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Fitz to retire

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Rick 1966, Mar 5, 2021.

  1. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    John Clayton is saying Fitz is going to retire.
     
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  2. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    If true, this is the 10th time nobody wanted him. But here he was Dan Marino to fans.
     
  3. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    I believe he said the Broncos were interested in him, but Fitz had decided to hang it up.
     
  4. 305

    305 Brawndo Club Member

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    Get off my lawn.
    Make him the 3rd OC
     
  5. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    If we are gonna stick with Tua... bring in Alex Smith... we need some veteran presence behind Tua.
     
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  6. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    We could call them the Catastrophic Injury Recovery Bros.
     
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  7. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    Good for him, go play with all them babies and grandbabies while you can. Loved watching him play. For me he was Brett Favre on a bunch of ish teams.
    I don't think he has any desire to coach, I would welcome him to the Phins in any capacity. I would love to see him as a talking head on NFL network or some such also but if I was him, I would have a kid in one hand and a beer in the other, interchangeable with a fishing pole and mama ta-ta's depending on the hour.
    Thanks for the memories Fitz!
     
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  8. Unlucky 13

    Unlucky 13 Team Raheem Club Member

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    Was this on TV? I don't see it anywhere, including Clayton's twitter acct.
     
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  9. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    It was on TV, but I did see a headline a little bit ago. Trying to find it.
     
  10. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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  11. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    The stories I caught this morning say that he's "likely to retire." So nothing official yet, but good for him if he decides to hang up the cleats. Hopefully he realizes that he has nothing left to prove.
     
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  12. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/es...ay-night-football-01f075d6qdej?utm_source=RSS

    It's still unclear whether Fitzpatrick is going to retire and it's unclear whether he would want to join the broadcasting world after he's done playing. But if he is calling it quits, ESPN should be the first organization to call him up and offer him a job. He has everything they need to be their lead analyst and, as he did as a player, would likely create some more Fitzmagic in the booth if given the chance.

    THATS WHAT I SAID!
     
  13. Dorfdad

    Dorfdad Well-Known Member

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    Why would we not bring him back at a reduced pay as a backup? He seems to enjoy the game still and we could use him to help TUA still!!
     
  14. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    It's Tua's team now.

    Fitzpatrick still thinks he's a starter. Obviously not since nobody wants him. Again.

    He doesn't want to teach Tua and Tua doesn't want him breathing down his neck.

    Just retire and get a gig where you can do silly games and interviews and look goofy with your dumb beard.
     
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  15. Ronnie Bass

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    He'll be back, maybe not with us but some team is going to be in a QB jam and he's going to be on the top of the list. My guess based on his personality there won't be much arm twisting.

    The only thing I could see keeping him from coming back is if some network wants to give him a crack in the TV booth, again with his personality and also charisma and smarts, he might be a natural like Romo.
     
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  16. OwesOwn614

    OwesOwn614 Well-Known Member

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  17. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    Could we change the title of this thread then since it's fake news?
     
  18. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    If thats the case we need to bring him back if Tua is the starter... i do not feel good about Tua and no experience behind him. It can become a very ugly and unwatchable season real quick should Tua go out with injury or doesnt take the next step (or regresses)
     
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  19. The G Man

    The G Man Git 'r doooonnne!!!

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    I agree. Hopefully he will be back with the 'Phins this year, assuming he doesn't get a starters gig somewhere else.
     
  20. Unlucky 13

    Unlucky 13 Team Raheem Club Member

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    I absolutely do not want him back in 2021. If Tua is still the starter (assuming that we don't trade for Watson) whoever the backup QB is needs to be the clear backup, and not someone fans will call for when Tua has troubles. Fitz has way too much of a fan group with the Dolphins.
     
  21. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    Fitzpatrick cried when he got benched and proceeded to divide the locker room.

    Can't have that again.

    It's ride or die with Tua. Bring in a different veteran if they want to go that route.

    I agree there shouldn't be anyone behind Tua that could challenge him for the job or for fans to beg for to come in once Tua throws one interception.
     
  22. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    I disagree. You have a depth chart so the next man up is always ready to start. You're basically saying to get rid of Fitz because he's too much competition for Tua...and that's a very good problem to have. I'd be fine drafting another rookie to backup Tua or bringing in a veteran, but if that person isn't going to challenge Tua then they don't belong in the building.

    Besides, fans are going to complain regardless...that's just noise that doesn't mean anything.
     
  23. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    Yes, just like the Chiefs brought in Chad Henne to challenge Pat Mahomes in 2018. :001_rolleyes:

    And, before you say "But it's Pat Mahomes!", there were players on the Chiefs who thought that he couldn't play in the NFL before the 2018 season.
     
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  24. KeyFin

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    Before I'd say "It's Pat Mahommes", I'd point out that Chad Henne and Matt Moore both won all their games when Mahommes was hurt across the past 3 seasons. Maybe they weren't challenging him for the starting role, but they showed up and stepped up whenever necessary.
     
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  25. TheHighExhaulted

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    You said they need to bring in a veteran to challenge Tua for the job when you should have said they need to bring in a veteran who will take a backseat that can win a game in a spot start.

    Fitzpatrick already proved he won't take a backseat.

    Andy Reid stuck to his guy with minimal distraction and it paid off. The same needs to happen with Tua and the Dolphins.
     
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  26. Unlucky 13

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    I agree. Unless everyone is unproven with no expectations and pedegree, I'm pretty firmly opposed to competing at the qb spot. The man needs to be the man, and if he's young he might need the team to do him a favor with that.
     
  27. KeyFin

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    I think you're confused here- every QB wants to start, and they're playing to get a chance at that starting role.

    Just look at Tannehill- he was told outright that he was the backup. Yet he still prepped daily like he was the starter and a year later, their "starter" Mariota was off the roster and it was RT's team. Rosen had the exact same experience two years ago; Fitz struggled, Rosen was turned loose and he couldn't get the job done. You'd better believe though that both Rosen and Tannehill entered the building expecting to be the starter someday. It was their play on the field that led to two different paths.

    I want Tua to be the guy, I really do. But that doesn't mean we don't need to have a QB2 that's ready to take the field at any given time. That's football and it applies to every position at every level- you prep like you're the starter this Sunday. If that makes Tua nervous then too bad...it's his job to keep that QB2 on the bench.
     
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  28. TheHighExhaulted

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    Do you really think Blaine Gabbert was practicing to beat out Tom Brady for the starting job this year? Do you think Tom Brady was worried about Blaine Gabbert taking his job?

    There's many other examples.

    Don't be naive.
     
  29. TheHighExhaulted

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    Reminds me of the old saying...

    If you have two quarterbacks, you have none.
     
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  30. btfu149

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    I really hate the narrative that we should get a mediocre backup like Brian Hoyer as to not threaten Tua. If Tua is threatened by Fitzmagic or Alex Smith he is not the answer anyways
     
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  31. OwesOwn614

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    Yeah, we need to give competition to Tua, not the other way around. He rose up and took the job away from Jalen Hurts, so he's not afraid to fight a strong player for his on-field reps. And if the other player takes his job, then so be it. I'm huge on Tua in South Beach but it's contrary to proper thinking to believe it's in the team's best interests (or his) to basically back him up with Arena League castoffs. Although I don't want to draft a QB at #3, I'd be okay with it if we did. I'd prefer we draft whoever slides into the 3rd round because somebody always does. Develop that player with the honest chance to win the job next year or beyond and let the best man win.
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  32. The G Man

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    100%.
     
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  33. Vertical Limit

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    I dont care who we sign, alex smith, fitzpatrick, cam newton... we need experience behind Tua... we need to see results that show that this team is rising... a 7-9 or 8-8 season is a step backwards. Next year has to be playoffs and whether Tua takes that step forward or not, we shouldnt let a lone player make or break our season. And sad to say but Tua’s play next season will play a huge role on whether we do take that step forward.
     
  34. TheHighExhaulted

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    The success of this team and franchise going forward is going to hinge on whether Tua takes the next step or not. He needs to know this is his team. Having a veteran backing him up is going to do nothing except cause controversy by the media if Tua starts off slow.

    Cam Newton, Alex Smith, Ryan Fitzpatrick aren't making this team a playoff team if Tua doesn't succeed.

    Give Tua the keys to the franchise. They have a lot invested in him. Time to see if he's the answer.
     
  35. OwesOwn614

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    We need to get the best backup for Tua that we can afford. If that means we sign a veteran who can provide competition or draft and develop a rookie, so be it. If Tua's looking over his shoulder and it affects his performance, he's not The Guy. If the player backing him up is that close to him in performance, we need to trade Tua, start his backup and try to obtain a QB who is better than both. I believe in the kid and think that if he's pushed, he'll play better. But he needs competition more than he needs comfort IMO.
     
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  36. Irishman

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    Our teams offensive future is like any other NFL teams. It is tied to the performance of the offensive line.

    Without a pretty good OL you won't be reliably able to score for a variety of reasons:

    1) You will allow more sacks, increasing the probability of injury!
    1a) No QB in the history of the NFL could run at all or throw with any effectiveness while on their back!
    2) If you can protect the passer for a reasonable period of time (2 - 5 seconds), you won't be successful throwing the ball.
    3) If you can't open holes for your running game, it becomes predictable and thereby, limited.
    4) The teams kicking game is also hampered by lack of protection for a punter or a place kicker.

    Like the old song says, (….it's one, two three strikes then your out …). Wrong sport but a very accurate anomaly.

    Don't believe me?

    Then quit the whining when we are forced to go three and out time after time after time!!!!!!!

    GET US AN EFFECTIVE OFFESIVE LINE, not a line whose play is demonstratively offensive i.e. it stinks.
     
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  37. Deus ex dolphin

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    It's a tough call when it comes to a backup QB. If your starter goes down for the season, then I'd rather just lose a lot of games and have a good draft spot. If your starter goes down for 2-4 games though? Then I want a guy who can win at least half his games played and keep the team afloat until the starter returns.

    It does concern me; the idea that Tua needs to be given his starting spot and not have to fight for it. Tua needs to be mentally tough enough to deal with the crowd chanting for the backup QB -if that happens. That said, Fitzmagic will probably end up starting for the Bears or something this season. I wish him well, he gave us some fun moments.
     
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  38. Irishman

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    I see your point, I just don't agree.

    I want to continue to win, even if it's at a lower percentage. We can always draft a QB in any draft. No reason to wait for the next draft to be able to win. Just my two cents.
     
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  39. Finatik

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    From PFT:
    Flores said today that the door is very much open to Fitzpatrick returning to Miami this season. “We would love to have him back,” Flores said. Realistically, it’s hard to believe Fitzpatrick would want to return to Miami. He was disappointed to lose the starting job to Tagovailoa, and he’s surely prefer to go somewhere where he would have an opportunity to start.

    But if he shops himself around in free agency and can’t find a team that’s willing to give him that opportunity, perhaps he would return to Miami. If he does, he’d be returning as the backup — but if Tagovailoa were to struggle, Fitzpatrick could find himself back on the field for the Dolphins.
     
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