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Sign Petition to remove Vick from Pro Bowl

Discussion in 'Other NFL' started by Puka-head, Dec 6, 2019.

  1. AGuyNamedAlex

    AGuyNamedAlex Well-Known Member

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    Do you think you can either post why here or message it to me? That's really interesting.
     
  2. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    I don't think anyone is excusing anything, I signed the petition because I'm against cruelty in all its forms, animals and people.

    But there is a hypocrisy with this for a lot of people. We are justifiably upset about dog fighting but perfectly fine with the meat, dairy and egg businesses. Most people, just like you have above, WADR, create these nebulous benchmarks, to justify cruelty against animals, and people.

    Your argument about dogs, completely ignores the fact, that dogs went through centuries of breeding and conditioning to do those things while farm animals, went through centuries of breeding and conditioning to put on as much weight as quickly as possible. You are essentially saying dogs deserve better treatment than farm animals because we bred them over 1000's of years to do more for us alive than dead while we bred farm animals over 1000's of years do more for us dead than alive. Cows mourn their dead. Rosters will give their lives to defend their flock. Pigs are objectively and measurably smarter than dogs. The benchmarks you've created (and again, its not just you) are completely arbitrary. And none of those benchmarks actually justify the difference between one being gets to live while the other gets to die. The only real benchmark should be, "do I need to take this life?". If the answer is "no, I don't need to", then taking that life anyway, is taking a life for wants not needs, which is exactly what dog fighting is. The entirety of this argument is too justify......flavor. Its like putting down two bowls of ice cream each with a cat next to them, and saying, which ever ice cream tastes the best then the cat next to it must die. If killing a cat because the ice cream he's standing next to tastes good, seems ridiculous, then how do we justify killing a cow because a beef burger tastes better than a plant-based burger?

    Also, your notion of small farms = better treatment isn't a universal truth at all. Some do treat the animals better, while some do not. I have a pig on my sanctuary, who was burned by a falling heat lamp the day he was born. This small local farmer, told the kid that works for him, to take the burned 1 day old piglet and chuck him in the woods alive to die, (that was 8 years ago, and Piggie Smalls, is still alive, well, healthy). I have 100's of stories like that and waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay way way worse. Regardless of how they treat the animals while they're alive, at the end of the day they will be killed before their time to produce flavor.

    Harming a puppy is like child abuse to me too. But again, the meat and dairy industries are terrible to babies. Most of the livestock people consume are young and adolescent animals. The average chicken has a life span of 8 years and is slaughtered at 5-7 weeks, for example. Don't get me started on veal.
     
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  3. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    No you didn't say one thing about dogs. That's why I asked you the question. I also asked how you felt about Vick and dog killers in general.

    Totally agree with you on the current Pro Bowl. When I lived in Hawaii I went every year, used to be a good game. I had the opportunity to take dozens of NFL players fishing during the 80's when I crewed/Captained charter boats out of Kewalo Basin in Honolulu. Not the same now at all, but still an award, an honor given to exceptional players.
     
  4. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    By the way the petition now has 440k signatures. Keep sharing and maybe it will have an impact.
     
  5. Carmen Cygni

    Carmen Cygni Well-Known Member

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    Ah, another fad quick diet. And this one encourages people to get their body into a state most recognizable by the disease diabetes. :smackhead:

    A healthy lifestyle is NOT difficult, we (Americans conniving capitalists especially) make it much harder than it all really is.

    I got your tried and true diet right here: Eat food (i.e. in it's most natural form, not processed crap). Not too much. Mostly (if not all) plants. Eliminate as much sugar and salt as possible and get some exercise while you're at it. Keep that regimen and you are guaranteed a more healthy and better you. Physical health is easy.
     
  6. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    Ok, let me say this again...

    I... DON’T...CARE...ABOUT... THE...PRO...BOWL

    Until it becomes the game it once was, the BEST vs the BEST and a TRUE football game, I don’t care who’s involved with it. If you guys believe the Pro Bowl actually means something and are butt sore that Vick is a captain, then sign all the petitions you want if it makes you feel better.

    Personally I think Vick should have a cattle prod shoved up it rear for being the weak minded ghetto thug that he is, but I can’t say things like that because it’s racially insensitive and stereotypical so I offer no opinion

    There, feel better that I condemned Vick? Does that satisfy your need?
     
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  7. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    Yes. Thank You
     
  8. Conka

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    People are idiots who believe what ever media tells them. There was no dog fighting anything . All you saw were still shots of dogs and buildings that you couldn't prove the origin of. Everything can be faked now.
     

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