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So glad we got rid of this guy

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Finatik, Nov 12, 2020.

  1. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    From PFT:
    Texans receiver Kenny Stills, an NFL player who will always say and do what he believes regardless of the consequences, has made his views clear regarding the team’s decision to fire P.R. director Amy Palcic. Stills doesn’t like it.

    Although not available to reporters on Wednesday — one of the realities of life in COVID-19 for NFL teams — Stills used Twitter to express himself. He affirmatively has shared his belief that Palcic “is great,” and he has clicked the “like” button on various tweets sharply critical of the team’s decision.

    Stills’ “likes” include this tweet, from Charean Williams of PFT: “The Texans have turned into one of the worst organizations in football since Bob McNair died. @amypalcic was the best. She certainly was too good for what the Texans deserve.”

    Stills has only 10 catches for 138 yards in 2020.

    ME - It's one thing to voice your opinion, it's another to cr@p on the team when you only got 10 for 138. Always about him and his "feelings" his "opinions". Shut up and go catch the ball, something he hasn't done with regularity this year. Team first. Your crap second.
     
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  2. AGuyNamedAlex

    AGuyNamedAlex Well-Known Member

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    It doesnt bother me personally. I don't believe in towing the company line. It might be a bit over the top but hes not wrong.
     
  3. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    Team sports is a little different I think.
     
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  4. AGuyNamedAlex

    AGuyNamedAlex Well-Known Member

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    It is, and I do agree hes over the top sometimes and that can be a distraction you dont want.

    I'd be more concerned though if the Texans were a good team and he was causing drama. Losing usually brings out the worst in that type of person and I'd bet everyone is frustrated, hes just the one who says it out loud.
     
  5. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    How you react to losing tells a lot about a person. It's easy to win.
     
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  6. AGuyNamedAlex

    AGuyNamedAlex Well-Known Member

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    That is fair enough. Definitely not untrue.
     
  7. Tin Indian

    Tin Indian Rockin' The Bottom End Club Member

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    Everything I've read has been in support of Amy Palcic. It's not only Stills but even JJ Watt has come out against the move. The worst part is no one seems to know what the real reason is, just some vague nonsense about not being a match in the organization any longer. I don't have a problem with Kenny expressing his opinions on things but clearly Flores had difficulty with something about him. After he and Flores started clashing last year it wasn't long before he found himself in Houston.
     
  8. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    A man's character is never tested more than when faced with adversity. It is easy to praise and be positive when basking in the glow of success. It is easy to ridicule, question and be negative when in the midst of failure.

    What is difficult, but necessary for a leader within an organization is to be positive (even in failure, something positive can be learned) as your actions are an example to those who look at you as a role model. In failure, one must ask "what more could I have done?" because there is ALWAYS one more thing you could have done. And as a leader, a mentor and a role model to junior members of your organization you have to be able to pick up that burden, place it on your shoulders and proverbially say to the others, "we got this" and keep striving to be better.

    Kenny Stills, despite his talents is becoming another Terrell Owens...a cancer within that organization that needs to be removed.
     
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  9. invid

    invid Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    If you've been keeping up with the saga of Easterby it makes it even more interesting.

    Here, you have a guy who effectively lied on his resume and remains on the team, and a lady whose PR team won an NFL award a couple years ago and she's let go.

    That franchise's FO is kind of a dump right now. The O'Brien stench lingers.
     
  10. tirty8

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    I hate it when big time athletes stand up for the little guy too. You make a good point. If you are productive on the field then you can start standing up for what you think is right.
     
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    Bumrush Stable Genius Club Member

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  12. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    I disagree. We all have our own opinions but at the end of the day, you can't ask any player to stop being human and speaking up for what he believes in. I understand Stills is an employee, but to me the burden falls to Houston to either fire him/reprimand him or do nothing. It's not our place to say what Stills can and can't believe, can and can't say, etc. Because even if I think he's 100% dead wrong in his views, I'm going to side with him whenever somebody else tells him that he's not entitled to speak his mind.

    That goes for all athletes, all people as well. A job is a job and your boss doesn't own you. We need to get rid of that mentality that only certain people have a right to express themselves. In America, we're all equal and we all have voices.
     
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  13. Disgustipate

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  14. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    Stills liked posts that say the organization sucks since the old owner died.

    Here's what JJ said. Maybe you can see the difference in how a professional handles it and not an underachieving malcontent.

    “I think you can tell from the universal response from prominent people in the business, what type of person Amy is and how well respected and well liked she is, both inside our building and outside the building,” Watt told reporters Wednesday. “Extremely professional. Just really good at her job. Cared a lot. Just wants what’s best for the team and what’s best for the organization. Always trying to do what’s best, and was a massive helping hand with me during the hurricane, during my entire time here. So, I think it’s a very difficult loss. She’s an incredible person and I think she’s going to have another job in an absolute heartbeat. I think it’s a big loss for us.”
     
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  15. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    They're communicating the exact same idea. It doesn't take a masterful command of the language to read between the lines and figure out that JJ Watt has the same feelings about it. It beggars belief that a purportedly grown-*** adult man in 2020 is scandalized by someone saying something "sucks".
     
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  16. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    Scandalized???? Ok. Glad they're stuck with his contract.......and him.
     
  17. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    Think about what you're saying here. You read an article that was based on someone liking a few Twitter posts....THAT'S NOT NEWS! People like all kinds of stuff for many different reasons and nobody who calls themselves a journalist should build a whole story around a freakin' like button. That's absolute insanity to call that reporting.

    Why? Because I can write "I like butterflies" in a post. Let's say you like butterflies too, so you like my post. Then I edit that to say, "I like butterflies and Tom Brady is the devil." Guess what, you've already liked my post about the devil Brady. Or maybe the whole message was there from the start and let's say that you really, really like butterflies....or maybe you want to hook up with my sister. So you still like the post. A like in no way represents someone's opinions or interests....you have no idea why someone likes something.

    And by the way, the organization does suck since the owner died. They have a very talented playoff roster and they've won one game this year. It's not rocket science to realize that something's off over there.
     
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  18. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    It's not what he said, or how he said it, so you just wanted to start a thread to be mad and red and nude online about Kenny Stills about whatever perceived grievances you have from years ago I guess?

    It takes all types I guess(???)
     
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  19. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    Not mad, or red but I am naked - not a pretty sight. Lol. Opposite. I'm happy his lack of production, contract and extracurricular issues are someone else's problem.
     
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  20. AGuyNamedAlex

    AGuyNamedAlex Well-Known Member

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    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder my friend LOL I'm sure someone thinks it's a pretty sight, just not us.
     
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  21. OwesOwn614

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    Big whoop. I liked Stills on and off the field but he's gone now. I couldn't care less about whether he thinks the team was wrong to fire somebody. Turns out, several other players (including JJ Watt) have gone on record to say that she was wonderful too. If I was irritated by Stills for this, I'd be irritated by them too. And in 2020, that irritation is at the bottom of a big pile of more important things for me.
     
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  22. Rick 1966

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    I don't believe in it either. Mostly because it's "toe the line." ;-)
     
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  23. AGuyNamedAlex

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    Nah dude I take the line and attach a tow truck to it, move it where I want.

    Kidding.
     
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  24. Puka-head

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    I've got no problem with Kenny Stills speaking his mind, last I looked NFL teams were all US companies.

    But he can raise all the trouble he wants over there, anything to help that team lose every game possible is great. He's still a Dolphin at heart maybe.
     
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  25. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    Never thought about that. Stills sow your seeds of dissent. You won’t hear another peep from me.
     
  26. plc001

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    Why do football players care about a PR director? Not in the sense of personally care about another person, just how does a PR director interface with football players on a regular basis?
     
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  27. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    They want to be relevant outside of the game
     
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  28. OwesOwn614

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    Good question. If I had to guess, she probably helped Stills and Watt with some of their charitable and community outreach projects. Both are active with helping others and a PR director could put them in contact with the people they need to further their ventures. Not just that, but I'm pretty sure there've been a lot of late night calls from PR directors that have kept players out of dicey situations. I'd also gather that they have given players plenty of tips and training on how to polish up their public images.
     
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  29. xphinfanx

    xphinfanx Stay strong my friends.

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    Hahaha go Stills help knockem down we need the best draft pick possible.
     
  30. Silverphin

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    So, multiple players had a problem with the PR director being fired, but Stills get singled out because...
     
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    People can have an opinion but don't cry when it will cost you money.
     
  32. Ronnie Bass

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    Setting them up for interviews? I would imagine under that umbrellas they would get to know her very well.
     
  33. Drizzy

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    shut up and dribble basically?
     
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  34. Irishman

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    Great point.

    It would address the reason so many of these immature players complain on social media; especially when their play is between lackluster and non-existent on the field.

    The example where JJ Watts complained was a misrepresentation of what the quote demonstrated. He was sad about the loss of someone he felt was doing a good job and that is all. I used the word misrepresentation because it is accurate and unemotional. There is a four letter word I could have used that is also accurate, but usually very emotional.

    If you work for a company but don't like what's going on, you can always quit. Expressing your opinions about the company while you remain working for that company relegates your position to just a whine. If you have INTEGRITY and you feel the company is doing something bad, quitting says a lot more then a bunch of overstated verbiage from a disgruntled employee who doesn't like working there!

    You are justified in taking anything they have to say with a "pinch of salt".
     
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  35. Vertical Limit

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    Shut up and catch the ball... ah, you must be a frequent OAN/Fox viewer.

    I dont like the tweets he liked, it is bad attention on himself. The Texans fired Amy due to her political views and he has a problem with it, but he should direct the issues with the one who made the decision, not the whole organization. And he definitely shouldnt like a tweet that mentions Bob McNairs death.

    But other than that? Stills has shown to be a very good man and guaranteed he has done a whole lot more in his community service than you have.
     
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  36. Finatik

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    The problem I has is that he’s insulting his team. Agreeing they suck. Maybe they do, but show up. And what have you done to keep it real and winning? Very little. JJ at least kept it classy. That is the difference. NEVER INSULT YOUR TEAM. Ever. Period.
     
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