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Miami F1

Discussion in 'Other Sports Forum' started by Galant, Sep 23, 2021.

  1. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity

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    A lot of excitement for what's a really boring sport.

    I suppose people who go to the events end up having a really good time, but it's hardly related to the sport itself. I mean, they're just going sit in a certain spot to watch some blurs fly by, sounding like mosquitos, once every while.

    Ah well. To each their own.
     
  2. Tone_E

    Tone_E Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    One thing most people don't understand about the F1 is the global grandeur and prestige of it all.

    That and it isn't so boring if you follow intra team politics, mid-field battles, and championship/constructors title fights. There is a lot to get excited for between races even though some races are terribly boring admittedly. Look at Monaco. Impossible to pass there, it is like a parade. But Monaco is Monaco because of the spectacle of it all.

    F1 in Miami is excellent for the city and the sport IMO. Excellent work indeed by Garfinkle.
     
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  3. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    interesting looking track... hope there's plenty of passing
     
  4. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity

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    Precisely. The sporting event itself is boring. The footage is boring. You have to find meaning and interest elsewhere to make it interesting. Some people can and do find it. I have a good friend who loves it. I've tried multiple times to make that connection but I'm just not interested in engines and mechanics, I find the races overly long and boring to watch, and the very notion of having cars that aren't equal such that some teams just don't stand a chance bugs me. That makes it more about the engineering than the driving, but engineering isn't something I can watch and enjoy.

    Apparently there are even long time F1 fans who say the sport today is a shadow of its former self and needs reform. I've no idea if it was more interesting to watch then, I'm sure it could be. Done right, the fastest racers on earth speeding around tracks should be a no-brainer for entertainment. Evidently, it's just not done right.
     
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    A few races may be boring due to track design but that is it. The F1 season evolves each week as teams bring in new upgrades, different aero packages suited for different tracks, etc. I hear you about F1 being dominated by one or two teams, but I think that is where the beauty of the sport lies. It rewards ingenuity, development, and innovation amidst a bulletproof set of regulations. And yet teams still find loopholes in the rules that eventually get amended on the spot or all other teams start to copy the idea. With that, teams with the largest budget have always had the advantage and usually dominated. The governing body (FIA) recognized this as an issue with the sport and have since implemented budget caps (salary, engineering, etc.) and have also limited engineering resources (wind tunnel testing, CFD simulations, etc.) based on team position. The lower the team ranking the more wind tunnel time and CFD simulation time is available to try to bridge the gap to the leaders. The FIA wants to encourage new teams to enter but competing with Merc and Ferrari budgets is was too dissuading, so measures had to be taken.

    Aside from that F1 cars are engineering marvels that are ever evolving. Take a look at non-restricted LMP cars, with no rules or regulations whatsoever. They're still not faster than heavily regulated V6 turbo hybrid F1 cars. Every year the FIA tries to make them slower with less downforce to improve racing (less dirty air) and increase safety, but low and behold the F1 engineers regain that downforce with aero designs, find ways to tweak smaller and smaller engines to output the same horsepower, etc.

    People who think F1 is a shadow of its former self forgot what the sport really is about. It isn't about taking cookie cutter cars that are all identical and painting them with different sponsors and colors. The heart of F1 is the very engineering and varying designs that created what people today dislike about the sport. Mercedes and Hamilton dominance isn't by accident. They have the best engineers and the best driver in the world. Their dominance is what is turning people off from the sport - imagine NE Pats winning every SB (wait, that happened too). In fact, the sport is transcending into something SO FAR away from where it used to be back in the day, that some argue the very spirit and essence of F1 is being diminished or by limiting teams' engineering and cost spending. For the betterment of the sport I have to agree with the new measures and budget caps being implemented. It is the only way that new teams will enter the sport, and the F1 can use a few more that. I am hoping Audi and Porsche join as factory teams.

    Ultimately to each their own. I do understand both sides to the F1 debate though.
     
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  6. Galant

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    How much of what you wrote can someone sit down and watch on a Sunday?

    That's the point. People enjoy this whole world, the televised racing event itself is long and mostly uneventful.
     
  7. Tone_E

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    I disagree. I find the races exciting and enjoyable, with a few exceptions. Similar to golf. Ask a non-golfer to watch golf and they'll tell you the same thing, crazy boring. To each their own.
     
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    I rarely watch Nascar anymore, just the super speedways (Daytona and Talladega mostly). But even then I'm a glutton for punishment because I hate restricter plate racing (RPR). Why am I bringing this up? Well, I think there's a correlation there between F1 and Nascar. The powers that be try to make the racing more exciting... but in the end can ruin the moral of the story. That is to go the fastest under the safest measures possible within the rules. RPR, I believe, actually made the super speedways less safe. I think Dale Earnhardt would be alive had RPR not been implemented. Talk about ironies.
     
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