Pains 2009 Dolphin Mock 1.1

A mock in November? Dude, you're hard core.

1. Clint Sintim would be excellent but if Everette Brown declares I think he might be better. Just a little bit more of an impact player from what I've seen. However, Sintim is no slouch.

2a. B.J. Raji would also be excellent. With Terrence Cody, Sen'Derrick Marks, Peria Jerry, and Evander Hood in the mix we might just have a shot at Raji in the 2nd round.

2b. We have too many holes to go drafting Chase Coffman but Derek Pegues would be a nice addition. So would Emanuel Cook or Patrick Chung for that matter.

3. I don't like Eric Wood for the Dolphins and I'll tell you why. Louisville isn't known for their power running attack. The guy from Arkansas would be good. Arkansas is definitely known for their power running attack.

4. Brian Robiskie in the 4th round? That would be a major fall from grace. With his size and speed combo he will probably go in the 2nd round unless he runs really slow at the Combine or has some major character issues we're not aware of.

5. I don't know about Antonio Appleby. He's got the size but I question his playmaking ability. I'm hoping Jasper Brinkley is still on the board in the 5th round but that's probably a pipe dream.

6. We don't have a 6th round pick. We traded it to Dallas for Jason Ferguson (suckers!) but we do have three 7th round picks. Andrew Hartline could be there at the top of the 7th round. Another OT to keep your eye on is William Beatty from UConn.

7a. I don't know about Jeremy Navarre. We're pretty deep at DE.

7b. Jason Cook is a strong possibility. Especially if Tony Fiammetta from Syracuse is off the board.

 

This would be my early mock:

1. OLB Everette Brown, FSU 6-4 252 4.65
2A. NT B.J. Raji, Boston College 6-1 325 5.15
2B. CB Domonique Johnson, Jackson State 6-2 190 4.38
3. SS Chip Vaughn, Wake Forest 6-2 214 4.52
4. OG Cedric Dockery, Texas 6-4 320 5.28
5. ILB Jasper Brinkley, South Carolina 6-2 265 4.74
7A. FB Tony Fiammetta, Syracuse 6-0 238 4.64
7B. SS/FS Trimane Goddard, North Carolina 5-11 195 4.57
7C. WR Brandon Tate, North Carolina 6-1 195 4.52

 

Still not understanding the love for Everette Brown, Big Red. I know we disagreed on this before and I know your going to point out that dominant Maryland game but I still don't think he's a first rounder nor do I think he's a better player than Sintim. Brown relies on his athletic ability and he doesn't shed well. I think he's a OLB in the NFL but I don't know just how good he will be outside due to him not being able to shed, lack of various pass rush moves or setting the edge.

 

Not much out there right now but here's some guys that I've found who will be on at the SR bowl.

Cincinnati

CB DeAngelo Smith
CB Mike Mickens
OL Trevor Canfield
P Kevin Huber

Tulane

OL Troy Kropog

Shrine Game

WR Ramses Barden (Looking forward to seeing him)
QB Nathan Brown - Central Arkansas
OG Brad Gordon - Central Arkansas

Those are the ones I've found. Its rumored that Cullen Harper was invited to the SR bowl but there's no confirmation of it.

Trey Lewis is having himself a good game here. A few successful blitzes and an interception right there.

Jamarko Simmons doesn't look like he possesses quickness off the LOS and he's not a willing blocker in the run game. He works well on the short routes though. The analyst keeps referring to the dark sky and how it gives trouble to Jamarko Simmons. Simmons is having trouble locating the ball and mistimed his jump earlier.

EDIT: Another drop. Three total.

 

Mike Mickens had knee surgery and is done for the regular season. Could possibly return in bowl game.

 

You might be right about Brown relying on his athletic ablility. However, Jason Taylor relied heavily on his athletic ability and it served him well.

The knock against every pass rusher coming out of college is that he has a lack of pass rush moves. Have you ever read a scouting report that said, "This player has an amazing repertoire of pass rush moves. No further develop needed?" You know what I'm saying? They always say that. Brown has enough moves coming out of college. He's got a spin move, an underneath move, and speed to get around his blocker. He also has a nonstop motor. You know Parcells and Ireland will like that. Brown needs to work on a swim move. Other than that he's fine. He doesn't have any problem getting to the QB.

You're right to be concerned about his ability to shed and set the edge because he hasn't been asked to do that at FSU. We'll know more about his OLB skills after he does the drills at the Combine. Until then I'm sticking by him.

You mentioned the Maryland game. You know what? Virginia played Maryland too. Let's compare Everette Brown and Clint Sintim's stats versus Maryland.

Brown - 3.5 sacks
Sintim - 1 sack

Brown - 4.5 TFL
Sintim - 1 TFL

Brown - 5 tackles (4 solo)
Sintim - 7 tackles (6 solo)

Brown - 1 forced fumble
Sintim - 1 pass broken up

Of course that doesn't mean Everette Brown is better than Clint Sintim and stats are stats. Meaning they don't necessarily give you the whole picture. However, that comparison against a common opponent should raise your eyebrows a little bit. If it doesn't then I humbly agree to disagree.

Please do me a favor and watch Everette Brown against Florida. The Noles are going to get blown out but I guarantee you Everette Brown will have an impact and make a few plays along the way.

Got to go. Talk to you later.

 

I know what your saying in regards to the scouting report(s), however all I see from Brown is the speed rush. In reference to the spin move, I've seen him do it and I've seen it be ineffective.

Stick by him my friend. I'm not saying your incorrect, I just have a different view on the prospect.

I realize that statistics are in Brown's favor but he's also be asked to rush the passer every down where as Sintim is asked to do that and play coverage. I think that has to be accounted for. We'll agree to disagree on the player as I said earlier, no ones wrong here in my opinion, just a different view. I'll watch the UF-FSU game. There's a couple guys I hope to see in there and I'll watch Everette Brown for sure.

Have a great and safe thanksgiving man.

 

You reference the Maryland game, as if that is some sort of big deal that Brown had a better game against a common opponent. Well let's look at the other 4 common teams as of now (Wake forest, clemson, Miami, Georgia Tech):

Wake Forest game:
Brown: 3 solo tackles, 2 of those for loss of 11
Sintim: 3 tackles (2 solo), 1 sack for loss of 9

Clemson game:
Brown: 5 solo tackles, 3 sacks (20 yard loss), 1 hurry
Sintim: 6 tackles (5 solo)

Miami game:
Brown: 2 pass break ups.
Sintim: 3 solo tackles

Georgia Tech game:
Brown: 2 tackles, 1 for loss of 7, FF
Sintim: 5 tackles (2 solo), 3.5 tackles for loss of 19, 1 FF, 2 sacks for loss of 16.

So it looks like Brown faired a lot better in the box score in his Clemson game, but Sintim certainly seems to be more consistent, and you could also argue his GT was just like Brown's performance against Maryland/Clemson.

What does all this prove?



Well nothing. The Box score hardly proves anything. Not to mention Sintim plays as an OLB in the 3-4, so it isn't like they are even in the same situations regardless of the common opponent.

 

I've seen Everette Brown play more than I've seen Sintim play. I've not seen a game where Brown's spin-move has been ineffective, but it sure looks as though it's very blockable. Living in Ohio, we don't see much Florida State, but I'm sure he's been blocked before.

One thing that intrigued me about Brown was during the Maryland game, the announcers said that his listed weight is between 248-252 depending on where you look. They said that Brown weighs in the 260-265lbs. range. IF that is true, I think he moves up a notch on the Dolphins radar.

However, if you were to put Brown into a 3-4 defense, I think he's a WOLB, essentially what Joey Porter does now. He's a pure pass-rusher. He didn't seem to stack and shed well, but he's not really asked to do that very much in Mickey Andrews scheme, so that's something we'll have to see about.

Sintim might not be the top-flight pass-rusher Brown is, but he does a lot more better than Brown, that is for sure. If Miami were in need of a WOLB then I'd cast a vote for Everette, but we don't need one as of now, so Sintim is the better value, and the better overall player IMO. The only thing I question is will he be able to hold up at 250-255lbs? Obviously he's got time before the combine to add weight; as does Brown who graduates in December. I believe if Sintim can add 10lbs. he's a shoe-in for the Dolphins 1st round pick.

 

I Agree Boomer. There's like a 99.9% chance that selvie isn't our pick. What i was implying was that we need another pass rush threat so bad I wouldn't mind our #1 pick being a specialist.

 

I haven't seen enough of Delmas if I''m honest to come away with an assessment like that. I have ordered the Illinois game and taped last night.

Johnson......hmmm.....depends. His "measureables" or lack thereof will hurt him, but his ability as a playmaker will help. I'd think 2nd round.

 

I know some. Delmas has been invited. I'll try and dig out my list. It may be on the computer at home.

 

Thanks for your responses guys. What it all boils down to for me is if the Dolphins want to put more pressure on the QB than drafting Everette Brown would go a long way towards accomplishing that.

Happy Turkey Day! Lots of football to enjoy this weekend.

 

I think it's very unlikely that Miami drafts a one dimensional up field rusher who would have to learn a new position, from a school that has had notorious issues with conversion ends over a guy who is much better, has 1.5 less sacks, is stronger, drops into coverage and can start from day 1 because he's been playing his NFL spot for 4 years under a coach that Bill Parcells considers one of his best friends.

And I say all this as an FSU fan.

 

This should explain why he's 1000% more likely to be the pick than Brown.

 

Clint Sintim has to be our pick. It's a match made in heaven for us.

 

Well I can't say it enough; how I feel about Sintim, anyone who knows me knows this is my guy and has been since about Mid September. Compared to Brown there is no contest as far as I am concerned.

 

Question is will he be there when we are slotted to pick? If he were to be taken one or two picks in front of us would Con be able to handle it or would he rip the T.V. off the stand and curse the Gods?

 

We'll agree to disagree here.

Happy Thanksgiving to you as well Big Red, hope its a safe one.

I agree "mate".

 

Can some of you give me names of some that we could be looking at to play ILB? I feel that after OLB our 2 biggest needs on defense would be FS and ILB.

 

I wouldn't be happy about it no. Just like last year when the Packers got Jeremy Thompson, who if we would have picked him probably would be pushing Matt Roth for playing time, and might make the landscape we see before us for this draft a little different.

I have my man crushes, but I learned a long time ago to just breathe.

Eddie Moore taught me that lesson, my god that still stings.

 

Con, say it aint so? You were not actually in favor of drafting Eddie Freakin Moore were you?

 

That was a lesson learned, as in watching a sensible pick be bypassed for someone else. I had a guy I wanted, but he went by the wind for the future HOF Moore has become.

 

I didn't see him play much at Tennessee but Eddie Moore looked good on paper. I still can't believe we passed up Anquan Boldin and Osi Umenyiora for him.

 

Moore was rated as something like the 11th best player at his position. The only people who thought Moore was a 2nd rounder were his mom, dad and Wanstedt. Not even Boldin, anyone could have been better.

 

I'm pretty sure he was rated higher than that.

Eddie Moore | Tennessee, OLB : 2003 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile

Anyway, it's all good. I was just backing you up brother. I can understand why you might have thought highly of Eddie Moore at the time.

 

What made it worse was that as Rick Spielman was on the phone to Boldin about to tell him that he was a Miami Dolphin, Wannstedt was on the phone to the Dolphins reps in NY telling them to hand in a card that said "EDDIE MOORE".

 

James Laurinaitis is one, although he has real trouble in traffic and can't get off a block. I think he might be better suited outside, but I also have some speed issues with him. Rey Maualuga of USC looks a good player, but has no instincts whatsoever. I've always liked Darry Beckwith of LSU but he's struggled with injuries this season and hasn't pushed on. He's also probably 235lbs max. Jason Phillips of TCU, Worrell Williams of Cal and Josh Mauga of Nevada are interesting, but Jasper Brinkley of South Carolina might be the most interesting. He's had some injury issues and he needs a little refining, but his ceiling is high and he's a punisher inside.

Of the juniors, Brandon Spikes has talent, but I also have some issues with his game, Joe Pawelek of Purdue is a very solid player but should probably stay another year although he's leaning towards coming out. A guy who has impressed me on a couple of occasions is Micah Johnson of Kentucky who was switched outside this year, but has been very good inside in the past and has some genuine upside.

 

Thats just it, I never thought he was that highly rated, and I certainly didn't want him. I can still remember the day, and I saw it and went WTF, are you serious. I can't believe he was rated that high, dam.

I must have worded that response wrong,........you're the second person who thinks I liked the guy. I have no problem in admitting that have been way off on an a player eval, but honestly Eddie Moore was nowhere even close to being on my radar. If he was, I'd change my name to Nostradamus.

 

I thought Moore was a decent coverage linebacker, in fact one of the better ones in that class. But I was hugely annoyed at the pick given who was still on the board.

 

I know it isn't a normal switch, but maybe Luis Vasquez from ASU could make the switch to ILB. He isn't exceptionally fast but he is around the ball, and has the power and base to lock up with G's the way we want. Big reach, but stranger things have happened.

 

I think it's very hard to figure out ILB with Channing Crowder unsigned.

If they resign him, I would tend to think he would be the "star" guy, the sidelines-to-sideline tackle guy who plays almost all defensive downs. If that's the case, I couldn't see them dropping a ton of resources, though.

If they do resign him, I would expect them to try to pick up a passing-down linebacker, like Kevin Burnett in Dallas. I don't know that Yeremiah Bell moving to linebacker in alot of situations is ideal.

If you are looking for a big 2-down run stuffer though, I don't think you would have to look further than Matt Roth. The guy is powerful, reasonably athletic in coverage for a 280 pound guy, and pursues well. I think it's telling back earlier in the year when the team was getting gouged in the running game, the response was to back Matt Roth off the line into the position of a traditional 4-3 strongside linebacker.

 

Interesting scenario with Roth. If he does become the "run stuffer" from the OLB spot then it does free the team up to fill other needs on defense. He could be very good in certain situations, but it only works if the team can bring in a viable replacement for the SOLB, and one who can cover in place of Roth.

 

Speed.

 

I certainly agree with Disgust about Kevin Burnett. I'd say he's a prime target for us in FA.