What does Josh, Lamar and Herbert have in common?

Burrow has, if that's the Joe you're referring to.

 

I can't attack Allen or Burrow. They're really good.

Herbert has proven so far to be the biggest choker of them all, and Lamar is getting better but is justifiably being criticized nationally for not being able to win in the playoffs — he really has no excuses with the team he's been on.

Anti-Tua guys would have more credibility if they applied the same standards to all QBs, but they don't.

 

This is some weak trolling. Literally nobody ever said judge them by super bowl wins. We judge them by their abilities to win playoff games and big games against good teams.

Any GM in the NFL and anybody with at least 2 brain cells would choose Joe, Lamar, Josh, or Justin over Tua without even giving it a second thought.

 

So in the same post you say you judge QBs by their ability to win playoff games, yet you're still in denial about Herbert being the biggest choker of all the QBs mentioned.

Once again you show you can't apply the same standards to all QBs. If winning playoff games and games against good teams is the standard, then Herbert comes in last among the QBs mentioned, and Tua > Herbert.

 

Some? Years of backpedaling lol. He's running out of new places to put them goalposts!

 

Tua and Allen have the same amount of road playoff wins.

0

 

No, because Herbert has a better record against teams with winning records, he has gotten his team into the playoffs more times than Tua has, and he has exactly as many playoff wins as Tua has, Zero. So Herbert is still greater than Tua.

 

I have no bavkpedeling to do if trolls would stop making up imaginary golpasts that nobody ever said were goalposts.

 

You have no credibility whatsoever. How many times did you tell us it was irrelevant if Tua took us to the playoffs. Here's one post:
https://thephins.com/threads/dolphins-browns-week-17.99641/page-4#post-3681526

Sorry, according to your own criteria, Herbert is the worst QB of the bunch because all that matters is playoffs, not making the playoffs because that's "not a big accomplishment".

 

Years of backpedaling is necessary for you to even be somewhat consistent. You're so inconsistent in your views there's no credibility left. It's still worth pointing out all the inconsistencies though. And you being so utterly wrong about Tua, from claims he couldn't play well with a bad OL, couldn't be a good deep ball thrower, claims he couldn't play well against good teams, etc. show us how little your evaluation matters because it's so often wrong.

 

Wrong

 

Herbert hasn’t won a playoff game. Lol

 

It's worse for Allen because he's 0-4. What's funny is 3 of them are against KC. KC has to be in the nightmares of Buffalo fans.

 

Yes, Herbert is the worst QB of the bunch mentioned by OP at this point, but he is still better than Tua.

 

Not according to your own criteria. Making the playoffs is irrelevant according to your own criteria. That means winning playoff games. And Herbert is by far the bigger choker, meaning the probability of winning a playoff game with him is lower.

Just try to be honest about this for once: your OWN criteria tell us Tua > Herbert.

 

No it does not, genius. If Tua had actually won a playoff game at least once then he would be better than Herbert by my criteria, but he hasn't, so he's not.

 

Nope lol. Herbert choked like Tua never did, and with a much better team including the #1 defense. Let me remind you about your boy Herbert in the playoffs: 1 TD and 4 INTs with a 40.9 rating in the most important game of his career.

Herbert lowers the probability of winning in the playoffs (based only on what we've seen thus far of course) way more than Tua. You're not being honest. Your own criteria imply Tua > Herbert.

 

First of all I am a Burrow guy but stop comparing Tua to Jackson or Allen.
These guys have won playoffs games ,our guy has appeared in one and wasn't even a game.
And it's really dumb when Tua is 1-8 against the guy you are comparing him to meaning Allen.
Not to mention Tua is 0-3 vs Mahomes.
You guys sound like third graders,well my guy is better because!
Take off ur aqua and orange sun glasses or are you really Alabama fans?

 

Tua threw 3 int, had a lost fumble, and a passer rating of 60 against the same Texans team, even though Tua has many weapons and a track team to throw to as opposed to Herbert who has only 1 real good reciever to throw to.

And again. Tua could not even get his team to the playoffs let alone win a playoff game.

 

Wasn't in the playoffs. Playoffs are different remember? That's your OWN criteria. Again, Tua > Herbert by your own criteria. Just (try to) be honest about it.

 

Again, no. You are just grapsing at straws. My goalpost has always been win a damn playoff game, and win big.games against good teams. Neither Herbert nor Tua have made it through those goalposts yet, so neither of them are good enough yet.

But based on what the have done so far, Herbert is still better than Tua.

 

No, Herbert chokes more than Tua in playoff games, i.e., he lowers the chance of winning one more than Tua. So by your own standards Tua > Herbert. Also, don't kid yourself. If the stats were reversed and Tua had 1 TD and 4 INT and a 40.9 rating in the playoffs.. OMG.. you'd be trumpeting how much worse Tua is in the playoffs than Herbert.

We all know that. You're just not willing to be honest enough to admit it. Your own criteria imply Tua > Herbert.

Also, it has not "always" been the case that your goalposts were winning a damn playoff game. You had so many goalposts that you systematically moved each time Tua showed he could do what you said he couldn't. So winning a playoff game was one of the later goalposts, and one that's still standing.

 

Nit losing more playoffs games was not my goalpost. Winning a playoff was my goalpost. Until Tua or Herbert do that, they are both not good enough. Tua has done absolutely nothing to prove he is better than Herbert at winning playoff games and winning big games against good teams.

 

Technically the rating is a predictor of performance in those conditions, so statistically you can make the argument Tua > Herbert based on the probability of winning a playoff game (albeit with extremely small sample size for both, which means we really should wait until we have large enough sample size).

In any case, all I'm asking is that you no longer act like Herbert is better than Tua based on the criteria you've used in the past. If you can accept that we're fine.

 

Check this stat out

Josh Allen has converted 29 out of 31 qb sneaks for first downs this year

McDaniel and Tua 0

there something really wrong going on around here

 

Yep!!!Not in playbook.

 

So here is the million dollar question.Which of these Qbs would you want to lead your team in order?

 

Not for me it wasn't. I said I wanted competitive in the playoffs.

100% a troll post