 player away from giving us a dominant offense... and he's James Casey. In that regard I would make it a priority to complete what you started by attempting to make us an offensive firepower. Forget Jared Cook and Cornelius.... Travis Beckum would suffice if you miss Casey, but we NEED a physical, smart WR type TE threat over the middle to ease the burden of our diminutive receivers.

MrClean is a Ducks fan and is very high on Byrd... so you could go Byrd 2b, hope for Casey 3, and then Sammie Lee Hill in 4 or 5.

 

I second that. I feel bad for Ayers if a team drafts him as a 3-4. Kid's one of the most complete 4-3 DE's in the draft, and you'd be taking him out of his game to play hybrid IMO. Alen's right.... Kruger's more suited to play Hybrid, and that's what counts.

That said.... I'd still pass on Kruger and take a situational passer like Victor Butler in the 6th to spell Roth on passing downs, that way you max out the SOLB position without having to use a high pick to do so. Plus Butler's a gamer.... Look at his Bowl game vs Pitt. IMO

 

Ayer's got a lot of questions to answer IMO.

I haven't seen Butler yet as I haven't gotten to the tape but whats key is that Roth is a free agent after this year. You want a guy who can set the edge as well as him and be a better pass rusher. You don't want to take a step back if you let him go and if you go with Kruger or Smith, you won't take a step back.

 

Hey it's just pretend and you're the GM in this fantasy so pick whomever you like it is all good. I like Ayers in that spot because while he will have some impact this year it would mostly be about development with him.

Besides I'll just sit back and bash you like I would if you were Wanny.

 

Is this still going on? I see the updates have dried up since our pick yesterday.

 

This is true... it all comes down to if Roth wants to stay here, and if we want to keep him.
Victor Butler, Oregon State.
Independence Bowl vs Pitt: 11 TKLs, 4 sacks, 5TFL, 1 FF, 1 FR.
Season: 65 TKL, 21.5 TFL, 12 Sacks, 4 FF, 2 FR.

 

Numbers are beautiful in college, lets see how he translates to the NFL.

 

yeah yeah yeah.... LOL. But those were numbers in the PAC 10... and the Bowl game numbers dont lie. He also helped give USC their only loss. Butler shows that he can take it to a next level.

English had 1 tackle in his Bowl Game. LOL.

 

The next level in college.

Are we evaluating these players off of one game? Also, English saw some double teams in that game and was strictly asked to get down hill. I don't know if you watched the game but if you did, you could see the offensive line being shifted laterally toward English and paying more attention to him. Its the little things that stand out.

 

Why did NE take Sintim and Barwin when both of those guys project to SOLBs.

If they took Sintim with the first pick, they should have taken a WOLB with the next pick.

You cant be right. You cant "sign" someone who is under contract with another team.

 

Hardy har har. LOL. Being able to take one's game to the next level is an important criteria for assessing talent, young grasshopper. It doesn't matter if it's in college. What matters is that a player has the capacity/mental strength and will-power to do it in the first place.

I understand English was double teamed... by a lesser opponent... LOL. But does a team like Pitt completely ignore a player like Butler to allow him to act as a one man wrecking crew all game in route to a goose egg?

 

He'll have to play zone and man here.

 

B/C Sintim will probably be a beast in the middle if they don't play him weakside.

 

Damn, Robert Ayers almost fell to us at 56.

 

I would've picked Dorrel Scott, but good pick anyway. I'd be very happy If our draft went this way.

 

I would go crazy if the Saints drafted another running back while Malcolm Jenkins was still on the board.

 

I'll play the hindsight game...I'd probably go CB Darius Butler though Michael Johnson is tempting. Passed on Johnson mostly because Robert Ayers is still available, so he's my choice @ 44. While @ 56 I'd go with WR Juaquin Iglesias.

 

Level of competition questions arise again. Your talking about a team in Pittsburgh that's ran by Dave Wannstedt. If there's one person who can completely screw up something, its Wannstedt.

 

I'm in a first round mock draft, myself, and gonna let ya'll help me.

1 Detriot Lions - Matt Stafford, QB, Georgia
2 St. Louis Rams - Jason Smith, OT, Baylor
3 Kansas City Chiefs - Aaron Curry, LB, Wake Forest
4 Seattle Seahawks - Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia
5 Cleveland Browns - Brian Orakpo, DE, Texas
6 Cincinnati Bengals - Andre Smith, OT, Alabama
7 Oakland Raiders - Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech
8 Jacksonville Jaguars - BJ Raji, DE, Boston College
9 Green Bay Packers - Everrette Brown, DE, FSU
10 San Francisco 49ers - Mark Sanchez, QB, USC
11 Buffalo Bills - Aaron Maybin, DE, Penn State
12 Denver Broncos - Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State
13 Washington Redskins - Michael Oher, OT, Mississippi
14 New Orleans Saints - Brian Cushing, LB, USC
15 Houston Texans - Clay Matthews Linebacker USC
16 San Diego Chargers - Rey Maualuga, Line Backer USC
17 New York Jets - Pat White QB? West Virginia
18 Denver Broncos (from Chicago) - Tyson Jackson DE LSU
19 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -Peria Jerry DT Mississippi
20 Detroit Lions (from Dallas) - Robert Ayers DE Tennessee
21 Philadelphia Eagles -Jeremy Maclin WR Missouri
22 Minnesota Vikings - Eben Britton OT Arizona
23 New England Patriots - Brandon Pettigrew TE Oklahoma State
24 Atlanta Falcons -
25 Miami Dolphins -

First of all, I think the guy was drunk when he made the Jets drafting Pat White pick. I liked it though. Also, the guy picking the Falcons has gone over the max 18 hours we give. I'm giving him until I get off work tonight.

Who do you think I should go for? I guess a top 3 list. Looking for WR/CB/OLB obvioulsy.

 

Darius Butler.

 

Either Clint Sintim or Hakeem Nicks.