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***The Official Miami Dolphins 2020 3-Day Draft Thread***

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by The G Man, Apr 23, 2020.

  1. Ronnie Bass

    Ronnie Bass Luxury Box Luxury Box

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    Mims could be a DT type of player, he's got the goods.
     
  2. hitman8

    hitman8 Well-Known Member

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    That's a good comp. Very similar players. Hopefully Davis ends up having a better career than Daryl. I think his floor is pretty good though, at the very least we are getting a good run stuffer.
     
  3. hitman8

    hitman8 Well-Known Member

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    Rosenhaus is the new patient 31.
     
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  4. JIGGAJOE

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    I get that, but we only have so many roster spots. Quality over quantity at some point, right?
     
  5. ExplosionsInDaSky

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    I think it's more of an "options" method. Like we hope to hit on a few of these picks.
     
  6. phinswolverinesrockets

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    Packers...smh
     
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  7. Tin Indian

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    I am loving this draft so far. Football players and not a bunch of shiny things.
     
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  8. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    We aren't exactly bursting at the seems with talent we don't want to displace lol. I'd be surprised if we stand pat entirely, but we will see. If we make some moves, I'd say rounds 3-4 are most likely. Still good talent and we have that enormous void.
     
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  9. hitman8

    hitman8 Well-Known Member

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    There goes AJ Dillon to the packers.
     
  10. Surfs Up 99

    Surfs Up 99 Team Flores & Team Tua

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    Damn! I really wanted Dillon!
     
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  11. Phinz13

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    I guess we’ll have to address RB next year
     
  12. The G Man

    The G Man Git 'r doooonnne!!!

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    Looks like we're punting on RB's this draft?
     
  13. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    Unless we make A LOT of moves on day 3, we will draft 1-2 guys in those lower rounds. And imo some interesting names too.
     
  14. hitman8

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    Antonio Gibson is still available. Joshua Kelly is a guy I like in the later rounds as well.
     
  15. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    Andy Reid, you are fooling nobody with that exercise bike in the background. :chuckle:
     
  16. my 2 cents

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    Target at tb might be Darrynton Evans which I would love....
     
  17. Puka-head

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    It's why I went with #54 jersey last nigh. EXACTLY what I was hoping for. Bunch of BALLERS.. Nobody knows their names. YET!
     
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  18. Vertical Limit

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    Hes from Miami, of course hes breaking those rules no one in Miami follows themand we are not going to get out of this mess anytime soon here..
     
  19. hitman8

    hitman8 Well-Known Member

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    I'm looking at LB Troy Dye, OT Jack Driscoll, DL Jordan Elliot or S Jeremy Chinn with the #70 pick.
     
  20. hitman8

    hitman8 Well-Known Member

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    There goes Chinn
     
  21. RBradleigh81

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    So can I start pounding the Travis Etienne for 2021 drum? Tank for Travis :)
     
  22. Rick 1966

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    Vast majority of the cases in Florida are in Dade and Broward. Lots of international visitors, lots of older people.
     
  23. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    All exercise bikes are really clothing racks
     
  24. texanphinatic

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    Malcolm Perry is super interesting.
     
  25. texanphinatic

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    Ashtyn Davis would make sense here. Zack Baun, Jack Driscoll, Cush/Henny.

    I've been wrong on pretty much everyone not Tua though so what do I know?
     
  26. hitman8

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    Fuuuuuuck, there goes Antonio Gibson
     
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  27. Surfs Up 99

    Surfs Up 99 Team Flores & Team Tua

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    Damn! There went Gibson!
     
  28. JIGGAJOE

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    I'm hoping we grab Lynn Bowden in the 3rd here. Could probably play RB, and would definitely be an upgrade at wildcat QB.
     
  29. hitman8

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    S Ashtyn Davis to the Jests
     
  30. hitman8

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    We're on the clock...
     
  31. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    Laaaaaaaaaame
     
  32. Puka-head

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    Cushenberry! Or Biadasz. Build the wall
     
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  33. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    Not bad.
     
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  34. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    Nope. You still don't understand the term.

    Anyhow, you're also wrong about his durability. I mean, he missed the last 3 games of last season due to a freak, and bad injury, but before that he had never missed a game.

    You're also wrong about the "system based" nonsense. He played in, and excelled in, 3 different systems.

    Here's a take from a website you cited earlier:

    "When accuracy scores and placement scores fluctuate as they do with Tagovailoa and Burrow, it indicates choices a quarterback makes. Burrow throws more catchable (i.e. accurate) footballs to his receivers, but in doing so, is more likely to leave the ball in a position where it can be played on by a defender. He's trusting his receivers to win in contested situations and do some of the work for him and rightfully so — he had some good receivers.

    Tagovailoa is more likely to miss his receiver for the sake of protecting the football from defenders. The leverage of defensive backs is not considered in the accuracy measure, but it is considered as part of the placement measure. In this way, Tagovailoa is often leading his receivers into open space, and even if he over-extends them, he knows he put the ball in a spot where only they could get to it.

    This dichotomy is also present in their dropback data when they didn't successfully throw a chartable pass. Burrow has the second-highest scramble rate (8.2%) and highest sack rate (7.2%) of the quarterbacks in this class, which shows how long he's willing to hold on to the football. He's below Tagovailoa in throwaway rate as well, only scrapping 1% of his dropbacks as opposed to Tagovailoa’s 1.7%.

    When considering their responses to pressure, it happens again. When Burrow is pressured, he stands and delivers the football only 47.8% of the time; for Tagovailoa, that number is 58.3%. The difference is only highlighted in pressures for which the quarterback is responsible for the additional rusher or successful rush angle. On QB responsibility pressures, Burrow threw the ball 47.4% of the time; Tagovailoa 59.1% of the time.

    WHO'S BETTER?
    I think Burrow, but I don’t know; I thought that off of film evaluations since winter and nothing in Contextualized Quarterbacking changed my mind. Both are really good with some unmatched measures in three years of charting. Both have concerning spots in their CQ profiles and traditional scouting profiles as well.

    What I know is they are really different passers. Tagovailoa is a pocket player who wants to distribute quick, maximize yards after the catch and keep his plate clean; Burrow is a creative player who can win in the quick game but wants to make plays outside of the pocket, push the ball further down the field and break structure."

    https://thedraftnetwork.com/article...-contextualized-quarterbacking-nfl-draft-2020

    (It's a pay article so unless you subscribe you can't read it at their site)



    Anyhow, you're wrong, as usual. Your MO is to call 9/10 picks horrible or busts from the start. The truth is, the MAJORITY of picks are not going to the HoF, or pro-bowl, or will become All-Pros, so if that's what you expect from every pick, as you seem to, then of course most of the picks will be "busts". However, the reason a player ends up not being good is typically due to scheme fit and mental make-up. Things you know nothing about. You also don't really know what you're talking about in regards to a players strength or weaknesses. You throw **** against the wall and hope for something to stick. And in the draft, a lot of **** will stick.
     
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  35. phinswolverinesrockets

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    The Ravens are killing it.

    Steal of the draft right there.
     
  36. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    NICE.

    Smart, talented, physical and versatile. Lots of room to grow, the Texas D wasn't well used.
     
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  37. Silverphin

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    Another piece to the secondary. I like that.
     
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  38. Destroyer

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    Looks like we are trading for Fournette.
     
  39. hitman8

    hitman8 Well-Known Member

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    I do not hate on 9/10 picks to see what sticks. In this draft I didnt like the first three picks, but I did like the next two. Last year was about even between picks I liked and picks I didnt. Generally speaking the picks I like tend to do well, and the picks I absolutely hate tend do do bad. Last year I hated the Deiter and Van Ginkell picks, and neither of them look like they are going to pan out.

    In 2018 I liked most of the picks we made, although I said I would have preferred Derwin James over Minkah, and in hindsight I was right again. Year before that in 2017 my big hated pick was Charles Harris, that was the year we started with our frequent arguments, and we all know how charles turned out.

    So no, I don't just throw **** against the wall, and no, not all busts are due to scheme fit or mentall issues, sometimes NFL GMs and coaches really just **** things up in their evaluations or are not very good at it to begin with. Charles harris doesnt have any scheme or mental issues for example, he is just not as good as you and the dolphins thought he was.
     
  40. hitman8

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    Jones is a MEH pick, another reach. Has decent speed but bad coverage skills and not special in any one area. There were lots of better players available at #70

    I dont get this pick other than he fills a need I guess.
     

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