You mocking me?!

That is funny. Juice is the term I used to summarize, he said something like explosiveness or play making ability. He said it after the season ended or it was reported he said it.

 

actually I was thinking more along the lines of Eric Green who until someone takes it away from him looks like the starter to me. I just dont see any corners in this draft that blow me away. I know Hindsite is always 20/20 and I am sure a few will impress next year, and chances are they wont all come from the first round. I was also thinking of Cameron Wake who I have a funny feeling is going to pay off for us as a pass rusher, so if one or both of those pickups pans out than our front office has ''to some degree" adressed these issues. Plus there are always diamonds in the rough late in the draft and Parcells seems to be able to find them Nicks just looks like the player who could help this team the most to me with that pick. but we will see. Oh and yes I copied and pasted LOL

 

i won't be complaining if we pick Nicks, i just seriously doubt we will.

 

the Giants won't draft Nicks b/c they will sign Braylon Edwards.

 

They won't do either of the two IMO. They'll take Kenny Britt if they're smart. Eli Manning's issues with accuracy requires a tall target and Britt fits that. Think Terrell Owens without the attitude.

 

i'll expect an apology when Braylon is a Giant! lol

 

You got it, dude. I'm willing to accept I'm wrong.

 

Wow, Nicks is our pick with both English and Barwin on the board ?? Very doubtful IMO...

 

Two things, the will be targets later in the first and early second, perhaps even before #44, second, with the way this regime values WR, I'd see them taking one of the OLBs that the covet and going WR later in the round. JMO, but I think they value that pass rushing LB much greater than the WR positions...WRs take a couple of years to develop, an OLB can usually step right in, even the conversion OLBs..

 

good move and good post!!!!!

 

Wide out is not a need??? On which team???? You can't be serious????

 

I think they value CB more than LB right now. Our LB's are decent, our CB's aren't!

 

And our receivers are not that good!!!! Can't score my brother ...........we can't WIN!!!!!

 

Funny thing to me is there seems to be a split in here. There's the camp that says we should use that pick on a OLB/DE or hybrid (pass rushing specialist), but opinions vary very widely on which one. Barwin, English, Johnson, Matthews, Sintim and so on. Then there's the camp that say "Nicks." Note...I did not say WR, I said Nicks. My point is, we're all in agreement...it's not the position we are demanding be picked, it's the player. That to me is very telling.
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I agree 100% this kid just jumped out at me as the most NFL ready wr when I watched him in college. The only other combo I would have suggested would have been Butler and hope Kenny Britt falls to 44, but he didnt even make it to 30, so I think you made the right choice!

 

I am certainly not a student of the draft, but, i dont think there is ANY WAY we take a WR in the first. Not with the holes we have on D. We ESPECIALLY wont draft another possession receiver in the first. Good thing its just for fun. I wouldnt take Nicks over Britt anyway. Britt is at least as fast, he is taller, and its debatable who has the better hands.

Have fun

 

anyone can catch a Pennington pass. Not everyone can cover Randy Moss, Wes Welker, Terrell Owens, Lee Evans, jerricho cottchery ect... twice a year!

 

which highlights my point..........which I do appreciate None of our receivers are even close to that caliber you just mentioned

 

Sean Smith or Robert Ayers should be the pick. At least one of them is sure to be gone before you pick so the decision should be easy. Is Sintim still on the board? Too high for Moore, Byrd, Allen, Mickens, Brown, and Freeman. Don't use #44 on any of them. I don't know much about Kruger so I can't comment on him.

 

Ayers is tricky. He's got one year of production and underachieved his other years at University of Tennessee. Outstanding quickness off the edge and can get after the QB well but his production or therefore lack of is a question mark.

Its probably not early for Cody Brown. He's got great strength and can get after the QB but his motor is not very good. In my opinion, Marcus Freemen doesn't fit in this scheme. He's soft and is more of a pile jumper than a tackler. He can cover pretty well though.

Value pick for Paul Kruger. He can get the job done. Very athletic, closes well, quick laterally and in a straight line and can cover if asked to.

Personally, I think its between Kruger and Smith there and I think Smith is the better value.

 

No problem. Who else is on the board? Clint Sintim?

I don't think its to high for Byrd, Moore or Brown. Moore is arguably the best cover corner in the draft. Jairus Byrd is a flat out playmaker and every time I watch him, they don't throw his way. Cody Brown is a good rusher, its just a matter of preference. Do you mind a guy who takes plays off or not? I personally loathe it.

 

Ah gotcha, sorry about that. I didn't know it was updated.

I like both a lot. Byrd is very impressive and like I said earlier, I don't see the ball thrown his way much when I watch him yet he makes plays. Sean Smith is my number one cornerback. He's got great size at 6'3 1/2 and jumps well so he matches up better with the bigger wide receivers than others. He's very fluid in his hips and even though his footwork can get choppy from time to time, he's usually got it down pat. He's got good ball skills and his nine (I think that's the number, I'm going blank here) show that. He's also a player in run support, he can turn out of blocks and back into the play to make the stop.

 

Pick Sean Smith.

 

Just to be clear I'm not saying they won't go that high. I just don't believe Ireland or Parcells would take any of them at #44.

Byrd ran 4.68 at his Pro Day. That's not what you'd expect from a 2nd round corner. Ireland and Parcells will work out Brown. They'll interview him and try to get a read on him but in the end they won't draft a guy with his motor. Maybe if he fell to the 4th or 5th round but not in the 2nd. Moore is simply too short. On PATH TO THE DRAFT yesterday Mayock said corners his size generally play the nickel and go in the mid-rounds.

 

Gotcha. I thought you meant his stock in general.

In reference to his forty yard dash, he'd be an excellent fit on a team that uses zone heavily. You could also put him at FS and then let him attack.

Its not Sean Smith's height that catches your attention, its the fact that he's very fluid and is a ballhawk. He's a complete defensive back, in terms of playing the ball well, playing the run and can jump with the best of them.

Kruger's not a developmental player. He does a good job of setting the edge and getting after the Quarterback. He'd play the strong-side spot, where Roth is now and could possibly win the starting job. Probably one of the few linebackers in this class that could take the starting spot away from him, the other being Clint Sintim.

 

Take Ayers and don't look back.

 

Ayers value is too good to pass up at this point as he is considered a 1st round pick. He has all the physical ability you look for in an OLB but played mostly DE in college because that is where his team needed him to play. His pro day numbers were great. His lack of production is a concern having only started one year but he has much greater upside than Kruger or Byrd (both of whom should be there with our next pick). Even so, if you read his former HC's comments about him, you'll realize that maturity was part of that early poor production. A solid interview should erase any doubts about him.