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Star Wars: The Old Republic Revealed

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  1. Bruzer

    Bruzer New Member

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    Star Wars: The Old Republic Revealed As Ambitious MMO

    http://pc.ign.com/articles/922/922115p3.html

    Live blog

    LucasArts Massive Reveal: The Liveblog

    http://www.swtor.com/

    This will be a very interesting game to watch developing. Bioware one of the best companies if not the best in rpg games taking a massive multiplayer. For one I loved the KOTOR games and I do kinda wish this was a KOTOR 3. Though I am curious to see how bioware does with their first mmo attempt

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  2. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    I love the idea. I am disappointed that they see this as KOTOR 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. Too bad they didn't go all Final Fantasy on us with KOTOR. It could of been a brilliant series
     
  3. Bruzer

    Bruzer New Member

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    Yea it would of been a great series. I am dissapointed in that fact.
     
  4. Regan21286

    Regan21286 MCAT's, EMT's, AMCAS, ugh

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    A major cause could be the success of the KOTOR graphic novel series. And there's still the canon issue to worry about. I'm disappointed that this is an MMO seeing as I really wanted to see them put a KOTOR 3 in a 360. They have yet to explain what happens to Revan and the Exile (maybe even Zayne Carrick).
     
  5. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    God it looks like a train wreck. Whats even worst is what they said this is essentially KOTOR 3, 4, 5, and 6....

    :pity:
     
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  6. pennphinfan

    pennphinfan Stelin Canez Arcade Scorz

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    thats really disappointing. i loved the kotor's and i almost assuredly will not be buying this game.
     
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  7. mor911

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    Sold... I'm so there.
     
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  8. Mindwarp

    Mindwarp FFH

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    Over There.
    This, Empatheticaly
     
  9. Phin-o-rama

    Phin-o-rama Well-Known Member

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    stop double posting mor
     
  10. mor911

    mor911 pooping

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    I'm so confused...
     
  11. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    Everyone is. Mindwarp should be called Mindtricks atm, avatar thief :wink2:
     
  12. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    I will say that I am going to buy this game. It looks amazing. Sounds amazing. In fact I want to win the lottery or make enough money so I can take a year off and do nothing but play this game when it comes out
     
  13. Mindwarp

    Mindwarp FFH

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    Over There.
    this
     
  14. fins4o8

    fins4o8 Mac FTW!

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    :up::knucks:
     
  15. Bruzer

    Bruzer New Member

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    We definitely need to try to organize and get on same realm/server that would be a blast
     
  16. mor911

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    lmao


    sounds like a plan
     
  17. mor911

    mor911 pooping

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    they didnt mention a release date did they?
     
  18. Ultra

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    boo
     
  19. Bruzer

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    I am not sure how this will be but I have a lot of faith in bioware. They are by far one of my favorite companies. Seem to always put out quality products.
     
  20. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    Actually I'm seeing its more story driven and your given 1 companion who his.her own story, and the storyline depends on class. This will be a first for a MMO if they pull it off.
     
  21. Regan21286

    Regan21286 MCAT's, EMT's, AMCAS, ugh

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    I agree though heck, at this point, I'd even take a KOTOR that's just hastily slapped onto the Mass Effect engine over an mmorpg.
     
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  22. fins4o8

    fins4o8 Mac FTW!

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    when the game comes out, let me know what server all of you plan to play on. you guys plan to go Sith right? :evilgrin:
     
  23. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    All I know is I am going dark side.
     
  24. mor911

    mor911 pooping

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    Sith all the way
     
  25. fins4o8

    fins4o8 Mac FTW!

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    thats what i like to hear. sith is the only way to go. :up: :knucks:
     
  26. pennphinfan

    pennphinfan Stelin Canez Arcade Scorz

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    pretty much my thoughts exactly

    in fact, i'm gonna go start a kotor 1 game again right now.. :pointlol:
     
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  27. Regan21286

    Regan21286 MCAT's, EMT's, AMCAS, ugh

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    I can never get enough of it and that is a testament to how great that game was.
     
  28. fins4o8

    fins4o8 Mac FTW!

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    I have always preferred two over one.
     
  29. Regan21286

    Regan21286 MCAT's, EMT's, AMCAS, ugh

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    The 2nd one was so buggy and convoluted that it nearly ruined the experience. The PC version crashed every 20 minutes and they forgot to delete all the content they removed from the game. A few people looked into the code and they found whole new sequences, subplots, and items that didn't make it into the final product still on the disc. Pretty much a half-assed piece of work by Obsidian that piggybacked on what Bioware did.
     
  30. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    That is not true at ALL. Obsidian busted their ****** to make KOTOR II a wonderful experience. It was a combination of Obsidian trying to do too much and Lucas Arts not giving them enough time and sticking to it having to be released.

    Obsidian had one year to upgrade the system and create an epic dynamic story line. They had to familiarize themselves with code that they did not write and then make it better. A lot of the reasons the subplots and sequences were cut were because of bugs that they just didn't have time to fix.

    If they had 6 more months to work on this game it would of been an much better experience. Especially at the end.
     
  31. Regan21286

    Regan21286 MCAT's, EMT's, AMCAS, ugh

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    Yea, if they had more time, it would've been better. But they didn't and what got out there was half-assed.
     
  32. fins4o8

    fins4o8 Mac FTW!

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    While obsidian didn't do a great job, the blame should lie with LA. they forced Obsidian to release the game before it was finished. I have read about those issues but never experienced them myself on my PC.

    I did use a lot of fan made mods & fixes, so that's the reason why I never experience these said bugs, plus I didn't buy the game until years after the game was released.

    While KoTOR 1 storyline was awesome, i prefer the look and combat system of two more. to each their own.
     
  33. Regan21286

    Regan21286 MCAT's, EMT's, AMCAS, ugh

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    Thankfully, many of those responsible for the whole mess at LA are either on different projects now or fired. But either way Obsidian didn't do a good job and I've seen quality games produced in less time that still were less buggy and better rounded.

    For me, it was every 15-20 minutes so I had to save accordingly. Heck, even my X-box version froze more than any other game.

    That's true the look and combat was better though the storyline was nothing compared to the first especially with a lot of holes.
     
  34. Bruzer

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    The problem is obsidian probably had all these ideas to make KOTOR 2 just as great. Then into production Lucas Arts demanded faster release. So all their work and ideas had to be changed and scrapped. Causing the bugs that occurred. That's my guess.
     
  35. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    name one that has over 40 hours of content.
     
  36. fins4o8

    fins4o8 Mac FTW!

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    I hope LA doesn't rush Bioware in making SW: KoTOR MMO. Speaking of Bioware, I hope they make ME2 & 3. Love ME & can't wait to see Dragon Age.
     
  37. Regan21286

    Regan21286 MCAT's, EMT's, AMCAS, ugh

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    40 hours of content that's not built from scratch and hardly tested.
     
  38. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    more half done than half assed.
     
  39. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    they didn't build it. It takes time to figure out someone's code and engine. Generally it takes at least a month if not two.

    It also takes time to test programs. It takes time to fix the bugs. It takes time to fix the bugs that are caused by bug fixes. In a game that big there should be at least 2 months of bug finding and fixes. They did not have that time.
     
  40. Regan21286

    Regan21286 MCAT's, EMT's, AMCAS, ugh

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    They had Bioware's full technical support for the Odyssey game engine. It shouldn't have taken more than a month if they were competent. Yes, it takes time to fix the bugs but the bugs that popped up on their game were things that could've been caught and fixed the first day of testing.
     

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