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Cams Termination All About Karma

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Dimahnbloe, Jan 4, 2008.

  1. Dimahnbloe

    Dimahnbloe New Member

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    I remember during the summer thinking that there is no way that Cam Cameron was going to release a certain player without giving him a chance to show what he can do. I remember thinking, how can we really judge a player by only watching him for six real NFL games and determining that he wasn’t the direction to go with. I remember thinking to myself: come on Cam, for the sake of logic, give the guy a chance to show that he is at least incapable of executing an offense, instead of assuming he just not your type of quarterback. I remember… don’t you?

    I am not a Cam hater. In fact, I think when it comes to offense, the guy is brilliant. You can put me in the small contingency of lunatics that think that his termination was a big mistake. I liked the way our offense was moving down the field in the early part of the season. I like Ted Gin at #9. I am a big fan of the beck pick even though I have not seen a single college game of his. I liked what Ronny Brown became. I am a big fan of the vertical, quick hit offense that he and Mueller were trying to put together. I am not sure if I am correct, but I believe that I read somewhere that for the first few games of the season, we were ranked in the top 10 of the league in offense. When since Danny retired had we been able to make such a claim? Yeah the guy did poor with his clock management and sometimes made some boneheaded moves, but I am pretty sure that this would not last his whole head coaching career.

    But back to the point: Ain’t Karma a b****? I mean who would have thought everything the man and Mueller did to Culpepper would have come back in exactly the same way. Lets dissect this one:

    Both Came in riding success, but pinned their success on not aggravating fresh injuries
    ---Dante is obtained from Minnesota for a 2nd round pick. He is riding the waive of a successful career. Even though he just came out of major knee surgery, he is anointed the savior of the franchise by Nick Saban. Most analyst predict that he is not ready.
    ---Cam is brought in from the Chargers, ridding the waive of a successful stint as Offensive coordinator. Cam along with a newly empowered Randy Mueller, are anointed the tandem that will bring franchise out of it’s mess. Cam’s first order of business was to obtain Trent Green who ironically had major head injuries and most analyst predicted the he would not last the season.

    Both of their seasons were technically over after less than six games
    ---Dante starts the season, has a good outing against Pittsburg, but is pulled after 4 games for lack of effectiveness, due to the injury not fully being healed
    ---Cam starts the season, has a good outing against Washington, but his season is derailed after loosing his star quarterback (same injury) and running back after only six full games

    Both Only Lasted A year
    ---After only one season played in a dolphin’s uniform, Dante is fired by cam
    ---After only one season of coaching Cam is Fired by Parcels

    Both were betrayed by seemingly trust worthy people
    ---Dante was betrayed by Saban, the high character, honest coach.
    ---Cam was betrayed by Huizenga, the unwavering, hands off owner.

    Both were put in impossible situations to succeed
    ---Cam with the lost of his star players
    ---Dante with the lost of his Starting Status

    Both tried to brown nose before being shown the door
    ---Cam and Mueller come in to clean house after coach bails on team. When the new guy comes in, Culpepper plays the dedicated QB (Not saying he’s Not), displays his want to learn, compliments his bosses offensive philosophy, stays after practices, displays good work ethic, runs hard and fast during practices. Sounds like he is trying to save his job don’t it?
    ---Bill Parcels comes in to clean house aided by his General Manager. When the new guy comes in, Cam Plays the good soldier (Not saying that he’s Not) and compliments parcels. takes responsibility for his actions and states that it is a good thing to bring him in. Sounds like he is trying to save his job don’t it?

    Both are fired because they don’t fit the system
    ---Dante was fired because he was not accurate enough to fit into cams system
    ---Cam is fired because he was not mentally tough enough to coach in Bills system

    Both Terminations are done mercilessly without either being given a chance to prove that they can adapt
    ---Dante is released without even being given a chance in practice over the summer when the coach really had nothing to loose
    ---Cam and Muller are fired with very little to no conversation from Bill except the exit interview.

    Both are survived by Cleo Lemon….

    I guess what goes around comes around huh?
     
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  2. Im speechless at the idea that some of you are still so upset over the release of DC and are actually rationalizing the so called injustice by invoking the rule of karma. Culpepper got cut because he sux. Frankly Cam is an unkown but has definitly exhibited signs as potentially sucking. Not about Karma about results.
     
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  3. Dimahnbloe

    Dimahnbloe New Member

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    Actually, I could care less about DC's current status as a football player and did not really care much for when he was in town. The fact that you think he sux or the next guy thinks he's great is besides the point of the post. I just thought it to be interesting that Cam was given the door much the same way that he gave DC the door. He let the guy go because he did not believe he fit "The System" and with no opportunity to prove himself capable. Listening to Ireland and Parcels, sounds like and his staff are on the way out for the same exact reason in the same manner. Sounds like Karma to me.
     
  4. late again

    late again Senior Member

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    Frankly, it seems to me that you've rewritten history so that you can pigeonhole events to fit your concept here.
    Culpepper DID NOT start the season with a "good outing" against the Steelers.
    48% cmp, 0 TDs, 2INTs, 3 SCKS, 49.6 QB rating. IMO not a good outing.
    I do not recall Saban declaring DC the "savior"
    Nor do I see how Saban betrayed DC. Benching an ineffective player is not "betrayal".
    If a player loses his position as starter, he has two choices. He can whine and complain and be a disruption; or he can put the team first and handle his demotion like a professional and an adult. That's not the same thing as being put in a position where it's impossible to succeed.
    In essence you're comparing apples to oranges. Sorry.
     
  5. feelthepain

    feelthepain New Member

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    Regardless of how I feel about DC, your point is valid.
     
  6. Coral Reefer

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    Couldn't have said it better.

    Culpepper's performance this year 100% justified the Phins dumping him.
    If anything, Culpepper falling flat on his face this year is the result of his Karma coming back!
     
  7. PHINANALYST

    PHINANALYST Well-Known Member

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    it has little to do with Karma or even CAMs coaching ability and everything to do with philosophies.

    Parcels & Ireland should be very similar to Saban's personnel and philosophical requirements. So, get ready to revert back to 2006 era - once again.

    I am most happy with these events, as we will finally have the big bruising team that i have longed for almost 3 decades here in MIA.
     
  8. SCall13

    SCall13 ThePhins QB

    If karma had anything to do with it, the NFL would be void of head coaches, GMs, owners, players...wait...there would be no NFL.

    There are moves made constantly that, in some fans' minds, are questionable. Karma has nothing to with anything that has transpired with Cameron. He had several things going against him: One, he doesn't fit what Parcells is looking for in a coach. Totally different philosophical views. Two, he was in over his head. He just bit off more than he could chew. There are many variable behind his failure - most self-inflicted. But seeing Daunte to the door was not one of them.
     
  9. dolpns13

    dolpns13 Chest Rockwell is my hero

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    :lol::lol: will the daunte insanity and infatuation ever end. Another meaningless Daunte thread!? Daunte absolutely sucked this year and was benched in favor of Luke Mcnown.
    Cams inability to coach and win games had NOTHING, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with daunte! Get over it.
     
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  10. Danny

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    I have to agree that Daunte had nothing to do with Cam being fired....Daunte was not the QB we needed and is still not the guy we need.

    Ozzy rules!!
     
  11. dolpns13

    dolpns13 Chest Rockwell is my hero

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    [mod]Please keep your comments civil[/mod]
     
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  12. PhinFantic

    PhinFantic New Member

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    NONE of them were about karma. Unfortunately, we all know that this is a business and performance means all !

    1.Cameron was let go prematurely, but that happens in this league.
    2. Daunte Culpepper got benched for Josh McCown in Oakland.
     

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