I have to disagree with your opinion on that one. I think run blocking is his stong suit. We have to remember that the RG next to him was nothing special so to average 4.5 yrds a pop is good.
hmm. thanks. i wonder how the calculate this however. wonder if the wild cat effected this at all, because all of our good runs out of that formation came to runs to the right side, and mostly outside the tackles on the right side.
I agree, that's what popped into my head, although Long did play on the right side during the wildcat so I have no idea.
The Bears only have 1 OT on the books for 2009. Not sure how many other teams are in dire need of a solid OT...but Miami needs to lock him up or think about drafting one on DAY 1 of this years draft. We have issues at G already with depth, losing Carey will hurt this line very badly.
I'm sorry if you took my statement too literal. Let me break it down: LT is the most important position on the OL, and he was manning that position. Our offense sputtered last season. It was hard to watch. In any pressure situation, the OL folded like a cheap suit, including Vernon Carey. I'm not saying because he played LT our OL was bad, but he contributed to a bad OL in its most important position.
It's not just about the sacks allowed stat, which way too many people put too much emphasis on. I'd like to see his stats on how many times he let his rusher hurry the passer. Anytime Beck's no. 1 receiver wasn't immediately open, he checked down. Pretty hard to let up a sack when you're QB has 1 read and a checkdown. We had a lot of the same from Cleo Lemon. Then when you look at this year and you see what a real LT is supposed to play like (Jake Long), it's a world of a difference. If Vernon was so good in 2007 at LT, it should've been a breeze to move back to his natural position at RT and succeed. Instead he appeared to regress, IN A CONTRACT YEAR no less. Bottom Line: IMO, Vernon Carey's solid play in 2007 was an illusion because of how bad we were. When you have an average player playing amongst 8-10 below average rookies, backups, and third stringers, you're going to stand out and look good. This year the rest of those guys stepped up their play big time showing Vernon Carey's true colors. As a result of my own opinion I believe he's easily replaceable.
The article is crap. The anonymous "agent" doesn't know anything more about the situation then any of us do.
Excuse me, but Carey's natural position is RG. He is versatile enough to man the RT and LT spots, but his best position is RG...
No need to break it down. I know what happens on the offensive line. Enough to have found that comment slightly funny. It's simple. I surely don't agree with you either. Carey actually played pretty well at LT during that terrible season. BY far, he did not suck. Sometimes you need to look and see who is actually at fault for the breakdowns. Like the TE missing on help assignments, or the Rb failing to chip and more. Carey is better suited to be a RT or maybe even a RG imo but for a player switching back and forth as much as he has, he's done an admirable job.
This brought this into perspective for me. He’s asking for pro-bowl money but hasn’t even sniffed that upper echelon.
I'm starting to go along with the "where are the reports from VC agent that says that he wants this much money" crowd?
There are always a lot of rumors this time of year and a lot of them a bull but think of it this way, if he wasn’t asking for a huge contract why hasn’t he resigned?
So doesn't that fall into the category of "he's asking for a huge contract". I know "huge" is a hard to define, if he is worth $4M per season is $6M huge? Or is it $8M? He's clearly asking for more than the Fins are willing to pay or he would be resigned.
ne-go-ti-a-tions. How many other big name FA's are still out there compared to the ones that have been signed/tagged? Every year, the majority of negotiations go down to the wire.
But Bi-ll Par-ce-lls doesn't play that game. If you follow his career, when he wants a player, he gets it done, if he doesn't they leave.
I just read this on http://www.walterfootball.com "Vernon Carey has proven that he can be effective at both left and right tackle. Given the high demand for tackles in the NFL right now, some team is going to vastly overpay for Carey - and I can't really blame them for doing so. " They also gave him three stars, 3 is not a glowing in my opinion. I don't agree with their assesment on being effective at left tackle. Vastly says gone.
If you think Bill isn't directly involved in this then I have some land to sell you, and a right tackle.
Well then you shouldn't talk football this time of year, it's all rumor and speculation at this point. The only facts are when you hear player Y signed with team X. Are you new to this?
lol No, I just don't waste my time speculating and debating other people's speculations when there are no facts behind their half-assed assessments. I probably should of speculated this would happen when an article based on what "some agent" has to say, reached 4-5 pages. I'd lay off the WalterFootball references as well if you value credibility.
This entire thread is based on "other people's speculations when there are no facts behind their half-assed assessments." And I will lay off "the WalterFootball references" because of my cult following. So many people ask what does "Shoes" think of this, I wish "Shoes" would weigh in on this, what did "Shoes" have for lunch.
Your opinion is your opinion. His is his. You have not seen some of the things we have seen from him. He never intimated that YB was no good. He said YB was "consistent", "solid" and one of his "favorites". What he said was that he's "not dynamic". You can agree or disagree with that, but that doesn't disqualify his opinion....IMO. And he does have the benefit of watching the coaches film. I would agree that YB is a pretty good safety. He is one of my favorite Dolphins. But I feel he lacks a bit in coverage. Intercepting passes is part of the gig. And 1 INT in 63 games is a pretty glaring hole in a safety's game. It all depends on your definition of dynamic I suppose. Some might say playing the run and the pass. Others might point to the ability to blitz. I think Brian Dawkins is a good example of a dynamic safety. Like Bell he is sudden and athletic. An outstanding blitzer and hard tackler. But Dawkins averages an INT every 5 games (including playoffs). It's not all about INT's. And pass rush plays a part. But it is what it is IMO. Things seemed cool until you interpreted a comment he made as condescending towards you in a thread last month. OT: he is not with the Redskins.
He said Bell lacked some skills that keep him from being a top Safety and if you watch his game or pay attention to his lack of "ball hawking skills" I'd say anyone would agree. If I remember correctly his comments came in a debate where some were painting Bell as one of the premier safeties in the league that has not gotten the credit he deserves. Scouts make unbiased assessments of players. That's what they are retained to do, whether it pisses off some in the fan base or not isn't their concern in assessing a players talent. Bell's solid and we could certainly do much and I beleive we should resign him seeing as our secondary is lacking on talent. Having said that however, he's not going to be considered a top Safety in the league anytime soon unless he progresses. That's all the poster in question was saying IMO and that view isn't so offbeat that you'd doubt he was ever a scout. You should just drop it regardless because anyone whose been around here long enough knows that certain person is legit. You've already lost this battle.
Unfortunatlety he is going to be 31, so he doesnt have time to be "anytime soon" project because the way I think about it is anytime soon usually means a couple seasons. Although I definately agree we need to resign him because he is definately solid back there... remember prior to him becoming a starter anyways, his bread and butter was blitzing, not necessarily INT's.. he's definately a solid tackler.. Probably the best on the team aside from Porter, (and even that bieng said I say Bell make some tackles that Porter missed)
You may be right Muck. ......on the other hand, I wondered if the anonymous agent might be Drew Rosenhaus. I was thinking those remarks might be a part of some angle he's working to drum up some interest by Parcells for one of his FA OT clients. For instance, Luke Petitgout or (yikes) Stocker McDougle.
It's not. At least according to Rotoworld it isn't. I'm too lazy to get the article right now but it basically just said the same thing with the addition of , "an agent that does not represent or have any affiliation with Vernon Carey."
