Oh right concussions aren't related to CTE at all. Dan why you want to argue this? Repeated concussions are a cause of CTE.
Not really. Unless we’re talking about 1000’s of concussions. CTE is thought to be caused by the tiny, 1000’s of hits that people like football players take to the head. When we see a former NFL player with CTE, the CTE was mainly caused by their youth and college playing days. And around 2/3 of the hits players take to the head are from practice. Tua’s concussions will have no bearing on him getting CTE.
They probably don’t help though and concussions are definitely a thing for him, it’s not like he’s just dinged up, he’s out + you’ve got the fencing which makes it that much worse alone from the looks. I don’t know, it’s his decision to make but I don’t know if you can really plan with that as a franchise.
Concussions don’t help anything, but they also don’t cause cancer, diabetes, etc. So saying they cause CTE is wrong. The fencing posture is a good indication of a concussion, but it’s not really anything that says how severe the concussion was. A person who was never even knocked unconscious can have a worse concussion than someone who was and had a fencing posture. And 65-85% of people who are knocked unconscious exhibit a fencing posture. There’s nothing unusual about Tua’s concussions.
"Chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE) is caused by repeated head injuries, including both concussions and non-concussive impacts. This type of brain trauma leads to the degeneration of brain tissue and the buildup of abnormal proteins, particularly tau, which can result in various cognitive and behavioral symptoms over time." Just Google CTE
Concussions cause CTE like smoking causes lung cancer. One doesn’t CAUSE the other, but it can contribute to it. Res, you said google CTE. I did and I saw the same google response you posted however since I am the Dark Knight and defender of the truth, I continued scrolling down until I came to a source who’s reputation is beyond repute, The Mayo Clinic https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases...c-encephalopathy/symptoms-causes/syc-20370921 Even researchers don’t fully understand CTE so if they don’t, it’s pure hubris to assume any of us do.
Not the point I was trying to make at all. Tua gets a concussion and the NFL conducts the Spanish Inquisition. Heck, if any Dolphin gets hit hard or falls weirdly, a “spotter “ forces them out of the game - remember the BS Bridgewater incident? Meanwhile, Mahomes gets an obvious concussion, or Carr gets 2 in three weeks, or … and the NFL doesn’t open a Congressional inquiry. Plenty of guys (on certain teams) take hard hits and “spotters” are conspicuously silent. My point was that the league has teams that it likes and teams that it doesn’t. Miami is on the naughty list, and has been for some time. We got punished far worse than other teams for “tampering “, and we routinely get jobbed by the refs with no league scrutiny. Remember the Eagles game? Imagine if the penalties were that lopsided against the Chiefs, or the Patriots of a few years ago. That was my point - it had less to do about concussions and more to do with how the league is run these days.
NFL and NFLPA were also trying to cover themselves because of their own policy failures in regards to the Buffalo game in 2022. Media members like ESPN had a stake in covering for the league and also made it about the team and what they did wrong even though they seemingly did nothing wrong. You got to let the tampering go though. They were as blatant as you can possibly get. Put all your anger on Ross.
Show your link. I think you’re ignoring the rest of whatever you copied. And you’re not understanding. As I wrote in my first post, unless a player has 1000’s of concussions, concussions aren't really causing CTE. It’s like saying, “3-4 drinks can kill a person” because they had 3 drinks on top of 50 drinks. When in reality, drinking a couple bottles of Jack Daniel’s may kill a person. Study: Hits, Not Concussions, Cause CTE “The same brain pathology that we observed in teenagers after head injury was also present in head-injured mice. We were surprised that the brain pathology was unrelated to signs of concussion, including altered arousal and impaired balance, among others. Our findings provide strong causal evidence linking head impact to TBI and early CTE, independent of concussion,” explained corresponding author Lee E. Goldstein, MD, PhD, an associate professor at Boston University School of Medicine and College of Engineering.” https://www.bumc.bu.edu/camed/2018/01/18/study-hits-not-concussions-cause-cte/
No. That’s not how this works. The claim is that concussions cause CTE and now that Tua has had 4 concussions (1 in college and 3 in the NFL) he is at risk for CTE. That provably false. A person gets CTE from 1,000’s of hits to the head. Or course a concussion is typically a hit to the head, but his 4 concussions will really have no bearing on if he gets CTE the same way a $5 bill has no bearing on whether a person is a billionaire or not.
They got hammered because they got caught and because it was so blatant. I can't think of any comparison to any other example of tampering. There is no reason for the league to have in it for the Dolphins like that. That kind of fan paranoia just doesn't make sense. The Brady angle doesn't matter either because there isn't a reason for it to.
More reading (with links): “These results provide added evidence that repeated non-concussive head injuries are a major driver of CTE pathology rather than symptomatic concussions, as the medical and lay literature often suggests,” said study senior author Jesse Mez, MD, MS, Associate Professor at the BU Chobanian and Avedisian School of Medicine and Co-Director of Clinical Research at the BU CTE Center." https://www.massgeneralbrigham.org/...ts-not-concussions-drive-cte-risk-in-football "Parents need to understand that playing tackle football does increase your risk of developing CTE, and it is correlated to how many years you play," says Chris Nowinski, the CEO of the Concussion Legacy Foundation, a nonprofit in Boston that advocates for concussion prevention among athletes. "That's an important message if we ever want to prevent this disease." https://www.science.org/content/art...ou-could-develop-signs-traumatic-brain-injury "There is no evidence that an occasional blow to the head will lead to CTE. But there is strong evidence connecting CTE to repeated head impacts, whether or not they cause concussions. CTE is caused by repeated blows to the head that injure the brain's cells and blood vessels. This creates areas of microscopic bleeding and abnormal protein deposits called tangles, which kill brain cells. Most people with CTE have had hundreds or thousands of head impacts from years of playing contact sports such as American football, boxing, rugby, hockey, or lacrosse. In fact, U.S. women's lacrosse ranks second only to American football in the number of concussions experienced by players." https://www.health.harvard.edu/mind...nderstanding-chronic-traumatic-encephalopathy
Slow down, I was agreeing with you. I wasn’t saying concussions cause CTE. They can lead to CTE but there are still so many unknowns that researchers haven’t been able to conclusively say “THIS or THAT is the cause of CTE”. The one thing from the article from the Mayo Clinic that cites concussions in relation to CTE is that if a person receives multiple concussions prior to the brain healing before receiving a subsequent concussion increases risk for CTE. Nothing that concussions cause them. You’re a bit excited about this subject which I get but don’t automatically assume someone posting something on the topic is instantly challenging you. Like I said, I’m agreeing with you.
Carr got 2 concussion in 3 weeks and never missed a single game, obviously their situations are different. Is that because his concussions were "milder" or is it because they weren't in prime time? My point was that the Dolphins are under the microscope more than every other team in the league and it's putting the Dolphins at a competitive disadvantage. Just this week we are now missing both Armstead and Fuller to concussions, we are the only team in the league who's guys never clear concussion protocols and play the next week. If the NFL were serious about concussions they would implement something like "x weeks missed for concussions" but that will never happen as half the starters in the league would be missing. Instead it's all these "protocols" and left to teams to decide if the optics are good enough to trot players back out or not.
Well I would start with Tua and Carr are two different people. How long had Carr been in the league when his incident happened? Do you bring this case up as evidence that Tua should have no restrictions, or do you bring it up because it is a case where you feel rules should have been stricter? I feel like it's the second
Rules should be consistent but at the moment they aren't. If the media miss your players having a concussion or don't kick up a stink about it then you are free to rush them back as soon as you can. I've no issues with Tua going to IR if that is what he really needed. Thing is, he was cleared to fly across country, he's on the side lines, he's in meetings helping other QB's out etc. What if he has cleared concussion protocols already but the Dolphins are holding in out simply because of the optics of the situation? In contact sports if someone gets knocked out they aren't allowed to fight again for 90 days, obviously the NFL would never implement that as that basically means missing the season if you get knocked out/concussed so does it matter if someone misses 7 days or 28 days if they cleared protocols within those 7 days?
