Anyone have a vid or pic of Ronnie or Porter taunting LT?

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They show him doing it about 2:45 into the video.

 

from rotoworld:

EXCUSES!

 

Well, I hope they weren't getting up to anything classless by trying too hard to hurt LT. Lay a hard hit on him, sure, evebn step on him a bit, but twisting the cleats, if done on purpose, is almost as bad as Haynesworths kick to the head.. it;s intentional, malicious and intends to hurt a guy well outside the scope of what's necessary to tackle them on a play.


Also, I don;t like the taunting. Low class.

I dislike LT since he became a razz=pizzazz show off and whiner the last couple of years, but I am very disappointed to see Ronnie, who is usually soft-spoken and quiet, taunt another team or player by mocking their celebration.

It's in poor taste, and one should be graceful in victory or it simply isn't worth winning.

I love what Sparano said immediately after the victory: that the Dolphins players and coaches must all stay humble when they win.

Thank you, Tony, I couldn't agree more.

 

He did go limping off the field after being tackled. He has become an extremely soft player these past two seasons.

 

i generally do not like taunting very much and i may be mistaken here but, in the first half sometime didnt a charger linebacker do joeys sack celebration? our team seems like a really tight group and maybe ronnie took exeption to that? i dunno maybe id just like to think that this team is really close and if you mess with one you mess with all. i dunno. all i do know is this is the most exited ive been about our team in a long time and i hope we can keep it up

 

While I'm not a real big fan of the taunting, do keep in mind that these guys have endured more than their fair share of taunting last year and are extremly excited to have the opportunity to get excited and celebrate and even taunt. Regardless of what your stance is, it's a good thing because the boys are now playing with some swagger.

 

I believe you are talking about Matt Wilhelm in regards to doing "Joey's" celebration. If you are talking about the Silly little soccer kick, then yes Wilhelm did it a handful of times, when he stopped the Wildcat. I guess I didnt realize it was "Joey's" antic to begin with.

As for the taunting, this really really deminishes the win IMO. Not really surprised Joey was doing it, VERY VERY surprised Ronnie was doing it. If they have an issue with LT keep it off the field. LT has been nothing but a class act folks. Dont even give me this crap about him being soft or a whiner. The dude has carried the rock about a gazillion times since coming out of college.

 

i think thats exactly what happened...

 

Ronnie has done that for a while now, I really don't think he was taunting LT.

 

Classless is right. Even more so when you are still in no position yet to be pulling that kind of crap.

 

I didn't see any taunting, so this makes me feel better. Reports of it were making me enjoy this win a little less.

 

Brown has done that in the past when scoring, people are just making up the taunting part because LT was on the sideline.

The Chargers were doing the Porter kick from the start.

 

Yeah, I saw Wilhem do the kick a couple of times. Like I said, I think it was whenever he was able to stop Ronnie from the Wildcat.

Didnt realize it was Joey's patented move. Sorry, but watching Wilhelm do it, I couldnt help but feel sorry for the guy as he looked like a second grader. Guess I dont understand the Soccer kick as being significant.

 

Everytime the Chargers stopped the Wildcat plays, they'd act like they cured AIDS and did a little dance, namely some dickweed named Wilhelm

 

You've obviously never been a fan of the Univeristy of Miami?

Ladies and Gentlemen, this is called "swagger" (pronounced swa-grrrr)

This is what happens when a confident team beats a very good team. I realize it's been quite a long time since we've seen it and some of us are a bit confused. But make no mistake, if we keep winning you'll see more of it... it's been know to be quite contagious.

 

Bro you should be glad we didn't see more of Sproles. That would of made it harder on our defense.

 

I'm sorry but I disagree. There is a big difference between having an excess of confidence manifesting as arrogance (swagger) and simply mocking another person.

swag-ger
1. to walk or strut with a defiant or insolent air.
2. to boast or brag noisily.
–verb (used with object)
3. to bring, drive, force, etc., by blustering.
–noun
4. swaggering manner, conduct, or walk; ostentatious display of arrogance and conceit.


mock
–verb (used with object)
1. to attack or treat with ridicule, contempt, or derision.
2. to ridicule by mimicry of action or speech; mimic derisively.
3. to mimic, imitate, or counterfeit.



When a player pounds their chest, says "I'm number 1", flexes his arms like Roth did... that's swagger.

When a player imitates the celebratory move of the key player on the opposition team as they are beating them, it's mocking.

One is malicious-spirited (the mocking) and the other is simply over-confidence that is more about celebrating one's own ego, NOT attacking someone else's.


I simply don;t feel it's classy to be malicious.

Now, as to people saying that Ronnie does that celebration all the time, maybe he does, but I have watched every game since Ronnie got here and don't remember ever having seen Ronnie do that celebration. If the first time I notice it is in a game when the Chargers are mocking Joey Porter's celebration, and when LT is on the sideline... I am going to believe that Ronnie did it as a message to the Chargers.


Did the Chargers 'start it'? Maybe, but that doesn't make it classy to do it back to them.

Send your message by beating them with your play on the football field, or by letting them know you're better than they thought. Both can be done without the football equivalent of sticking-your-tongue out at them and going 'nyah-nyah-nyah-nyah-nyaaaah'.

Childish.

Call me an idealist, but football is my escape from the everyday maliciousness, difficulties, and lack of humanity shown in the world we live in. It's my three hours of being entertained and passionate about something I love. If the same attituides that aggreive me about the troubled world today are on display in my pastime AWAY from the world, it simply ruins it for me. I can go out to the park across the street right now and find a half-dozen middle-aged weekend warriors with pot bellies on the basketball court talking trash and putting other people down. The world is full of people miserable with themselves and willing to do that garbage.

The team Tony has built has inspired me the last two weeks, and I don't want it sullied and muddied by negativity and malicious intentions.


To be clear, I *don't* think Ronnie is a major example of that, but I *do* see that sort of attitude starting to creep into this team and I don't want to see it go any further.

 

why does everyone call it swagger? Call it what it is being an *******

and for the record as long as it doesn't get out of hand t.o. or ocho cinco style I don't care. The chargers were pissing me off with their celebrations also so f them

 

Well, being a football fan means something different to each person, I think, depending on what it does for them.

For me, intentions are important in life. I stopped buying Madden because I found out how EA treated its employees like crap (I have friends who work there). I cannot enjoy supporting people or organizations whose intentions I don't believe in.

That's why I care about this sort of thing at *all*. You are right, though, that it's not a big deal right now. Still, years ago I admired LT, because he kept his mouth shut, never denigrated his opponents, didn't taunt people, etc. After his record breaking season, and over a couple years when he went "Hollywood" (as the NFL Network piece on him describes: "LT Goes Hollywood"), he seemed to become much more egotistical and self-centred. He began throwing more tantrums in the press about opponents, yelling on the sideline at times, sulking and being a ho for the dollar in endorsements to boot. He seemed to build a temple of ego that led to me disliking him. It had become more about him, and he had lost his humility, to a large degree.

So, for me (maybe only for me), I enjoy football a lot more when the players I root for are also nice people with good intentions. The same way I love ThePhins.com because it was started for the right reasons, by people with whose values I am in agreement.

Now, there's nothing really bad or worrisome going on with the Dolphins and Ronnie is NOT displaying the same problems as LT.

BUT I get concerned when I see a little sign that could be the first step in that direction.

 

I am VERY happy we won. Of course I am happy, and I dont think just because I dont like seeing the childish behavior that diminishes anything. I just think it means more without the BS that seems to come with it at times. Some of this taunting and such is nothing more than rubbing somebodies nose in the "You Know What". I say there is zero room for that in Professional sports.


I do agree with the last part. I am VERY glad we dont have TO, Scatman Ocho Me-o or a number of other folks in the league. If Joey Porter is the worst we have to endure, that is easy.

 

I understand where you're coming from, but I know from playing sports that emotion is always more easily left in check while watching from the couch.

I cant tell you how many times Ive seen a player taunt another and think "what a dumbass", only to recall times Ive done it myself after striking someone out or hitting a home run off a cocky pitcher.

Point being, both teams were mocking each other and I for one like the emotion displayed. Its a far outcry from the attitude and identity this team has had the last couple years.

Call me "new school", but I love the Bryan Cox, Louis Oliver, Joey Porter mentality in a football player. I understand not everyone has this opinion, but as I said earlier Im a fan of "The U" so I guess Im a little biased

 

Hey, if that's what it takes to get into LT's head, so be it.

I'm all for a team of good guys Mon-Sat but, on Sunday for a mere 60 minutes, I want hungry, mean, junk yard dogs on that field snarling, biting, and lifting their leg on the opponents.

Whatever it takes!

 

Sorry, and this might be hard for some of you to imagine, but I really dont understand what this reference means?

Serious I dont?

 

Well, The U (Miami) were known for being the most arrogant, cocky, and trash talkin' team in the country.

They'd mock you, smack you in the mouth and call your momma a bad name. They'd tell you they were gonna kick your ***, and they did.

I've always loved that attitude even though many purists hate it.

 

The times when the Hurricanes dominated , they mocked and had a swagger. I personally loved it. I think it gets into peoples heads and gets them aggravated. If they get to aggravated, they are prone to mistakes.

 

I think the thing that's being lost is that Ronnie did it in front of our bench, facing our bench. He was not taunting them. The cameras simply caught it.

I don't know who came up with it first, but the Chargers LB's were doing the kick that Joey does all day long in the middle of the field.

 

Which is why LT didn't throw a fit about it like he did 2 years ago when the Pats mocked the Merriman "Lights Out" dance.

Players mock each other quite a bit. I remember when Chambers caught a TD against Chicago a couple years ago and did the Mushin Muhammad "dribble though the legs" thing or whatever its called.

Not to mention the whole league was doing that ridiculous basketball shot the Giants came up with a while back.

 

They were pulling the same crap by doing Joey Porter's kick throughout the game and Stephen Cooper was yelling at our sideline and kissing his biceps on the final drive. The players had every right to mock LT's celebration with the crap the SD defense was doing.

 

yeah bro I saw that too. I don't like taunting but what's goes comes around.

 

Some call it "Karma."

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Sorry could not help it...

 

Yeah, now I get it.

As a COMPLETELY Neutral in regards to the "U". I would have a tough time watching that, and almost instantly would have me rooting for the opposite team.

Was this around the same time-frame that all of those "U" players were being indicted on felonies?
Just trying to connect the dots is all

 

Nah, it was the time frame where UF's arrests when up like crazy while we dominated. (They have 97 in the last decade, we have six )

 

Gotcha, and thanks for clarifying. Have to understand, I get pretty much ZERO insight to what you guys live all-day everyday

 

Ronnie did do the LT taunt when the game was iced I think. I saw a vid of it last night. I'll see if I can find the link.