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Source: Dolphins want Ryan as DC

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Nublar7, Jan 4, 2008.

  1. Nublar7

    Nublar7 Senior Member

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    http://www.palmbeachpost.com/dolphi.../04/0104fins.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=46
     
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  2. Carabinieri44

    Carabinieri44 New Member

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    why would u want Minnesota's DC???? their pass defense is like dead last in the NFL...

    rush D is good, but look at their DL....and compare that to OUR DL.
     
  3. Pjack

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    I think Ryan would be a good hire as D-Coordinator. Could be a good HC for that matter. I know Bowles has a previous relationship to Parcells but his resume is not as impressive. That Dallas secondary is not that good and his big problems defending the deep ball
     
  4. Dorfdad

    Dorfdad Well-Known Member

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    Nice find Nublar7, Its a done deal as far as I am concerned. We are going to be Dallas South now..

    Sparano will be the next Head Coach, the fact that they are flying down to Meet him before the playoffs start tells me they are just going to work out a contract im sure..

    They will meet with Leslie Frazier next week to avoid the Roonie Rule and we will have a New Head Coach by next weekend in principal.

    How the timing with him in the playoff's right now is beyond me. Im sure he will not just up and leave during a superbowl run, and I wonder if it will hurt dallas during the playoffs. Especially if the Dolphins want him to work the Senior Bowl! (or spend time watching film on players etc)
     
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  5. Nublar7

    Nublar7 Senior Member

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    The question though is, if the Cowboys make the Super Bowl, do the plans change? If the Cowboys go to the big game, Sparano can't go to the Senior Bowl or put his staff together.
     
  6. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    Nubs, you raise an interesting question, aside from Sparano being available to travel and attend the Senior Bowl if indeed Dallas is busy with SB, my question is if this is a done deal, what would prevent Ireland or Parcells from hiring all the staff on behalf of Sparano?

    Am sure each hire would have Sparano's blessing. The staff could be at the Senior bowl this way.
     
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  7. Dorfdad

    Dorfdad Well-Known Member

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    Well is there any rule prohibiting him from working on that stuff on the side? Im sure he could relay who he want's etc to the GM or Bill and they could get the ball rolling.
     
  8. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Nublar, any word on where Frank Gansz jr will end up?
     
  9. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    I predicted Rex Ryan would be considered as our head coach after Sporano. If we get him as a defensive coordinator that would be amazing!
     
  10. PhinGeneral

    PhinGeneral PC Texas A&M, Bro Club Member

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    I'm sure Ireland and Parcells will take care of the scouting part. As for staff, I would imagine Sparano, Ireland and Parcells would all basically be on the same wavelength anyway, so Sparano will probably throw his 2 cents in and then step back while Ireland and Parcells complete the project.
     
  11. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    Rex Ryan would be great. Really hope that happens.
     
  12. Trackstar

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    Question. If I'm not mistaken doesn't Rex Ryan run a 4-3 defense? Parcells and Ireland are 3-4 guys.

    I'm sure he's familiar with a 3-4 but it's not his base scheme.
     
  13. Bruzer

    Bruzer New Member

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    I would bet the ryan gets the job out of the two if he accepts..
     
  14. Vengeful Odin

    Vengeful Odin Norse Mod

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    I'd take Rex Ryan as our D coordinator any day of the week ... the Baltimore is one of the most versatile on the planet.
     
  15. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    ???? If he accepts of course he gets the job! ????

    do you mean you think if he interviews for HC and Sparano interviews for HC, they would pick Ryan over Sparano for HC?
     
  16. phinsoldia

    phinsoldia Season Ticket Holder

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    it really doesnt matter who the coach is because i know who WILL be at the senior bowl....Mr Ireland and Mr Parcells....who the tuna helper at HC is or will be really doesnt matter
     
  17. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    True dat, same with Draft Combine, etc.

    I just woudnt be shocked if Asst Coaches are hired without a HC being named officially.
     
  18. #1dolphinsfan

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    i wouldnt mind having Rex ryan as our HC but if we can get him as our D-Coach that would be great and then hire another good OC
     
  19. houtz

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    It would be amazing to have Mr.Ryan as our Defensive coordinator.
     
  20. Brown42000

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    I think Ryan can run the 4-3, 3-4 and 46 not sure though.
     
  21. Disgustipate

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    Rex Ryan ran a defense that was based on a 3-4, but used alot of 4-3 and even the 46. This year it was mostly a 4-3.

    There's a difference between the defense Ryan runs and the one that Parcells and his guys have run, however. Parcells(And by extension, Belichick, Crenell, and Mangini) utilzie a 3-4 where all the linemen are playing 2-gap rather than the 1-gap Ryan favors.
     
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  22. Dolphins77

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    I'm cool with Sparano HC and Ryan DC
     
  23. Danny

    Danny New Member

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    We could have a DC in place before we even have the HC.

    Ozzy rules!!
     
  24. NorFlaFin

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    I would think that the HC should be able to pick his own staff.
    If the presumed HC(Sparano) was Ryan as his DC, that's alright.

    I got the feeling Dom and Cam never saw eye-to-eye, I wouldn't want that cluster again.
     
  25. Trackstar

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    Alright thanks. He's a versatile D.C none the less. I know his dad ran the 46 in Chicago.

    I'd be happy with Sparano as HC and Ryan as DC. That would make for one physical & tough football team.
     
  26. Trackstar

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    I agree. However, I think the DC should be able to pick his defensive staff and the OC should be able to pick his staff.

    I think almost any HC would be O.K with Rex as their D.C
     
  27. padre31

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    Do you think that it is easier to find players for the 4-3 or the 3-4 Disgustipate?

    Which one would match our roster/Draft better in 2008?
     
  28. #1dolphinsfan

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    im not to sure about Sparano i think we could get a better guy but for Ryan i think he would be great as our DC
     
  29. texanphinatic

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    As much as people talk about him being one of the "hot coordinators" these days and last seasons fire/hire blitz as well, im not sure Id want a guy that likely wont be around more than a year or two. Bowles on the other hand would likely be around for several years.

    Its nice to throw names like Ryan out there, but, like Scott Linehan, these guys often just leave, causing yet another change. For once Id like to see a staff make it through a few seasons together ...
     
  30. Brown42000

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    Even though the question wasn't directed towards me I think it is easier to find players for the 4-3 and the 4-3 would match our roster better next season. The 3-4 requires very specific players such as big middle linebackers and big physical OLB. The ends also need to be big, around 300 pounds and strong to contain blockers while the NT is preferred by many who the 3-4 to weigh 325+ punds.
     
  31. #1dolphinsfan

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    Ryan didnt leave the raven he was fired from the ravens and for Scott Linehan i dont know y he would have stayed he got a good Opt to be a HC with a good Rams team when healthy
     
  32. padre31

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    Now we "know" who will be available with out #1 pick, would you draft the player who best fits the 3-4, or the 4-3?

    And who would that be?

    Which player could play in either system and really stand out (potentially of course)?
     
  33. Brown42000

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    I believe Chris Long would be the best choice as he has the size, speed and strength to play the JACK position in the 3-4and play defensive end in the 4-3. I have also read that he can easily put on more weight without it taking away from his playing ability which he would need to do to play end in the 4-3. He would be a great cornerstone for the defense.
     
  34. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Potentially "true" but consider there is a bumper crop of DE's coming out this year, at least 5 who have #1 pick potential (Campbell, Harvey, Gholston, Long etc.)

    There is only one DT of real note coming out, Dorsey, do you think he can play DT in the 4-3, or DE in the 3-4?

    We may take Dorsey to play DT in our 4-3 next year, and then slide him to De in the 3-4 when we acquire the players to run it, and pick up a DE at #32, and rebuild our Dline in one draft.

    Take a RT or LG at #55 and resign Hadnot, and we will have rebuilt our Oline in 1 draft as well, keep in mind we got Satele in the same position in 2007


    If we hire Ryan, we really should (IMO) look at him for 2 years, not just one, because I think we will be switching to the 3-4 in two years..
     
  35. Brown42000

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    Dorsey would be an end in the 3-4 unless he can put some weight on without it affecting his health or performance and I see Gholston playing OLB in the 3-4, that will fit him best.

    Don't be too sure about re-signing Hadnot with the new people coming in, he may want to leave and cash in on the open market which would leave 3 positions on the o-line a question mark if Hadnot does in fact leave.
     
  36. ChambersWI

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    definatly 4-3. People forget, Parcells did not even commit to running the 3-4 until he signed Jason Ferguson and drafted Ware/Spears/Canty. Finding the pass rushers for the 3-4 isn't hard, but finding ILBs,NTs, and DEs are very hard.

    As for whoever was asking about Ryan's D. He basically runs a 46 D, and has played with both a base 4-3 (last year) and a base 3-4(this year).
     
  37. lbmclean_sj

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    you might want to go behind the stats

    people said the same thing about Tomlin's defense
     
  38. ChambersWI

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    also Tomlin was never really considered HC material until he came to Miami and had a decent offense w/o Moss/Culpepper/Burleson/Robinson/ect
     
  39. b weezy

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    not being rasist but the reason for this is because he is black. it is now a rule that u must interview one black person for the head coaching job.
     
  40. REV KEV

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    You got it straight up
     

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