Season 2024 Playoff Talk.

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  1. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    Herbert sucks

    Discuss
     
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  2. cbrad

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    They're definitely discussing it on the Chargers message boards! lol. 4 INTs, a pick 6, most important reason the Chargers lost while playing with the #1 defense. A quote from a poster:
    Sums it up perfectly.
     
  3. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    Lamar may be in the middle of his 2nd very good game out of 7 total (including this one). Ravens are looking unstoppable.
     
  5. cbrad

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    Yeah.. I've always said you need a minimum of 150 passing attempts for passer rating to be even somewhat reliable, and Lamar had 136 attempts after his first 4 playoff games, all abysmal. Then he had a great game only to follow it up by another doozer. This would be a great turnaround for a guy who has looked like a playoff choker.

    Flacco was another guy who had 120 attempts and absolutely abysmal ratings across his first 5 playoff games only to play great in his 6th game and eventually turn into a great playoff QB. We'll see if Lamar can do that.
     
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  6. ExplosionsInDaSky

    ExplosionsInDaSky Well-Known Member

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    I've noticed a trend with the playoffs on the wild card. These games have all gotten very one sided over the last few years. I mean, lBaltimore already has this game won. TV already airing Derrick Henry ccommercials. Houston straight up pimp slapped Justin Hebert and the San Diego Harbaughs. The games have been boring.
     
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  7. cbrad

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    Some of the NFC WC games might be competitive this year. Vikings at Rams and Commanders at Bucs have to be difficult to bet on because the visiting team was better in the regular season. The Chargers game was also kind of unexpected. That was supposed to be a competitive game.. before Herbert decided to not make it competitive lol.

    2022 was not too bad btw. 2 games lopsided 2 a TD difference and 2 within 3. And few compare to 2016 where the margins of victory were 13, 20, 25, 18 lol.
     
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  8. ExplosionsInDaSky

    ExplosionsInDaSky Well-Known Member

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    Ok...George Pickens needs to be a Miami Dolphin. Pittsburgh is going to lose, but this kid has played tough. Just a gritty player. Put him next to Waddle.
     
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  9. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    He's a talent, but also inconsistent and often a loose cannon. But regardless, he's not a free agent and I don't see a reason for Pitt to trade him. Nor do I feel like spending draft capital to do so. It's why we are an old team on a bunch of one year deals.
     
  10. Silverphin

    Silverphin Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't go that far. But I do wonder if he's still going to weaponized by certain people with a certain agenda.
     
  11. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    Yeah… he doesn’t suck. That’s me being funny. He’s not as good as Tua, however.
     
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  12. Tuanon4Life

    Tuanon4Life Well-Known Member

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    He definitely sucked today and it's starting to look like Herbert wouldn't have given us any more success than Tua in the playoffs.
     
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  13. ExplosionsInDaSky

    ExplosionsInDaSky Well-Known Member

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    Cool man, I just said he's an impressive player. I didn't ask if Pittsburgh wanted to trade him to you. You're not the GM. Go back to your online Frisbee golf game. My comment wasn't made under the assumption that he was available. I was merely saying "wow...He's talented" FML!
     
  14. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    I don’t know if the Chargers/Texans game was unexpected. I hemmed and hawed all week before making my pick on that game. I went against my intuition in picking the Chargers.

    Should have listened to my gut. Demeco Ryans had that defense dialed up and Herbert looked like a lost rookie out there.
     
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  15. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    I picked the Texans, but thought it would be closer. And for as much crap as I give Herbert, (mainly because he’s allowed excuses around here and so many people drool over him) I don’t think 2 playoff games is enough to judge him. Although, he was HORRIBLE. Imagine if that were Tua. The media and some here would be screaming for him to retire/be traded and call him a bust. Since he’s the 6’6”, rocket armed, blonde haired white guy he’ll get a pass from the media and some here.
     
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  16. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    Sorry about the Herbert disaster show. Hopefully some of you have gotten over it.
     
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  19. cbrad

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    Yeah Herbert's a good QB, no question. We're giving him crap only because people unfairly give Tua crap. Both are franchise QBs, though as of yesterday Tua > Herbert.

    Minimum sample size with passer rating should always be 150+. Herbert is only halfway there at 75 in the playoffs, so we'll see. And the same is obviously true with Tua in the playoffs. But yesterday was so utterly horrible it's the perfect ammunition against anyone suggesting we should have taken Herbert over Tua.
     
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  20. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    I can’t love this enough… lmao
     
  21. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    Typical response (non) from the Herbanons. Where did they go? I guarantee you if Herbert had lit it up this forum would be filled with the “told you so’s” and c*ck gobbling. Instead, as per usual, they’ll disappear and avoid anything that shows them to be wrong while they hope it’s all forgotten about. Lmaoooo

    And when/if they come back they’ll have excuses for Herbert’s play. And what’s funny, there are some legit things that made his play even worse than it was if his teammates had played better, but they never give Tua the same concessions… so **** them.
     
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  22. cbrad

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    Thing is.. there are no excuses for his play yesterday.
     
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  23. danmarino

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    There were a few bad drops, not saying that excuses his horrible play or the game would have been won by the Chargers, but his passer rating may have been a little more respectable with a few more catches and another TD pass. Still would have been bad, but not 40 bad. Lol
     
  24. texanphinatic

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    Cool, so just so you are aware, when you post on a public board .... other people can respond. And they may not agree with you or may bring different ideas or perspectives, and that's OK! Guess you were having an off day or something.

    Anyone else ready to see if Denver can pull off an upset? Would love to see Buffalo go down today.

    And in non-playoff news, Vrabel is the next coach of the New England Patriots. I thought it odd they didn't go after him last year. I feel like it's an OK hire. He's got some experience to get things off the ground and running, but I'm not sure of his offensive chops for developing Maye. I was hoping they wouldn't snag the Lions' Ben Johnson, so at least that didn't happen. I'm not scared of Vrabel, but I do think he can be stabilizing and improve that team.
     
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  25. ExplosionsInDaSky

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    I wasn't rooting for Herbert to fail just because we have Tua. I like Herbert, he's a good quarterback. Texans D just ate him alive yesterday and that's ok. It happens. Tua struggled against Houston too.
     
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  26. The_Dark_Knight

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    I don't have anything for or against Herbert but the only reason I find any self satisfaction when Herbert stumbles like he did is all of the anti-Tua talk and how Herbert is so much better. Which in my opinion is simply not true.
     
  27. Tuanon4Life

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    Same. My step father and a close friend (both Dolphin fans) both have been telling me for five years Tua ain't the guy and we should have picked Herbert. This should at least give me a year off from hearing it.
     
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  28. RGF

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    Herbert was garbage, period. Houston's D is legit but JH was just horrible. It doesn't make me happy he was garbage but it does put things in perspective when dealing with the Tua haters/Herbert lovers around here. Where are they now ? Why aren't they saying Herbert was trash?
    If it was Tua that played that game last night instead of Herbert all those know-it-alls would be tripping over themselves trying to get to their keyboards as fast as possible.
    Therefore, they're not to be taken seriously.
     
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  29. Striking

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    Herbert is like Tua, doesn't have enough trustworthy receiving options. This is the first year Tua I think had a full complement of receivers and unfortunately he was hurt too often to take advantage of it for a full year. Herbert had several drops yesterday but overall played poorly. I wouldn't rank it as one of the worst performances because of those drops.
     
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  30. Tuanon4Life

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    Hill allegedly played all season with a broken wrist, Waddle was injured off and on, Berrios tore his acl, Washington missed the beginning of the season, and OBJ started the first quarter of the season on IR before being released.
     
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  31. pumpdogs

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    Herbert sucked last night but he is not a bad QB.
    I don't think he is elite but then again either is Tua.
    Not many Elite Qbs in the NFL but unfortunately all of them are in the AFC unless you consider Staddford or Goff..
    Do I think we can win with Tua if he can stay healthy.Yes if they can build a team like Philly.
    I seriously doubt either will happen and definitely see another concussion coming because this dude is to frail and stupid to protect himself.
     
  32. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    And the backtracking begins…. Lmao
     
  33. pumpdogs

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    Everything I said in those posts is 100 percent true.
    Thanks for the reminder.
    Lol!.
     
  34. cbrad

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    Except the part about it being a dream if we picked "choke master" Herbert.
     
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  35. pumpdogs

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    Poor choice of words.
    You know my real dream was Burrow
    Or do I have to bring up my 2019 post?.
     
  36. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    And yes I would still have taken Herbert over Tua.Tua is one concussion away and you all know it from being out of this league.
     
  37. byroan

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    Every player is one hit away from being out of the league.
     
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  38. pumpdogs

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    Yea ok
     
  39. cbrad

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    What's the point of availability if you choke when it matters most?
     
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  40. pumpdogs

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    So Tua never chokes?
    Really?
     
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