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Thoughts on benching Tua?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by jdallen1222, Nov 22, 2020.

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  1. cbrad

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    You can't think of a worse human being than Tua? So Hitler wasn't a worse human being than Tua?

    You know, in another thread I pointed out you had multiple posts showing this visceral hatred for Tua right after we drafted him, and attacked posters thinking otherwise. You said you had changed since then and that it wasn't fair to bring that up.

    But you've gone back to that now repeatedly, albeit without the personal attacks on other posters, and also said you won't support this team if Tua is the QB. So this is who you are. It's not an accident you're saying this.

    As far as his religion, I'm about the least religious person you'll find, but I have no problem getting along with religion people. Decreasing the influence of religion has less to do with hating religion people than increasing their dependency on problem solving methodologies that are evidence based instead of faith based. For example, there's no other viable method for the Navy to develop a quieter submarine than through science. Religion is useless there. And statistics in the US (historically a bit of an outlier in terms of religiosity among advanced nations) show continued decrease in religiosity since the end of the Cold War, and also since 9-11.

    Be careful with your hatred. It can lead to the exact opposite result from what you'd wish.
     
  2. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    Russell Wilson is clearly the exception to every QB rule in the history of the NFL. He is not a valid example unless you're discussing a freak of nature.
     
  3. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    Clearly it is true otherwise every team in the NFL would follow the Seattle blueprint.
    You really need to quit with the personal attacks. Tua Tagovailoa has done nothing to you personally to wish his death.

    I guess you’re also going to wish for my death...or RevRick’s death as well?

    Tua has never once pressed his religious views on you. Live and let live
     
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  4. mlb1399

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    What does what happened under Bill Parcells 13 years ago have to do with Grier and Flores?
     
  5. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    Sigh. You can't actually be serious, can you? So, every season, you wipe your memory of the past like a discarded hard drive and never use the decisions and philosophies you've seen before as any sort of guide? That's how you roll?
     
  6. JJ_79

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    Jesus Alex, get a grip... Give Jesusboy a chance and bottle up your hatred (what did he do to you?), you can unleash it if he really stinks it up bad next year or doesn't improve at all unless you got Tua-Tourette-Syndrome...
     
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  7. mlb1399

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    You answered a question with questions and insults. Lol, ok. If we’re going to play this game, your response answered my conclusion that you really have no idea what you’re talking about, are completely unrealistic and literally have no idea how organizational leadership works.

    I would attempt to engage in this conversation but there’s no point in wasting my time. Have a good day sir.
     
  8. cbrad

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    Look around the NFL. Tons of teams take their QB before they have an OL in place. So suggesting that NFL teams are following OL first QB second strategy is simply false. And Seattle isn't the only SB winning team with a bad OL. You remember how much Eli had to maneuver in order to win the SB in both 2007 and 2011?

    There are many QB's where you can see they're elite or very good with a bad OL. Rodgers hasn't always had a solid OL. And look at Watson in Houston. It's amazing what he's been able to do with a bad OL. There's an entire spectrum of how well QB's play with a bad OL. It's not Wilson vs. everyone else.
     
  9. resnor

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    That is such an extreme viewpoint, man.
     
  10. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Yeah, I mean, you don't go OL when you have a question at QB, and there are elite prospects available.
     
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  11. KeyFin

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    Yes, we tried that, Henne got injured and then Pennington brought us to the playoffs with that line. Once Henne returned (due to Penny getting hurt), he couldn't run the Pennington dink/dunk offense as effectively and we traded him away the following year.

    Then we fired the fist pumping coach.
    Then we fired the GM.
    Then we spent years rebuilding.
    Then we had LockerGate where we lost multiple linemen.

    It doesn't change that fact that a solid line allowed us to properly evaluate QB's while winning football games...because we had one heck of a run game and solid QB protection. The line HAS TO come first to properly evaluate what you have.
     
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  12. The_Dark_Knight

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    It seems though that the exception to the rules must apparently BE the rule...because if “he” or “they” did it, everyone can
     
  13. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    The point is that we tried with a lesser-rated QB and by the time we found out he was rated lower for a reason, it was too late. We'd wasted many opportunities to get someone better.
     
  14. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    You have a very loose and defensive definition of "insult."
     
  15. Ohiophinphan

    Ohiophinphan Chaplain Staff Member Luxury Box

    Desiring someone dead is beyond acceptable. This thread is closed
     
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