Jests have fired Robert Saleh

The man has every right to show support for his family and people, but as the public face of a high profile organization you have to be careful about literally wearing your politics on your sleeve.

On his own personal time whether in private or in public I completely understand and admire the man for having the courage to show his support for his people who are by and large wrongly vilified by many. Just leave the pin in the car when you go to work.

Now I will say if others in the Jets organization were publicly wearing similar paraphernalia that showed support for Isreal or Ukraine and no action was taken against them, then that would be blatant discrimination.

 

i have doubts that Davante Adams is a Jet after this, and even when Saleh was around, still had doubts of the Raiders making that trade happen.

this is not the NBA where disgruntled star player forces a trade to a team he wants to play for. And the NFL has showed several times that theyre not the NBA and do not give into trade demands. They make it s point to let everyone know whos in charge.

Davantes situation to me reminds me so much of Randy Moss on the Raiders. The raiders had this guy that you know in a better situation will explode.. but they also hve a guy on his last legs.. and thats what i think you get by trading for Adams, a guy that has two years left as a top 10 receiver.. maybe top 15.

 

I agree with most of what you posted. Unfortunately, the 1st Amendment protects people from the government, not private entities. And although I have no issue with the pin sans accompanying statements about why he wore it, I would have a problem with somebody for wearing racist or political clothing or pins. Saleh didn't have the capital to put Woody on the spot with reporters' questions.

 

Football reasons are why The owner got rid of that guy..

it’s been obvious to me for two years so I’m sure someone clued him in.

This whole “ I’m so schooled” from pundits is a joke.. shows their lack of intuitiveness when it comes to that position.

 

Unfortunately? Are you saying that a private business owner shouldn’t have the right to fire a person because of things their employee may have said?

 

I agree with DJ, the Jets fired Salah for football reasons ie; the Jets suck but let’s just say, for the sake of conversation, had Salah’s wearing of that pin led to his dismissal. I would simply ask, “And?”

The NFL has a strict dress code for its players on the field with zero tolerance for deviation, except the “my cleats my cause” week. So if the players are held to that standard, why wouldn’t coaches?

But reiterateing…the Jets suck which is the reason he was fired, bottom line. Even with the signing of Aaron Rodgers, they suck THAT BADLY!!!

 

This is kind of what I was saying earlier. I remember several years ago when Johny Unitas died Peyton Manning wanted to honor him and wear the black high top cleats and the league said no. But High Exhaulted was right that this is actually something pushed by the league as "heritage month". I don't get it. Why push for something that will offend and divide some fans over pins? Now whether it had anything to do with Saleh getting fired or not it creates controversy regardless.

 

Somehow, I always overlook Woody Johnson when listing owners that are worse than Ross.

 

It was already stated in the thread that it was part of "Heritage Month" in the NFL, and all coaches were encouraged to wear items that symbolize their ancestral heritage if they decided they wish to.

 

Its a flag. Who gives a ****

 

OK so if a player wants to wear a Confederate flag that should be cool right?

 

People would care but nobody cares about him wearing the Lebanese flag which is the point. He wasn't fired for it and he has worn it before. Who gives a ****.

 

Maybe you don't care personally but I can assure you that saying "nobody cares" is false. Do you follow what's going on concerning Israel?

 

There was no controversy over him wearing it

 

It‘s heritage month, nobody should care and it’s not like he is representing a hamas flag or anything in that aspect.

 

This. I am of partial Ukrainian/Slavic descent. If I chose to wear a pin to show my support for my ancestral heritage, especially during an officially sanctioned league period to promote pride in your heritage, and ownership had some problem with my wearing that particular flag I would rather not work for them.

 

You say that as if you are stating Israel is the victim between Lebanon and Israel. That would be a statement regarding a political position, or at least a naked allusion to a particular opinion as if nobody dare question the nature of your decision on right and wrong.

A flag is a flag, no matter what colors are upon it.

 

You can interpret what I said any way you like. Here's what I'm saying. I DON'T CARE about what heritage any player or coach is in the NFL but some people do. I see no benefit of heritage month. If a flag is a flag then put a Confederate flag or a Nazi flag on a coach's sleeve and let me know how that goes. There are people who might be offended by a Lebanese flag. This is the world we live in. Everything is offensive.

 

First off, I didn’t realize it was Heritage Month. Secondly, since when does the NFL have Heritage Month? I thought October was breast cancer awareness month (save second base), but then that evolved into every cancer. Now it’s heritage month???? God I’m so confused anymore!

Regardless, Salah wasn’t fired for wearing a pin depicting the Lebanese flag, so all of this back and forth is moot. Quit making something out of nothing. It’s arguing for the sake of arguing.

 

Fair enough aside from the Confederate and Nazi flags which have a definitive association with certain horrific atrocities. Besides that I agree with most of what you said. I don't see the harm in a Heritage Month, but for sure see how many might be offended whether I agree with them or not an any particular issue. Neither a Israeli or Lebanese flag offends me quite frankly. I feel sorry for the innocent civilians in both countries who are suffering and losing loved ones.

 

You're definitely not wrong on that last fact. The door to butthurt was thrown wide open, and Saleh was just the first dude to walk out through it.

Edit: Excuse me, he was the first dude to be escorted out through it. Oh Jets, thank you for another good laugh, but I'll still always hate on you.

 

When you say the Confederate Flag, are you referring to the flag of the Confederate States of America or are you referring to the Confederate Battle Flag? There is a distinct difference in the two and a distinct difference in the purpose of each of these flags.

Sorry, this is the well-educated historian coming out in me.

 

One stood for a confederation of state governments that wished to maintain the course of basing their entire economic system on brutally abusive slavery and murderous racially based oppression. The other is the flag the men defending that system rallied under to fight a war in resistance of emancipation. The differences between them are trivial and semantic. They are both underpinned by a dogged determination to prolong the life of a brutally oppressive, exploitational, and blood soaked economic system.

 

Don't put words in my mouth. It's not unfortunate for me or to me. I'm saying that there is a presumption that people have a right to free speech and many find out the hard way that it's not the case. I've known people who got fired for stepping over that line and it sucks to be them, which is unfortunate.

With that being said, Woody Johnson is among the most openly political NFL owners and IMO, it appears that he holds himself to a different standard than his employees. And that is also unfortunate.

 

Really? Instead of reading books on history that solely focus on politics, perhaps you should reading a few on military history. Might I suggest “Memoirs of Robert E Lee”, “The complete Memoirs of Ulysses S Grant” and “The American Civil War: The Military History” by John Keegan.

It’s so easy to use a broad paintbrush to lump simple boys and men into the same category as aristocracies yearning to maintain wealth and power. Simpletons do that.

There’s a distinct difference my friend between knowledge and wisdom.

 

You wrote “unfortunately”. Me asking you a question and quoting you verbatim isn’t putting words into your mouth.

 

Someone put their hoighty toity pants on because the truth offends them.

Fwiw I referenced a shared economic system and civil rights, not politics.