Titans (4-8) vs Dolphins (9-3) Monday Night Football

The shift to blaming McDaniel has already started as expected, when in reality the fact he made things look as good as he did is nothing short of a miracle.

 

It's not that Tua was playing scared after Williams went down...there was no protection on the line.

Tua has good pocket presence. When the rush is coming from the outside, he does good job of stepping up into the pocket but after Williams went down, there was no place for Tua to go.

The Dolphins gave up 5 sacks...FIVE!!!! Against a team whose sack stat ain't the best.

Don't get me wrong, there were some throws that Tua SHOULD have made, but this was a COMPLETE team loss.

The play calling was terrible!! We get the ball in the redzone...what was it, the 4 or 5 yard line....and we don't run the ball ONCE?

The Titans implode and we get the ball in the redzone twice, RUN the ball and go up by 2 touchdowns with 5 minutes left in the game...and the defense goes into full prevent mode?

We get the ball back and all we have to do is get 2 first downs....TWO and the game would have been over...and we can't execute? You have Hill on the sideline...the Titan KNOW you're going to run the ball and clog up the middle so Moestert and Achance have no where to go. At that point int he game, why would you leave your most dangerous weapon on the sideline? You have to at least have him out there to make them account for him!

I can handle losing. When you lose to a division rival that was in the AFC championship game, ok...it sucks but its not like you lost to a scrub team

When you lose to the defending NFC Champions and odds on favorite to win the Super Bowl, ok...it sucks but its not like you lost to a scrub team.

When you go toe to toe with the defending Super Bowl champions and barely lose, ok...it sucks but its not like you lost to a scrub team.

This should have been such a lopsided victory for the Dolphins that the starters should have been on the sidelines during the 4th quarter. As much of a gut punch as it was for us fans, it should be 10 times that of a slap in the face for the team.

Sometimes a team needs an embarassing loss as a wakeup call to get them back on track. Hopefully this loss will be that for the Dolphins.

 

When your QB is throwing in 2 seconds, sack stats are relatively meaningless.

 

Exactly. Look at what the Broncos have done since the Phins put 70 on them. Hint: They're 7-3 following that *** whipping

 

If the sacks occur on 1st or 2nd down and you’re able to convert, but if those sacks occur on 3rd or 4th down, it’s QUITE the meaningful stat.

 

Well once Tyreek went out, Tua was confused on where to go with the ball. They took away the 1st read well.

Like on the last sack to end the game, he had 3 seconds. You aren't going to get more time than that. He had multiple options for the 1st down, but was looking deep middle down the field, and he doesn't scramble/run well and basically tripped on his own man stepping up in the pocket.

 

Well, maybe so but they still managed to put 30 points on the board in the second half. In the rain no less.

 

What?

1. They didn't put up 30 points.
2. The defense scored 7 on their own.
3. The defense recovered a failed punt return, and gave the offense 1st down on the 6, and they ran the ball in for the TD.
4. The defense created another fumble, and gave the offense 1st down on the 12, and they ran the ball in for the TD.

....so yeah, the passing was completely shutdown and the offense generally crapped the bed. The defense was the only reason this game was close.

 

Exactly. The Eagles, Chiefs, 49ers, Ravens, Cowboys, Bills etc have all had more than one loss this year against "bad" teams. The Dolphins suffered their first loss against a bad team and it was completely due to injuries. It's hard to win games with your 2nd string oline. It's even harder when your center goes down in the game leaving you with 4/5th's of that oline. Throw in Tyreek missing nearly the entire first half and the offense can't score.

Now, the casual and Tua hating fans will, of course, blame him, but the fact is he had a 90+ passer rating last night. He's good enough that he makes a below average oline look serviceable. I don't care who was at QB last night, they wouldn't have played any better. Look at some of those aforementioned losses by those teams I just mentioned. The QB's had 50-60 passer ratings.

Williams getting hurt was the #1 reason they lost last night. Tyreek played the entire second half and the offense still couldn't score. Tua, who is the best at getting the ball out fast, had no time to throw.

In the past, Eich with a week to prepare, has fared a lot better at playing center. Hopefully he can do that and McD can scheme a game plan this week that creates a better offensive rhythm.

Like you, I'm not overly concerned. However, this loss definitely put the Dolphins behind the 8 ball and made this next game a must win. And we REALLY need Dallas to beat the Bills. If Miami can beat the Jets, and can go 2-1 in their last 3, no matter what the Bills do we will win the division. Ideally, those two wins are against the Ravens and the Bills and with a Dallas loss the Bills won't get in.

Some saving grace is the Bills are still the 11th seed and as of now don't hold any tiebreakers over the other 7-6 teams. If they win their next 3, that week 18 match up may be the game they need to get into the playoffs. Depending on what the other 7-6 teams do.

This scenario was the biggest reason as to why I was rooting for KC to beat the Bills.

 

Every team has lost to a lousy team when the stars align, so this certainly is not panic time. The Jets have a little momentum though and that game is now critical to get back on track.

 

You're relentless, if nothing else at least you have that going for you.
Are you forgetting we BOTH know what I meant ?

 

The 49ers had a stretch where they couldn't get out of their own way, the Bills faltered and made things difficult for themselves, the Chiefs look vulnerable, the Eagles all of a sudden don't look as dominant as they were earlier. So yeah, there's a silver lining out there for the taking IF the Dolphins learned a valuable lessen last Monday. Like I mentioned before, this week will answer a lot of our questions.

 

I agree, its probably more rational to just ignore it all and take it where it comes from but sometimes it's enjoyable to point certain things out.

" irrelevant " Lol

 

It is not a "one read" offense. That is wrong, it's just parroting nonsense that talking heads like Cowherd spew. If you've been saying that you are wrong. Tua just does a really good job with his pre-snap reads and progresses very quickly. If the first read post snap is open and Tua hits it, that doesn't mean it's a "one read" offense. Reads happen before the snap too, and those change progressions. Motions aren't just about receivers getting clean releases. The Dolphins also have two WRs that get open very quickly and can threaten deep. That is not a combo that many WRs have, and opens so much space. Tua and the wide-outs have mitigated OL injuries this year. But, too many were hurt. 4 of 5 OL starters were out, and some of the positions were on 3rd and 4th string after the shuffling caused by Williams going out in game. Add another in game loss like Hill and the playbook is restricted and the game-plan is out. Miami absolutely still should have won that game. Just bad coaching in the focus department. So many fixable mistakes change the outcome.

 

I have no idea what you meant? The offense was a$$. End.

 

It's Barry Bad Takes. He's probably blaming Tua for the loss.

He's also probably getting excited for his Cowboys to beat the Dolphins in 2 weeks time.

 

Missed the game being out of town. Just watched the last three minutes. Depressing management and was surprised on no time outs left. Dallas all of the sudden seems really ugly for the remaining schedule.

 

I didn't realize it was a two score game with 4 minutes to go until watching Hard Knocks.

WTF happened??

But the offense was scoreless in the first half.

 

This and the Jets game were the ones to win, the last 3 are going to be mighty tough and probably classed a bonus win.


FD

 

I don't understand the mindset of "just one loss." Up 2 scores with 4 minutes left, and we LOSE? That's ****ing pathetic.

It's a really bad loss. Also, the offense was **** even with Hill in the game. Zero points in the first half is completely unacceptable.

 

How many losses does Mondays game account for then. ?
And here we thought- albeit ugly- it was just one L.

Good thing you're around to set the story straight. Kudos brother.

 

I agree with everything you're saying but it's laughable to see the reaction of some fans. The season is over mentality is a total overreaction. IMO this team has been getting more and more cocky in the last month or so anointing themselves as Super Bowl champs before the playoffs have even started. This loss could be a blessing in disguise giving them a much needed wake up call. Or they implode from here but I tend to stay positive and believe this pushes the team to grind harder down the final stretch. How they respond Sunday will set the tone from here on out.

 

but have we beaten a good team ? feeling like any given Sunday does not apply to the Dolphins

 

Been saying the same thing.
They might have believed all the hype thinking they're a legit #1 seed and they can beat the inferior Titans in their sleep. A rude awakening to say the least and this Sunday will determine if they learned their lesson.

 

Because it's an anomaly. Despite that loss we're still #2 in points scored per game. We beat every team with a losing record up until Tennessee. This isn't a pattern yet. It only becomes a problem if it's a pattern. So wait and see if it does against the Jets before saying it's anything more than "just one loss". If we beat the Jets playing well — especially if the offense plays well against a good Jets defense — this game will be remembered as nothing more than a learning experience to never become complacent.

 

Are you freaking kidding me?

You guys won't even criticize for an awful loss.

I'm the bad guy?

Ridiculous.

 

Of course it is absolutely anomaly.

I didn't say it was a pattern. I said it was a bad loss.

It was.

 

You said you didn't understand the mindset of "it's just one loss". Because it's (so far) an anomaly, it's "just one loss". The severity of the loss is irrelevant as long as it's an anomaly. They all count the same on the W/L column.

 

I'm missing something. Direct me to the post where someone said this wasn't a bad loss. And show me where anyone claimed this loss was absolutely meaningless. I see a lot of , "have to move on from it" posts, and "I hope they learned their lesson" posts. But I didn't notice anyone claim it wasn't a terrible outcome.
Do you really need someone to say "WE NOW SUCK", to make you happy and feel better ? If some choose to chalk it up as only one loss, albeit terrible, and want to move on, that annoys you ? Seriously?

 

So it's completely cool to make an obvious statement like "It's just one game," but it's completely ridiculous for me to disagree with that?

You guys are ridiculous.

 

You haven't seen the posts where someone voices a concern about that loss, and the response given is either "It's just one game" or "Every good team loses to bad teams sometimes”?

Haven't seen those posts?

More likely it's that no matter what I say, you gotta argue with me. I didn't even say ANYTHING about Tua.

It was a bad ****ing loss. It's not a good ****ing look. It's ****ing concerning.

 

I say bad because we had a two score lead with 4 minutes to go.

Blowing that is terrible It's an awful loss.

 

Did you see my initial post? I asked WHAT HAPPENED because I didn't see it. I didn't get any responses.

So, after I realized that they blew a two score lead with 4 minutes to go, I started responding to the people minimizing the loss.

So if I'm understanding correctly, on this forum I can no longer criticize the team, I can only offer praise or solutions? Yet, I'm not employed by tht Dolphins so any solution I suggest won't go anywhere.

Plus everyone would probably argue with me and tell me she the reasons why we don't need to fix anything. All teams have problems is what I'll be told.

 

Oh I've criticized this loss. There's NO WAY a top 10 defense allows a bottom 10 offense to score 2 touchdowns with 5 minutes left in the game. NO WAY!!!!!

I'm not going to repost my previous post but bottom line, this was a complete TEAM loss.

To paraphase Belichick, the Dolphins were served a slice of humble pie...deservedly so.

 

Yes you've been reasonable in your assessment