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Parsons and Oweh - Move!

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Galant, Mar 25, 2021.

  1. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity

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  2. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    I would love to have a very athletic OLB/DE
     
  3. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity

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  4. resnor

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    That's crazy.
     
  5. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity

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    I've heard bits and pieces about them but haven't paid close attention - does anyone know if they can actually 'play' DE or are they just freak athletes?
     
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  6. mlb1399

    mlb1399 Well-Known Member

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    Ok, Parsons just jumped into that 3 spot for me along with Sewell and Chase. That’s blazing fast
     
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  7. Unlucky 13

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    Holy cow. If Oweh is there at #18, I'm definately down with that.
     
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  8. Striking

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    Reminded me of the line about drafting baseball players who look good in a uniform yet can't play
     
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  9. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    Everything I heard about Parsons was that he would be one of the top players in the draft but he is kind of a douchebag.
     
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  10. Pennington's Limp Arm

    Pennington's Limp Arm Well-Known Member

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    40 times are ‘Interesting’ and can be a positive in confirming prior beliefs. (Ie dude looks fast on tape)

    But definitely not a tool to use to move guys up and down your board! That’s how teams end up picking Ruggs in front of Lamb and Jefferson.
    Even less important for an in the box defender

    Should be noted only 10 players registered 10+ sacks last year.
    Only one of them ran better than 4.6 at the combine. (Riddick 4.52)
     
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  11. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    This is too early. Careers are more about the rookie year.
     
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  12. Pennington's Limp Arm

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    It goes beyond rookie years..

    I was more referring to their proven alpha elite college production pre draft. Compared to Ruggs who never checked those boxes. (But did have a flashy 40)
     
  13. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    Those are some crazy fast 38 yard dashes coming out of Penn State.
     
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  14. Deus ex dolphin

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    Yeah, I hear 'very immature' thrown about. Didn't Miami just cut a young first rounder like that? I'd take a chance on Parsons at #36, but I won't risk a first rounder on him. Hmm, make that, take a chance at #50 instead.
     
  15. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    There are no first-rounders like the one that the Dolphins just cut.
     
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  16. mlb1399

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    Well, technically he “was” a first rounder but his current value was the difference between a 7th rounder this year and next year. Based on the trade value chart, that’s somewhere around 1/200th of the 1st pick in the draft.

    As far as Parsons, who’s saying it? Are they substantiated or rumors? Dan Marino had drug rumors going into the draft to plummet his draft position. Not saying it’s not true because it could be.

    All I know is if you’re not in the market for a QB, a top 5 pick usually comes down to the best pass rusher or OT. With his size and athleticism, he could very well be the best pass rusher in this draft. Even if some of those rumors are true, teams will certainly take a shot well above #36.

    But I think your point is character counts which I completely agree on. I just don’t know how factually true those rumors are.
     
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  17. Deus ex dolphin

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    I've heard it mentioned on a podcast, but no clear source given, so it could all be bogus. Miami may need to send Parsons the bong mask Tunsil left in his locker.....
     
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  18. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity

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    On Parsons:
    https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article250227215.html


    "Micah Parsons was born to play in Brian Flores’ defense.

    The Penn State linebacker is a sideline-to-sideline wrecking ball who can line up at three different positions.

    With representatives of the Miami Dolphins on-hand to get a close look, Parsons dazzled at his pro day Thursday, clocking a sub 4.4-second 40, putting up 19 bench-press reps and jumping 34 inches in the vertical leap at 6-3, 246.


    Put another way, he reminded everyone just how special he is as an athlete, in case they forgot during his football sabbatical. Parsons won the Butkus-Fitzgerald Award as the Big Ten’s linebacker of the year and was a consensus All-American in 2019 before opting out the following season due to COVID-19.

    That decision would end his college career; he declared for the draft and spent the past six months preparing for it."

    "The only problem to this plan: third is probably too high to take Parsons, and 18th might be too low."

    "If the Dolphins stay put at 3, the prevailing belief is they will take the highest-rated skill position player on their board."

    "That means the Dolphins taking a defensive player with their first pick cannot be ruled out — but only if they trade down. Parsons would be a huge stretch at 3, but not so much at 8 or 9 — picks belonging to quarterback-needy Carolina and Denver."

    "There’s one other factor that could work in Miami’s favor: Parsons’ reputation isn’t pristine either.

    Perhaps they could get a top-5 talent with the 18th overall pick. It’s not that far-fetched of an idea.

    NFL.com’s Lance Zierlein has Parsons falling all the way to 29th in his latest mock draft over “character concerns,” which likely alludes to Parsons’ inclusion in a 2020 university report regarding a Title IX inquiry into the Nittany Lions program...

    Former defensive back Isaiah Humphries accused Parsons and others of sexual harassment, hazing and violence, including choking.

    Parsons also had to transfer from one Harrisburg, Pa., area school to another after being accused, in the words of his father in 2016, of “inciting a riot.”

    “Obviously, people had some concerns about things that had happened,” Parsons said. “But at the end of the day, I believe that I was a kid. I was 17-18. We all made mistakes when we were 17-18. I’m not going to let it control or dictate the person I am now. I’m not going to let something that happened four years ago dictate who I’m becoming and the father I want to be.

    “Everyone learns and grows. I’m pretty sure none of you are making the same mistakes you made when you were 17 or 18 or even 25,” he continued. “If someone is going to judge me over that, then I would rather not be in their program. I know the type of person I’m becoming. I know the type of father I’m becoming. That’s all that matters to me. Anybody who is willing to accept my wrongs when I was wrong and my rights when I was right, I’m ready to give them my all. But if it’s going to come down to something I did in high school, I can only control what I can control moving forward. That’s how I feel about it.”

    The Dolphins of course will investigate all of these incidents (if they haven’t already). As an organization, they will decide whether Parsons truly has grown up in the years since.

    But Flores has repeatedly shown a willingness to give troubled players a second chance and a fresh start in Miami. Parsons’ unicorn ability might convince the Dolphins to take on another reclamation project."
     
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  19. mlb1399

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    This just continues to reinforce my belief that we need to trade 4-7 spots, even if we don't get exact trade value. At east a couple players between Pitts, Smith, Parsons all should be there in the be there in the back half of the top 10 and it would be great to pick up some extra 2nd/3rd picks as well.
     

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