Tua...''He's the greatest prospect ever''

My reply was within the context of the question asked of me. Reading comprehension, please.

 

As I previously answered, I decline your proposal. If that is still not clear enough, the answer is no.
Thephins.com is the internet's finest forum for Miami Dolphins fans, so why would I want to leave such a place?
Obviously it is possible that Mr. Ross and Grier will make the same stupid mistake as too many other NFL teams; overpaying for the QB position. If that happens, and when Tua leaves the golf course to take the field 25 pounds overweight, slow, immobile, flustered by any sort of pass rush, I will find it interesting to read the complaining about his play from the same participants now wanting him to receive a fat new long term contract.

 

Bash the forums, bash the forum members, and bash the Miami Dolphins.

This is the epitome of a Dolphins fan and he’s not trolling…

I guess when you switch teams every three years that means you’re a real fan.

 

Go back and re read your previous posts. You obviously don't remember what you write. Reading comprehension please.

 

"While Tua is playing on his 5th year option" (reading comprehension bro)

 

These are your goalposts in case you forgot what you wrote.

 

No disrespect intended and if you have a learning disability I understand that's not your fault and difficult to manage.
Again, yes I do believe that Mr. Ross and Grier intend to honor the the 5th year rookie contract option everybody signed March , 2023, and that they expect Tua to do the same.
However, if I am wrong and the Dolphins management makes the mistake of signing Tua to an extension for multi years and big dollars I am prepared for Tua to gain 25 pounds and be on the field out of shape, have a few sacks take him out of game (s), the Dolphins to not make the playoffs or have another one and done appearance, have Mike McDaniel get fired and have a new coach question whether the immobile Tua is really the best person to play QB, see selfie photos a smiling Tua posts on Instagram from upscale golf courses around the world etc...

 

Then what team would you switch to next?

 

I am a Dolphins fan for life.
As was previously written, and I am not sure why there seems to be a reading comprehension problem here, the only reason I dropped the 49ers and Raiders was because those teams abandoned their home cities.

 

Dear Lord. Will we make it for two more months of this?

 

No disrespect but you're a fraud. You're stance has consistently been Miami isn’t going to sign Tua and instead will let him play out his 5th year. You're now backpeddling and trying to change your position into an "if they sign Tua" argument. At least you're finally accepting that Tua's going to get his deal and your initial position was wrong.

 

The "fraud" is the teacher (s) which gave you a passing grade for reading comprehension.
My position has been and continues to be that Dolphins management will have Tua play this season on the 5th year of his rookie contract.
Nothing I've written is "backpedaling" and, or an attempt to change from my position. Yes, I've written about what would happen if the Dolphins did extend Tua but that commentary only reinforces my contention that Mr. Ross and Grier won't make that mistake.

 

You don’t have a position because you’re a troll.

 

For life??!! LMAO! How old are you? You’ve been a Dolphins fan for less than 5 years. Are you 6, maybe 10 years old? I guess that would make sense if you are a child.

You live in SF and claim to have been a 49er fan but dumped them when they moved their stadium 45min North. Right? What kind of a piss poor fan would do that?

So what do you do? You immediately change loyalties to the Raiders. A team that has changed cities more times than I can remember and whose fans (real fans) would punch a 49er fan in the mouth if given the slightest chance.

Then the Raiders go to Vegas, and because you appreciate the loyalty from the Dolphins owner when he votes against the Raiders (your current team for life at the time) moving, you jump that ship and become a “fan for life” of a team over 3000 miles away.

You’re either the dumbest troll in the world or just a stupid mother-****er.

 

Remember all the Dolphins fans that abandoned them when they moved out of Miami and went to Miami Gardens? Lmaooo

The Dolphins moved 20 miles north of Miami and the 49ers moved 40 miles north of San Fran. I guess the extra 20 miles was the straw that broke the camels back…

Oh, wait, he’s only been a Dolphins fan for 4-5 years. He’s probably unaware of their history. But he’s a “fan for life”. Lmao

 

Reading comprehension, please. I wrote "Thephins.com is the internet's finest forum for Miami Dolphins fans".
Please understand the definition of a forum is a place for the free exchange of different perspectives and opinions, and that Thephins.com exemplifies same.

 

Don't forget, he was also a Raiders fan until they moved from Oakland. Again. And then, when most people would choose a team that has players they like or think will reward their fandom, he chose a team with a quarterback that he wants to get rid of. Make it make sense.

This cat is throwing darts at football cards on a corkboard to figure out which one he's choosing to be a lifelong fan of. Talk about being rooted in shallow ground...

 

I was fine with the Dolphins drafting Tua and optimistic that he could lead the team to the Superbowl. However, it was disconcerting when Coach Flores questioned Tua's work ethic.
When McDaniel was named head coach I had renewed optimism for the Dolphins , but the team's performance has fallen short of my expectations. The back-to-back second half of the season collapses has been especially revealing and disappointing, which I believe is evidence that the head coach job is too big for Mike McDaniel. The short pass offensive strategy has helped Tua pad his stats, but those stats are meaningless towards winning against the League's best teams and, or making it to the Superbowl. On a personal note I was very alarmed by Tua suffering 3 concussions during the 2022 season and because it became clear he was prone to concussions I believe he should have retired from football.

 

I mean, I haven't been the most pro-Tua guy, but you can't act like he hasn't thrown deep. He's had some of the best numbers for air yards, and throws deep a ton.

 

Careful Res, this guy will tell you to improve your reading comprehension if you make him look silly. He's a lifelong Dolphin fan too ya know?

 

Yes, the best long ball passing QB in the NFL over the past 2 seasons pads his stats with short yardage throws.

Stupid trolls gonna troll…

 

Yup. A lifelong Dolphins fan for five years. He's got me by -47 years.

 

You know, Aquapride is actually providing a very valuable service here.

His dumping on Tua for no other reason than just dumping on him is making ALL of us reaffirm what we already know…

Statictically, Tua’s quarterback play the past 2 seasons under McDaniel has been elite.

Flores, though a great defensive minded HC was the wrong coach with a rookie quarterback to seven.

Wins and losses are a TEAM stat, not an individual stat.

Even those of us who have debated Tua and on opposite sides of the man can all agree this guy is as lost as a b@stard on Father’s Day.

Speaking of which, for those of us who didn’t pull out, Happy Father’s Day!

 

Aquapride- “Tua can’t win a playoff game.”

Real Dolphins fans- “Tua has played in 1 postseason game.”

Aquapride- “Yep, he can’t even win enough games to get into the playoffs.”

Normal fans- “Tua, as a full time starter, has lead the team to back-to-back playoff appearances.”

Aquapride- “And last season Tua was beaten by KC.”

Real Dolphins fans- “You mean the Dolphins were beaten by the defending (and soon to be again) SB champions in KC. Was Tua on the field by himself? Is Tua the reason that KC also beat the Ravens and Bills? Kansas City's defense allowed the fewest second-half points (126) and the second-fewest points per game (17.3) in 2023. In the postseason, the defense tightened up and allowed just 15.7 points per game. Must be because of Tua, huh?”

Aquapride- “I’ve been a fan of this team forever! At least 4-5 years and I’m sick of being let down. We need a rookie QB if we’re going to ever win a Super Bowl. Either a rookie or another team’s castoff or backup. THAT’S the key to winning.”


Real Dolphins fans- “What a moron.”


Lmao

 

Translation:

 

https://phinphanatic.com/posts/late...-chris-grier-finally-got-message-01j0dzfcs8vj

Great article... It almost seems like it's written for a life long Dolphin fan who believes Tua will play his 5th year option because the team isn't committed. Unless it's just my poor reading comprehension again.

 

Another sign of a troll are those that drop in a few times per day and post nothing. They’re hoping that they’ve riled up the fans and are hoping to see their handiwork.
Aquapride, and a few others, do the same around here.

 

Hey, @Aquapride it looks like the Chiefs will be moving about 20 minutes from their home in MO to KS. Do you think all their “life long fans” will by changing their teams to Miami now? Lmao

****ing dork

 

What matters is winning a Superbowl, and over paying for a concussion-prone QB who folds in big games and spends more time on the golf course than he does practicing football is not the way to do that.
The theme of the article you linked should have been to applaud Ross and Grier for not making the mistake other teams have made.
The author does not understand that Jacksonville just hurt themselves for the next 5-years, that Hurts and Prescott contracts are a problem for the Eagles and Cowboys. The author wanting the Dolphins to follow these teams down the wrong path does not make good sense.

 

You’ve got your head so far up your *** that I’m surprised you can find your keyboard.

Go away, troll. You’re not a Dolphins fan and even if Tua wins a SB you’ll never give him credit. You have no idea what you’re talking about. The Jags see franchise level play in Lawrence. Most people with half a brain see it. Has he lived up to that? Not yet, but he very well could. He’s played on some horrible teams, and that context matters. I mean, he’s better than Mac Jones and Cooper Rush, guys you think are better. Lol…

 

LOL. They've been screwing running backs for half a decade and now, after losing control over QB salaries, they're trying to change the game. Who wants to bet that Jerry Jones and Stephen Ross were among the proponents of this? If I was representing the union, I'd propose that QB salaries be unrestricted but only count up to a max of 20% of the cap.

Some NFL owners discussing potential QB salary cap in wake of escalating market, per report
The idea, however, doesn't appear to have legs

By Cody Benjamin

1 hr ago•1 min read

With every new quarterback contract in the NFL, more eyebrows are raised at the inevitability of record-setting dollar amounts at the position, with even inconsistent and relatively unproven signal-callers commanding historic hauls. The league is well aware of the situation, according to NFL Media, with some team owners privately discussing the possibility of a separate cap on quarterback salaries.

The reasoning, Tom Pelissero explained on "The Rich Eisen Show," is that "at some point you want quarterback numbers to not go over a certain percent of your salary cap." For reference, the Cincinnati Bengals' Joe Burrow earns an an NFL-leading average of $55 million per year on the contract extension he signed in 2023, which means his deal alone is projected to account for an average of nearly 25% of the Bengals' entire salary cap per year, leaving the remaining 75% for the rest of the roster.

Adopting "an NBA model" might be one way to better regulate those percentages, as Pelissero noted. The NBA currently has "max" and "supermax" restrictions for free-agent and long-term contracts, limiting the number of players teams can sign to a certain dollar amount, while capping the percentage of the salary cap for which maximum deals account. The idea "really hasn't gained traction" among NFL owners, however, "in part because so many teams have paid their quarterback," contributing to the position's escalating market.


Which raises another point: If an NFL team feels forced into a cost-prohibitive deal for a quarterback that has yet to warrant the club's total commitment, that team can always simply not sign said quarterback. It's easier said than done in a league where a total quarterback reset brings plenty of risk, prioritizing the unknown over the familiar. If the concern, however, is dedicating too much salary-cap space to one player, then it's up to the organization to zig when the rest of the NFL is zagging. And, hopefully, find a good alternative under center.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...-cap-in-wake-of-escalating-market-per-report/

 

This should have been done a long time ago IMO.

 

Kurt Warner Weighs In On Tua Tagovailoa & Dolphins'
'Locked On Dolphins'

 

Quarterback salaries have gotten utterly ridiculous! Using the Burrow comparison should be a serious wake up call for not only the league, but individual teams and moreover, individual quarterbacks themselves.

While I am a pure capitalist and believe anyone should try to make what they can, being a player on a team has its contradictions to that. Personally, I feel that any team that ties up so much of their salary in ONE player is foolish. A team has 52 players and if one player garners $25 out of $100, that means the remaining players are only going to get, on average, $1.47 out of $100. What kind of team can you build paying a player $1.47?

And on the other side of that coin…if you as a star quarterback actively pursue that obscene of a salary, you’re pretty freaking selfish and your career is going to eventually reflect your selfishness when you end up with no talent around you.

I’ve often thought, prior to this article that positions should have max salaries; granted some salaries higher than others but salaries that nonetheless virtually guarantee you of your millionaire status and would make players more eager to play for a particular team rather than chasing the Almighty Dollar.

 

I will take Kurt Warner's opinion over anybody's on this board. Tua's strongest attribute is his accuracy. It's hard to argue that he locks in on targets when (a) he completes nearly 70% of his throws, justifying those looks, and (b) his line breaks down in a heartbeat, necessitating quick decisions. With that being said, he HAS to feed his guys in order to keep defenses honest. We now have an absolutely stacked WR room as well as good hands on our TEs and RBs. A successful season for him (and the team) will occur because he used OBJ, WR4, Jonnu Smith, Julian Hill, and all of the backs. I know he likes to go downfield, but we can sacrifice YPA for sustained drives and honest defenses.