Skylar to start this week Against Vikings

You're very pessimistic regarding Thompson- and possibly for good reason- but what did you already see to come to the conclusion he's not back-up worthy?
I mean, one emergency NFL start is hardly enough evidence. Time will tell if he's trash but I'm hardly there yet.

 

He's a low-round rookie. Even if he turns out to be a good backup, he isn't one yet.

 

What can we base that on ? I mean I'm not saying you're definitely wrong but how did you see enough to know this ?
Never practiced a full week with the first string offense til this week so I think I'll wait and see for sure.

 

Wait, there was a game on last night?

 

Let's stop that nonsense. Brady was a seventh round pick. No one expected him to be good and look where he is now. One SPOT emergency start isn't even enough to sample him on. Im rooting for him but that doesn't mean im not concerned. If Coach thinks he is good enough to be on his team let's see what a week of practice and a game plan around him will look like.

Maybe he will suck but we already know TUA isn't a long term answer and he's one more concussion away from the NFL barring him from ever playing again. So we are going to be looking for a new QB IMHO this offseason.

Skylar might not be the next anyone but he deserves a chance. Teddy isn't winning us anything I don't care what his history shows he isn't the same Teddy not does it look like he gives a damn about it.

 

We don't yet know Tua isn't a long term answer. I agree with your take on Skylar.. have to give him a chance. One game says nothing. Same with Tua. Give him the chance to start the majority of games this season and lead us to the playoffs. Can't just assume he's not durable enough as a starting QB.

I do agree though if Tua isn't available maybe 6+ games this season then we really need to look for a new QB next year even if we keep Tua.

 

Let's stop that nonsense. Skylar Thompson is not comparable to Tom Brady.

 

The point is you can count on one finger how many 6th, 7th round and undrafted quarterbacks actually make it in the NFL out of hundreds and hundreds.

 

Tom Brady - 6th rd.
Johnny Unitas - 9th rd.
Roger Staubach - 10th rd.
Matt Hasselbeck - 6th rd.
Bart Starr - 17th rd.
George Blanda - 12th rd.

Kurt Warner - undrafted
Warren Moon - undrafted

 

Are you proving my point or going against my point?

 

Same as any position. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen, and Skylar is already far ahead of most of those 6th, 7th, and undrafted QBs. How many of them started a game? How many even had good to decent pre-seasons? I am rooting for Skylar to prove himself to be a great backup and possible future trade bait. He has shown enough that both are still very possible. Look at the best backups we've had in the last 20 years. Matt Moore was undrafted. Fitzy was a 7th round pick. Teddy hasn't played much as a Dolphin, and I only mention him because of his pedigree, not his play as a Dolphin. So, I have the same bias I suppose.

For Skylar to be a starter/franchise... Needs show much better accuracy. Which seems like it is the toughest thing to improve. Which is also why those doubting Tua seem to be missing why he can be so very good. Right now the only thing holding Tua back is consistency, which should get better with experience and practice. And, when I write holding "him back", I mean from being one of the best in the game. He is already a high level starter.

 

...as well as not being able to get through one season without missing games due to injury.

 

Im still 90% behind the notion that a system makes a quarterback. Yes there are exceptions and guys than can handle any system, but I believe the mass majority of QB's will falter or Reign supreme based on the system they are placed in.

The trick is to find the QB for the system you are building.

 

I hope he goes out there and tears **** up this weekend. I hope he RIPS Minnesota with 4 TD scores and we beat their *** soundly with him at quarterback. After that, I hope everyone on here freaks out about it and it becomes super heated in here with lots of personal attacks. After that I hope BSPN starts their BS as well, all the Tua haters will rise up as one and start chanting. All of the remaining Tua supporters will go retreating back into a den of doubt that will haunt them internally while they continue fighting for Tua. Skylar Thompson will suddenly be battling Cooper Rush for the MVP of the league award this season. This would really bring us back, so this is what we should all hope that he does regardless of you feel about Tua, Herbert, or McDaniel? Is it Josh that's our coach? Randall? WTF....Of course Mike! Obviously I'm kidding, but damn....I really do hope he puts up like he did in the preseason. The kid has got some guts, I'll give him that. He's a football player first and he's going to do well for us I think. Lets hope anyway.

 

I feel the same way. He's a Dolphin. He's our starting QB. There's really nothing else to say- I hope he beats the league passing record in a single game and we win by 80.

He's raw, he doesn't know the system, and he played horrible in his 1st NFL start with no prep. We all know that. It's facts. But that has nothing to do with what he can do in game 2 with a week of practice with the 1's and good coaching. I'm hoping he lights it up something fierce!

 

The last twenty years of this team have taught me not to hope.

 

I love your optimism, but you just admitted everything as to why you shouldn't get excited.

He's rawer than raw.

He doesn't know the system.

He played terrible against the Jets.

One week of practice isn't going to change anything. Miami's defense needs to show up and show up hard. They need to be responsible for at least 14 points and give Thompson good field position. If they have to rely on Thompson shooting out with Cousins, you're gonna be disappointed.

This game is all on the defense.

 

Considering the circumstances, I think Skylar played well.

He's a first year, third string QB. He didn’t have any first string reps and no time to prepare. He was playing on a team without its two star CBs and without its high priced, big FA signing and supposed star LT protecting his blind side. The OL was a disaster. He also didn't have Tua nor Teddy on the sideline to give him advice and help.....and, at one point, he had the team down only two points in the fourth quarter. I'm not making it out to be more than it was, but when you consider the circumstances, what he did was actually kind of impressive.

 

I completely agree- he has every reason to not play well. I'll be rooting for the kid anyway though because that's what we do.

 

Thompson's play last week was good enough that the team should have scored 27 points. In his first start with zero retires with the first team. You guys make it seem like he was absolute dog ****.

 

He did nothing to excite me. He got the benefit of a couple ticky tack pass interference calls on poorly thrown balls and a couple of questionable 4th down calls by the Jets giving him manageable field position. Without a bad drop and missed field goal, he could have had the lead at one point but I'm going to attribute that to McDaniel adjusting and dumbing it down for a kid who clearly was uncomfortable playing. When he lost his armband he looked like a little boy lost in the mall.

But, I have to trust McDaniel that he will put him in a situation where he is not asked to do much. You're going to see a lot of screen passes, trick plays and possibly wildcat formations.

 

Yeah, I'm not saying I'm excited about him either. I just don't understand the response to his game. He legitimately led them to 27 points, even though in reality the TD was dropped and the FG was missed. That doesn't change his level of play, and what his play led to.

I'm not saying he's going to be Tom Brady.

 

We will lose bad if we go into trickery and screens.. the vikings fully expect that to be the case and will stack the box, run zero blitz.

Let him sling it.. you got tyreek and waddle open almost every other play. If he cant complete some passes with the separation those two create then youre not making it in the league

 

You know though…that’s how you can draw a pass interference call. A speedy receiver, a defender sprinting to keep up, ball thrown short, receiver slows to make the catch and the defender runs right in/through him thus, defensive pass interference.

I’m surprised this “tactic” hasn’t been intentionally implemented by all the teams in the league. Hell, I’d even practice it. Anything to move the ball down field

 

In addition, let’s scheme up a few easy routes over the middle to our 10 million dollar TE. The Vikes won’t be expecting that, since he hasn’t been a focal point so far this season.

 

I have a feeling we’re going to see a more concentrated effort to run the ball. Last week, Moestert rushed for over 100 yards. Typically, when you have a running back rush for over 100 yards, you win.

Until the defense’s implosion last week, we were on the cusp of pulling out a victory, despite Thompson getting little to no first team reps.

This week, I think we’ll see a better prepared offense.

 

That's more of an effect not a cause. Statistically the difference in rushing yards between winning and losing teams is (on average) almost completely in the 4th quarter. In other words, the team that has a lead late is rushing more to run out the clock. Very hard in today's game to win by centering the offense around the running game. Only a few teams can do that. Mostly it's a passing league.

It's true for the Dolphins too. We rushed an average of 64 yards per game for our 3 wins, and 111 yards per game in our 2 losses. So really we need to hope Skylar puts up big passing yardage. We have 2 elite WRs and if McDaniel can't figure out how to use them even with a 3rd string QB we're toast. We'll lose if we try to win this game by running the ball.

 

Does anyone have a reliable streaming service for the game this afternoon…other than signing up for NFL stream?