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Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by GRT8, Jan 5, 2009.

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  1. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Exactly, we have too many holes, to few picks, I'd like to see:

    1. Carey resigned, then a NT like Raji, then CB, CB, S
    2. Tackle, then CB Cb S.

    To me, and I'm not the expert, but this draft looks like the best we can do is rebuild the Secondary, we could hope for a DE/OLB type to slide..but..
     
  2. anlgp

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    They don't have any good picks left :lol::lol::lol:

    ^ a joke. I know they have a second and such.
     
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  3. Bpk

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    I hear Parcells prioritizes front seven over the secondary, and I tend to agree... here's why.

    1) A front seven player will impact the outcome on all plays, rushing or passing. Secondary is, well, secondary to things, because it affects only passing plays (or running plays with missed tackles).

    2) A great front seven player will increase QB pressure and help the secondary.

    So, to me, YES you need good secondary players, but you need BETTER front seven players.

    I am not sold on going CB high in the draft unless Goodman is not resigned.

    I think a big, physically imposing safety like William Moore might be useful if we lose Bell. Especially as his hands are better.
     
  4. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    All true bpk, however, if the Draft is not offering up front 7 or front 5 guys, you have to work with the Draft does offer, and right now it is Defensive Backs.

    that theory is a part of the reason why I'm waiting for our man GRT8 to chime in with some insider view goodness...:wink2:
     
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  5. Conuficus

    Conuficus Premium Member Luxury Box

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    If thats the way you take it, so be it. It was never meant that way, and nothing I said was salacious. If I am wrong in that assessment of what I said then I apologize, but it wasn't meant that way. Just more of a heads up, as I saw your post count and figured you were a "newer" member. Maybe I should done it in a PM, but it wasn't meant to be insulting. No one expects you to know who he is if you've only posted 3 times as of when I responded to you.

    There was no offense meant by it, but I can't speak for your perception of what I said.

    I also pointed out that one of your points regarding a classic BP 3-4 may be overemphasized, and that thought is similar to what was expected here before training camp. Many thought the same thing earlier this year (myself included), given that is what has occurred when he was a coach. But alas, he isn't the coach and the coaches we have do have leeway to implement their own systems. As reports and pre season games appeared, it was noticed that it wasn't a classic 2 gap. We learned and moved on.
     
  6. Conuficus

    Conuficus Premium Member Luxury Box

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    It isn't always that simple. Maybe the best thing would be to look back earlier this year for a thread started by FinNasty asking what the difference between the two systems were. There are a few good posts in that thread and there are links to sites that provide more info IIRC. I cannot remember the exact date, but it was in the summer, before August I believe.

    Like I said, there are a few responses in there from knowledgeable people which should answer many questions you'll undoubtedly have.
     
  7. Coral Reefer

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    THere is no doubt we still have a LONG way to go.
    As I said last year, well not only need to make the smartest picks but we'll have to have greater luck at hitting on them then other teams to really replenish this roster to a championship caliber one quickly.

    ALL those positions mentioned in your post are definite needs.
     
  8. Nappy Roots

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    i was kidding. more or less being sarcastic. i know who GRT8 is. ive posted with him for years. theres no doubt hes a great poster and knows more about football then a lot of people, including me im sure. But that doesnt mean i cant disagree with him from time to time.

    Also your right, we arent running a classic 2 gap parcells 3-4, but we have asked our DL to do what a classic parcells 3-4 doesnt and that was echoed when they talked to the defensive lineman. They arent asked to penetrate like a more traditional 3-4.
     
  9. Conuficus

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    The penetrating style is associated with the 1 gap. The two gap is the more reactive of the two.

    Which one are you saying is more traditional? The two gap? If so yes, especially for BP.
     
  10. Coral Reefer

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    So you are on board with the thought process that Satele is either not panning out to the player we thought he would or that he's not a sufficient fit for our offense?

    Just curious.
    The Satele situation is a mystery to me quite frankly.
    I don't know if it's simply a case of him learning a new blocking system this year paired with a sophomore slump or if the naysayers on Satele are correct in their assessments.
     
  11. NorFlaFin

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    My thoughts on Satele
    Coming out of UH's run-n-shoot their were concerns about his run-blocking abilities. After two full NFL seasons he hasn't done anything to disprove these concerns, now it's time to trade Satele while hes value is still relatively high.
     
  12. joeydolfan

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    By trading Satele, Beck, Holliday or any other player another team has interest in. Once the draft starts by trading down from pick #25 which I would totally be happy with.
     
  13. padre31

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    Maybe, this isn't a deep draft IMO, we could move back, pick up some picks, and then have no really good prospects at the positions we need.
     
  14. joeydolfan

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    Depends on what position you are looking to fill. The OL, DB AND OLB class is plenty deep and all are need positions for us.
     
  15. Frumundah Finnatic

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    Parcells made him his ***** last year, can he do so again?
     
  16. padre31

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    JJ is the best kind of sucker, he thinks he is smarter then he is.:lol:

    I would bet there are more then a handful of players in Dallas (not named D Ware) who Tuna and Sparano would love to have on the Dolphins and whom Jerry Jones really can't resign.

    Chris Canty, Rob Burnett come to mind.
     
  17. padre31

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    NT as well, but as you move back, the talent pool grows more shallow, if we went Db's, unless we have a guy targeted, moving back makes sense, if we want one of the sexy pass rushing OLB/DE's, moving back will make finding them much harder.

    Maybe Wake Cameron could do something, maybe not, the NFL has a sort of bias against odd ball player procurement, even the Supplemental Draft, which produced the Raven's James Gaither and the Bolts Oliver, is looked at as something not to mess with.
     
  18. funkdat

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    Really can't tell if your trying to talk down to me or what and i don't really care if you are,but as far as YB not being dynamic.I find it hard to believe that anyone that does what you do for work would say that about YB.

    He made play after play on 3rd downs this year to help seal the game for us.He ran down what many think is the fastest player on the Chiefs "Jamaal Charles" from behind.How many other SS could of done that one, or two?

    Me and many other dolfans would seem to think YB is one of the better SS in the NFL.I think him being one of the ten best at his job would make him a very special player.

    His agent has been saying for weeks now that YB wants to say here and Miami is tops on his list, and nine times out of ten an agent would never say that, and would just be trying to move up the price.

    Sorry about my YB rant everyone.
     
  19. Muck

    Muck Throwback Uniform Crusader Retired Administrator

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    Or your #1 WR.
     
  20. Coral Reefer

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    :lol:

    oh boy.....
    This thread just got lighter fluid thrown on it!
     
  21. funkdat

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    LoL or we could trade Chad Henne to a team like the Titans,,,,,,,,lol anything "could " happen.
     

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