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Will Skylar get a shot?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Dorfdad, Oct 3, 2022.

  1. Dorfdad

    Dorfdad Well-Known Member

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    In light of the tua injury and the possibility that he they won’t allow him to play the next game do you think that in practice this week they get both back up quarterbacks a 50-50 split and see who does better?

    i’m really not excited about seeing Bridgewater out there he can make a couple of plays, but he also throws bad interceptions and just looks like he has no energy. I don’t feel he brings a Spark to any other team Skyler on the other hand while it was preseason made every play exciting there was an energy on that field and I just don’t see that with Teddy in the game so I’m wondering do the coaches give Skyler a shot and see if he can play a game?

    I definitely believe that they keep him as the number to next year and get rid of bridgewater number one because of costs but number two because he’ll be a year more into the system. I think they like the guy I just think they don’t believe he has enough experience yet, but some of these softer games it may be beneficial to throw them in and see if we can get into some productivity. If not, we can always pull him and put Teddy in.
     
  2. Unlucky 13

    Unlucky 13 Team Raheem Club Member

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    If Tua is out a short time and Teddy doesn't completely implode or get injured, then I think Skylar stays on the bench. I don't believe much in Bridgewater, but hopefully the team is able to do enough around him to beat some teams that we would otherwise be favored against over the next few weeks.

    If Tua were out for the year, then I think Skylar would get a shot, since Teddy wouldn't be leading them very far.
     
  3. Springveldt

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    I think the only way Skylar will see the field is if Teddy gets injured. We just have to hope Teddy doesn't crap the bed over the next month or so until Tua can come back.
     
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  4. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    Barring injury, no chance. We are in the business of making the playoffs now, not developing project backup quarterbacks.
     
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  5. The_Dark_Knight

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    My feelings on Bridgewater and Thompson have been made abundantly clear. Based on my observations, Bridgewater is straight up garbage.

    I know preseason is preseason. You’re not playing against top tiered starters. I get it, but when you have Bridgewater and Thompson both playing under the exact same circumstances, the one that’s considered a great backup should be shredding the opposing defenses, not the in-tested rookie. Sadly, Thompson produced and Bridgewater didn’t.

    I would much rather have Thompson instead of Bridgewater but that’s not going to happen. Teddy will get the start. The only way I see Thompson getting a shot is if Bridgewater craps the bed continuously.

    Mike Tomlin had no issue benching the ineffective Mitch Trubisky during yesterday’s game against the Jets. I would to think if Bridgewater was equally ineffective, he’d give Thompson a look, especially against the Jets.
     
  6. Fishhead

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    If you think Teddy is uninterested now, wait until you ask him to back up and/or relieve a seventh round draft pick.
     
  7. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    You can't look into the pre-season for a guy like Bridgewater. He's a proven veteran he had nothing to prove in those games.

    The Steelers aren't going anywhere. It was time for them to develop their top draft pick.

    The Dolphins are trying to make the playoffs. Bridgewater has played and won games in the league before. He's not going to lose a game for you. With a full week and a half preparation he will be fine.

    Thompson is a 7th round project. He's not a prospect. To hand the reigns to a good football team in a complicated offense is not gonna work.

    Look at Zappe yesterday. He's probably a way better prospect than Thompson and Belichick was scared to put the ball in his hands. This is the real deal now, he's not playing against guys bagging groceries right now.
     
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  8. mooseguts

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    Only if he goes to a bar.
     
  9. KeyFin

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    I would like for Skylar to get a chance sometime this season, but the smart move is to start the veteran until he proves that he can't win the game. With Waddle, Tyreek, Gisecki, and our RB stable, I think any QB can be effective in this offense if they can deliver the ball on time. So my bigger worry isn't who that QB is....it's just that one or the other actually does it.
     
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  10. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    I give it a 70% chance Skylar will start a game this season.
     
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  11. Unlucky 13

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    Due to both Tua and Teddy being hurt? Or due to Teddy playing like crap?
     
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  12. tirty8

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    I think that this is exposing a side to the coaching/GM world that we seldom see. Anyone who has been in the coaching industry have been fired or know someone who has been fired. If they have any sense of self-awareness, they will pick up on what gets you fired. More often than not, owners really do not have expertise in football, but they can see obvious instances of a coach costing a team the game. This is the stuff that gets coaches fired. Ever see a coach get overly conservative??? Go for two and the win? Fans want it, and the coach probably does too. The only difference is that coach will be judged by his win-loss record at the end of the season, and fans will not.

    I think that this happening right now. Skylar threw a major wrinkle into Miami's plans. For all intents and purposes, he was supposed to be a scout team QB. Now that he balled out, a lot of people, myself included, think he is better. Grier paid up for Teddy in case Tua got hurt. Ross, whenever he returns from his suspension, is obviously gonna ask, "Why are we paying Teddy all that money if we are not gonna use him?" If you start Skylar, and you lose, the media is gonna go after you. Talking heads will proclaim, "Teddy Bridgewater wins that game, etc.," and this is the reason as to why Teddy got the nod.

    If Teddy goes out there and loses, everyone gets a pass. Nobody says anything, and the Phins continue to get good press.
     
  13. KeyFin

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    I didn't even think about that aspect- Ross is not in the building and I assume Grier is calling the shots (you wouldn't think it would be Beal or another exec). Ross would likely say to start the rookie like he did with Tua, Rosen, etc.
     
  14. Vertical Limit

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    I think if Tua gets concussed one more time this season, hes going to be shelved for the remainder of the season. And theyre going to be curious about Skylar especially if the season gets away from us. I dont think we should feel very confident in Teddy. Hes a solid backup, but hes not leading this team to a playoffs. Chances are we go below slightly below .500 with him guiding this team. Whats the point of that, may as well try the rookie that looked very good in preseason.
     
  15. cbrad

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    McDaniel already has cred. He's shown what Tua can do in a way Flores couldn't. Tua played like he was franchise QB material. So McDaniel is not getting fired after season 1 if Tua is out no matter who he starts, Bridgewater or Thompson.

    However, Bridgewater has proven he's a 50% win% QB over a long time. He hurt our chances to win against Cinci too. So starting Bridgewater for anything more than a small number of games is basically giving up on the playoffs. There's far greater upside to starting Thompson because you don't know with him. The cost/benefit analysis here seen from a HC perspective should really be clear: start Thompson unless you think Tua will be back in 2-3 weeks.
     
  16. jdallen1222

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    Im sure Ross still has Grier’s ear during this “exile”
     
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  17. Unlucky 13

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    If Tua gets another concussion, he's probably done with Miami period. I agree that if that happens, all bets are off and the season is in the toilet, so why not play Skylar instead of Teddy. 2023 would likely be really ugly then though, as we're up against the cap and unable to sign anyone of a satisfactory quality to replace Tua. So I'd rather not go there until we have to.
     
  18. TheHighExhaulted

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    McDaniel isn't going up to a respected veteran like Bridgewater and saying, you know what our season is probably over with you so I'm gonna put in the seventh round draft pick next week. Imagine what Tyreek Hill's response would be. Imagine what the vets response would be. The coach would lose the locker room in a minute.

    Unless Miami is out of playoff contention or Bridgewater gets injured, Thompson is not playing.
     
  19. tirty8

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    I think that you are missing my point.

    These coaches, McDaniel probably even to a higher extent, are incredibly detail oriented. Does he think he is getting fired next week? Probably not. Does he probably understand that at some time in his tenure, people will call for his job? Probably so. He knows people look at records as barometers, and they will like to point their finger at certain moments.

    Do I think McDaniel could be out of a job next year? As crazy as it sounds, it is actually possible.

    We know Ross was trying to get Sean Payton. Payton, after seeing Tua with McDaniel, recently said in an interview that one of the teams that he would like to go to is Miami.

    I cannot stress enough how much I think Ross is inept. If McDaniel does not meet whatever standard he has in his mind, I could see him saying, "Sean Payton wins the Super Bowl with this team" and making the move. He loves the splash, and it sounded like he had a massive offer in place for Payton.

    All of this information is public knowledge, and it is completely natural for McDaniel to at least think about this.
     
  20. cbrad

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    You don't know that. You also don't know how they look in practice. If Thompson is actually outperforming Bridgewater in practice you're not getting much heat from the players.

    Either way, coaches are judged on W/L record. Bridgewater gives you 50/50. Question is do you think Thompson might do better based on what you see in practice. Only McDaniel can know that. Nothing is set in stone here like you're making it out to be.
     
  21. cbrad

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    No I understood you the first time. What I think you're missing is that Ross has been searching for a franchise QB for a long time. What Tua showed last few games is the first time since Marino we've had a potential franchise QB (still to be determined). Only exception was one year with Pennington but he was at the tail end of his career.

    There's no way that performance by Tua is being lost on Ross. There's also no way Ross is ignoring how we went 3-0 with McDaniel, a 1st time HC, propelling the perception of Miami in the sports media to a potential SB contender. Ross knows the consequences of losing a starting QB. He's not expecting the coach to win with a backup.

    McDaniel can easily go to Ross and tell him he's seen Thompson potentially be a very good QB in practice and in preseason, and that if Tua doesn't come back it would be prudent to give him NFL experience. This isn't a difficult sell.
     
  22. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    Yes, it is. Bridgewater is starting.
     
  23. Phin McCool

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    I totally get what people have said on both sides of the argument. I don't have any faith in Bridgewater, I must admit but people have put up good arguments as to why he should be starting. I'm in the Skylar camp and just in case people have forgotten how he looked in pre-season, watch this. There's three throws on there that I just don't see Teddy getting close to making. Whether he starts some games or doesn't, you have to admit the kid has talent.

     
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  24. Rick 1966

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    May as well start him now, but they won't. They'll wait until we're officially out of the playoff hunt, which should be around the end of November.
     
  25. Dan S

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    Reid Sinnet was signed today. Does that mean they don't think Skylar is ready (if needed) or is it just a depth signing?
     
  26. StaleTacos

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    Hell, there's throws on there Tua can't make.
     
  27. TheHighExhaulted

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    Practice field arm.
     
  28. Serpico Jones

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    Depth signing. Also means Tua probably won’t be back any time soon.
     
  29. Serpico Jones

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    Bruce Beal is no longer involved with the Miami Dolphins. He was removed as owner in waiting this summer.
     
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  30. Unlucky 13

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    Have you looked at our schedule? The next seven weeks are remarkably light. If we were fully healthy, we'd be the clear favorite in every one. The point that you referenced, the end of November, is actually when it gets a whole lot harder, and we have five tough games in a row that could knock us out.
     
  31. TheHighExhaulted

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    No. Since Thompson is now the primary backup he will be taking reps with Bridgewater. They need another arm for scout team.
     
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  32. Two Tacos

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    Signed to the practice squad.
     
  33. Vertical Limit

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    He will likely get cut pretty fast when tua returns… but just throwing this out there… the letters IR may come up in the coming days..
     
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  34. Rick 1966

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    I don't believe in Bridgewater and I don't think we can win with him.
     
  35. Unlucky 13

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    I certainly don't think that we'll win any games because of Teddy. But given the level of our opponents, I would think that even if Tua was out for the season, we should go no worse than 4-3 through November. The QB isn't all that matters, and he can drive the bus if the run game can get going.
     
  36. Rick 1966

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    Our run game has sucked and I see no reason to think it will suck less just because we need it more. I will be very surprised if we win more than four more games this season if Tua is out for the rest of the year and Bridgewater starts.
     
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  37. Ronnie Bass

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    I'm in the same boat, ZERO confidence in Bridgewater to win us any games, if we do it will be in spite of him. This really sucks.
     
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  38. Rick 1966

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    Yep. Tua wasn't a superstar, but he was a serviceable QB who could throw an accurate ball to our very fast WRs. Bridgewater has never shown that sort of accuracy even at his best. And if Tua does come back this season, he'll be on a very short leash health-wise. This whole thing is likely the end of his tenure with the Dolphins.
     
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  39. Serpico Jones

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    Agreed.
     
  40. tirty8

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    Actually he can't. Our owner is suspended which furthers my point to his ineptitude.
     

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