Moving on - NY Giants vs. Dolphins

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  1. JJ_79

    JJ_79 Well-Known Member

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    Feels good to see them where they belong.
     
  2. Springveldt

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    We just managed put up over 500 yards of offence, scored 31 while having 3 turnovers and winning by 15.
    I’m not sure why this team has to be perfect for people to be happy.

    I just watched the Bills stink up the place in London with Allen turned into a dink and dunk game manager. I watch him under throw 2 different receivers who were wide open for touchdowns and I saw him throw an arm punt to the Jaguars.

    Sure we could have played better but it was more than enough today. Back in first place while the Bills lost major defensive starters. I’m more than happy with today.
     
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  3. cbrad

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    He's at 460 rushing yards right now. However, Christian McCaffrey is at 459 with only 4 games. So not quite the leader yet, but he might be by season's end.
     
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  4. Wilkimania

    Wilkimania Well-Known Member

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    Didn't Achane miss week 1 so they've played the same games for now.
     
  5. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    Yes
     
  6. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    Achane didn't play week 1 and had 1 carry in week 2. He's averaging over 13ypc. Insane numbers...
     
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  7. cbrad

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    Yes, in terms of games played. So rushing yards per game (and per carry) Achane is very good. But for season record of total rushing yards (what Pauly was asking) McCaffrey still has a game to go.
     
  8. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    His arm/hand hit Connor's helmet and caused the ball to sail.
     
  9. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    If he was able to keep this average up, and had around 250 carries on the season (which is about average) he'd have over 3500 yards rushing. lol
     
  10. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    Not really. He had over 100 passer rating and one bad decision throw on the pick 6, but other than that he played well.

    If you're concerned about the 2nd INT, his arm/hand hit Connor's helmet and caused the miss. Waddle was open and it wasn't a bad decision.
     
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  11. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    What things? He had one bad decision/throw that ended in a pick-6, but he was pretty much on for the rest of the game.
     
  12. cbrad

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    I think Tua fell into a complacency trap with the Giants being so bad. That team has got to be one of the worst teams this year in the NFL. Not worried at all about Tua. He's spearheading one of the best offenses in the NFL, if not the best. It's not something an "average-ish" QB can do, like some here still believe.
     
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  13. Wilkimania

    Wilkimania Well-Known Member

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    Honestly that game was largely what we all asked for, a comfortable win. We could've all turned off after the 3rd finished and not missed much, won't be often we get to say that this season. Back to 1st in the AFC East. Job for the week done.
     
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  14. cbrad

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    I'm expecting another 10+ point differential win next week. That's what great teams can do.
     
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  15. Serpico Jones

    Serpico Jones Well-Known Member

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    Tua said the ball sailed on him. I personally think he couldn’t see over Connor Williams.
     
  16. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    HE's definitely played a lot better, which is saying something because he still had over 300 yards and over 100 passer rating. lol

    He does seem to press at times. He's expecting to score a TD on every drive. He pressed when he threw into triple coverage to Waddle that led to a tip and pick-6. (Should have been 1st at 1, but the refs decided that flagrant DPI is no longer a thing) He was off target on a few other throws (and his arm/hand was hit on the 2nd INT) but he still had over a 70% comp rate. He's a QB savant. If he learns to settle a little (something Josh Allen still hasn't learned how to do after 5+ seasons, BTW) he's going to be even better. Which is crazy to think about.
     
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  17. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    His hand hit Connor's helmet. Travis posted a close-up on his Twitter page.
     
  18. Wilkimania

    Wilkimania Well-Known Member

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    Broncos score which means Miami are currently the only AFC East time to be winning today.
     
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  19. mlb1399

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    Sometimes you gotta win games when you play sloppy. I’m glad we did it against NYG and not Philly or KC. We still won with a comfortable lead and completely dominated the LOS. I’ll take that
     
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  20. cbrad

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    btw.. even with today's "off" performance, Tua's rating after 5 games and 166 passing attempts is 111.9. Right now it's a race between Tua and Brock "can't play a bad game" Purdy for the top spot rating-wise.
     
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  21. texanphinatic

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    The Panthers might be even worse than the Giants fyi. And they are coming off a tough, physical game with Detroit. Take care of business. Maybe a bit of trap/look-ahead to it, but that's just a bad team. They lack weapons, explosiveness, speed and scoring on offense. OL is suspect. Rookie QB is playing like a rookie QB. Defensively they have a few dudes, but not enough to take over. They are getting worn out by the lack of offense.
     
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  22. Serpico Jones

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    It pays to have a wide open Tyreek Hill to throw to.
     
  23. cbrad

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    Yeah, but even great QBs have difficulty leading a #1 offense with a great surrounding cast. It's statistically extremely unlikely you can get similar results with just another average-ish QB. Tua doesn't have some physical skills some posters here like, but he (often) makes up for it with elite accuracy and decision-making speed. If he keeps up this level of production there will be no other viable conclusion than to say Tua himself is an elite QB. We're not there yet, but he's getting there.
     
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  24. Wilkimania

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    Tua has the most yards ever in the first 5 weeks of a season. I don't care if it is because of Cheetah, if he keeps it up for the entire year then we'll be competitive.
     
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  25. danmarino

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    All NFL receivers get open sometimes. Tyreek is about average, however, in regard to how much separation he gets/has on each target. That knock on Tua doesn't hold any water.
     
  26. TheHighExhaulted

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    Is Tyreek on the Dolphins? What's the problem? Shut up already.
     
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  27. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    There are literally 37 starting receivers (and another 8 tied with him) in the NFL that get more open, more often, than Tyreek. The length to which some of these Tua haters will go in order to make the QB of their team seem mediocre is just sad at this point. They're so upset that Tua is showing to be the better QB out of Allen, Burrow, and Herbert. They can't stand it and need to make up **** in order to feel better. lol...It's just more proof that this forum is filled with trolls. All forums have them, ignore is a great option.
     
  28. Silverphin

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    That, I did not know.
     
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  29. RGF

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    Don't get aggravated. Just take it where it comes from , laugh, and move on. They thrive on attention like little children.
     
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  30. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    One? Dude made a several poor decisions today. He throws into triple coveraged guys way too often, imo.
     
  31. TheHighExhaulted

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    What about quadruple coverage?
     
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  32. The_Dark_Knight

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    Putting the onus on you for this one Res.

    Of the times he’s thrown into triple coverage, how many were completions, incompletions, touchdowns and interceptions?

    Not busting your balls but if you’re going to complain about this, have to demonstrate it’s an issue.
     
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  33. RGF

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    Just trying to get under your skin, don't let them.
     
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  34. KeyFin

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    I think it was week 1, Tua threw a pick early on and just shrugged it off as well. We won the game convincingly. Now, some folks here might think it's a bad thing to laugh or shrug after throwing an INT, but that's actually showing maturity by realizing a mistake and getting right back into the groove. Rookies throw tantrums, veterans just move on. Mistakes are inevitable for all players.

    A few of Tua's throws today were over the top- like trying to hit Tyreek deep into quadruple coverage. The pick in the end zone was a ridiculously hard throw with a really tight angle, but that's a throw you want your QB to be confident in making. That's Tua's superpower, threading tight windows, and I am happy that he doesn't let mistakes rattle his confidence.

    The difference this season and any other season, of course, is the actual scoreboard. Mistakes aren't as critical when your team only punts once or twice a day. Heck, even our punter today...kicking a 20 yard punt...the announcers laughed about it and felt sorry for him because he almost never gets to do his job anymore. This is a team that's lethal enough to overcome a mistake or two and that's reason to celebrate...this is shaping up to be a pretty legendary offense.
     
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  35. Destroyer

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    Going t be hard to beat the chiefs and refs all at the same time. They just committed PI, Facemask and removing helmet all in one play.
     
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  36. Fishhead

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    Refs love the Chiefs
     
  37. Fishhead

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    What happened to Jefferson?
     
  38. Destroyer

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    Came up limping on a play non contact.
     
  39. Fishhead

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    Russ just fumbled the game to the Jets
     
  40. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    He had one horrible throw/decision that led to a pick-6. He had a few other throws that he missed, but nothing horrible or anything every other QB doesn't do every game. His 2nd INT was due to his hand hitting Connor's helmet, Waddle was open, it sailed due to him not being able to follow through, and ended up getting intercepted. I did see, on a few incompletions, that he had some guys open underneath and instead went for the HR. I've touched on it earlier in this thread, those are things he definitely has to learn from. A punt is OK sometimes.

    A QB with his efficiency (100+ passer rating) hasn't made "several poor' decisions.
     

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