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Cut down time- chopping block list

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by jim1, Aug 27, 2008.

  1. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    Safeties Renaldo Hill and Courtney Bryan, quarterback John Beck, tailback Patrick Cobbs, fullback Reagan Mauia, tight end Justin Peelle, receiver Greg Camarillo, offensive lineman Ikechuku Ndukwe, linebackers Edmond Miles and Rob Ninkovich, and defensive linemen Rodrique Wright and Paul Soliai are all on the shopping, or chopping block.

    Some, like Camarillo, Cobbs, Hill, and maybe even Peelle, Miles and Wright, might survive for now. But the way this regime plans to churn the roster this season it's probably wise for them to rent, and not buy.

    http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_football_dolphins/2008/08/dolphins-list-e.html
     
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  2. gunn34

    gunn34 I miss Don & Dan

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    I thought we were already under the cut line with only 72 players. The cut mark this early is 75.
     
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  3. SuncoastFinsFan

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    At 72 players, that means we still have to cut 20 players. I have no problem with any of those players named being cut.

    And there is no real risk with putting anyone on the PS. I can't imagine anyone we put on the PS will be snapped up, but if they are, it won't be a big loss.

    Sosa is the only one I think would be in danger, and once the waiver wire pickups are through, we may even be able to upgrade above anything we could put on the PS anyway.
     
  4. Crappy Tipper

    Crappy Tipper AKA Hero13

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    I would hate to see Peele go last season he showed so much more agility and skill to get downfield after the catch than Martin. I miss Ferrell Edmunds :D
     
  5. Brown42000

    Brown42000 Chillin

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    I think they should keep Renaldo Hill he could be very valuable this season.
     
  6. The Aqua Crush

    The Aqua Crush New Member

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    For some reason or another i've really liked the way Nincovich has played in teh preseason.
     
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  7. Boomer

    Boomer Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Be VERY surprised if Ed Miles is whacked.

    Even more surprised if Paul Soliai is whacked.

    And staggered beyond belief if Patrick Cobbs gets the heave ho.
     
  8. RalphX19X

    RalphX19X >:)

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    Key part...

    Just Omar's opinion and his opinion is wrong most of the time.
     
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  9. cdz12250

    cdz12250 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Think you're old? I miss the Mad Dog. ;-)
     
  10. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    Ninkovich is a gamer, I hope that he sticks. I've been pulling for Quentin Moses, and he seems to have some really good tools to work with. But at the end of the day you've got to produce, and I don't see him doing much.

    Beck- boy, that's confusing. I'm beginning to think that maybe Joe Theissmann is right (what a painful admission) about Beck being scarred from last year. Too many fumbles, cases of the jitters, etc. But the thought of outright releasing him doesn't sit right with me. maybe we do keep four at QB until some team has a need and makes a decent offer for beck. Who knows.
     
  11. Onehondo

    Onehondo Senior Member Club Member

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    I sure hope they don't put Bess on the practice squad, he will be grabbed by someone.

    The waiver wire will be real interesting as Ireland already has his shopping cart on isle #5 just waiting for the bargains to hit the shelf.
     
  12. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    I think that Bess is safe. I wonder if anyone will snap up Jayson Foster if and when we stash him on the PS. Wilford- if he's been slow and unproductive almost from day one, I wonder if they cut him, take the hit and send a message to the team. It's nice to have a tall receiver on the team, but maybe they would have been better off drafting Marcus Monk in the 7th.
     
  13. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Not a chance in hell Soliai is cut. The guy is being rotated with the starters and backing up a guy in his mid 30s
    Bess is the #3 or #4 WR- it is unlikely he will be anywhere that isnt active on game day
     
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  14. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    You beat me to it. In the limited playing time he's had he's been around the ball and in the QB's face a BUNCH. Definitely a good back-up and I think he's made a play or two on ST also.
     
  15. Samphin

    Samphin Κακό σκυλί ψόφο δεν έχει

    It would be outright wrong if Camarillo, Soliai and Ninkovich were let go.

    It would be tough to swallow if Peelle, Hill or Rod Wright were let go.

    The rest I can take or leave, but I don't think Cobbs is getting cut before someone like Hilliard.
     
  16. CrunchTime

    CrunchTime Administrator Retired Administrator

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    The only ones I would not like to see cut would be highly underated renaldo Hill,Patrick Cobbs and Rodrique Wright .

    Of course I hope there is no serious thought of trading Ronnie .It seems he does not impress his coaches much in pre season judging from recent history but IMO he is a better all around back than Ricky .

    Losing Zach and JT in the same year is bad enough but trading Ronnie would make me question this regime.
     
  17. CrunchTime

    CrunchTime Administrator Retired Administrator

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    I would not be upset if Mauia is cut.IMO he was a luxury pick and he is overated by many fans.

    Just because he can run through a drywall it doesnt mean he can run through defenders as was proved last Saturday where he was stopped stone cold by a smaller man.

    In addition he has stone hands
     
  18. djphinfan

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    and it wasnt the first time ive seen him go down from one hit. grigsby fits us well, more athletic at the position, better hands, and i like his demeanor, tough sob
     
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  19. RoninFin4

    RoninFin4 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I think that Moses and Ninkovich will decide the last LB spot barring any one brought in from another team. Ninkovich has made plays, but I remember Parcells liking Moses' tools when he first took over. If Parcells and Ireland think they can develop him, I won't be surprised if he makes it over Ninkovich, even if Ninkovich has produced more in the preseason. Personally, I'm hoping Moses can be our version of Dallas' Kevin Burnett. A solid #3 OLB that can rush of the edge. If...or when I guess, Joey Porter leaves, I think Moses will get a chance to win the WOLB spot. I'd love to think he and Merling will be our starters in 2009, but that may be too wishful of thinking.
     
  20. RevRick

    RevRick Long Haired Leaping Gnome Club Member

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    Move over, youngster. I miss Larry Seiple.
     
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  21. PhinGeneral

    PhinGeneral PC Texas A&M, Bro Club Member

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    I'd pretty much agree. I think Omar Kelly is overstating things by coming to the conclusion that a number of those players may be on the wrong side of the chopping block just because they were on a 1-15 team.
     
  22. Jaj

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    Be a bloody shame if they cut good, cheap depth in Rodrique Wright.
     
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  23. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    I just don't see how R. Wright would get cut. Too good and too versatile.
     
  24. Jaj

    Jaj Registered

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    It happens to be their position of greatest depth. That's the only reason why.

    Still it would be stupid since they can carry him and PS Dotson.
     
  25. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    Has Dotson been any good? I haven't seen him play yet.
     
  26. Jaj

    Jaj Registered

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    From what I remember, he's been ok. Nothing special but if he plays decent there's no reason not to keep him to eventually be the 5th man in the 3-4 DE rotation with Merling getting the bump to 3-4 DE starter.
     
  27. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    Yeah, but don't forget Starks as a swing DE/DT. I'm thinking practice squad at best for Dotson.
     
  28. alen1

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    I can't see Ninkovich, Cobbs and Soliai going anywhere. Ninkovich is the backup OLB for us and with Porter out, he may be more valuable to us. Soliai has really shaped up and has been impressive. He could eventually be our replacement for Ferguson. Cobbs has been running hard.
     
  29. Jaj

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    I can't see Ninkovich making it since they have four OLBs to carry and four ILBs with Merling providing a possible 5th whenever necessary and Torbor/Ayodele capable of playing OLB at certain times.
     
  30. Styla

    Styla #1 Davone Bess Fan!!!

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    Dolphin tidbits for Aug. 27th

    Dolphins | Soliai could be released
    Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:54:11 -0700

    Omar Kelly, of the South Florida SunSentinel, reports Miami Dolphins DL Paul Soliai may not make the team's final roster.


    Dolphins | Wright could be released
    Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:53:44 -0700

    Omar Kelly, of the South Florida SunSentinel, reports Miami Dolphins DL Rodrique Wright may not make the team's final roster.


    Dolphins | Ninlovich could be released
    Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:49:42 -0700

    Omar Kelly, of the South Florida SunSentinel, reports Miami Dolphins DL Rob Ninkovich may not make the team's final roster


    Dolphins | Miles could be released
    Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:48:49 -0700

    Omar Kelly, of the South Florida SunSentinel, reports Miami Dolphins LB Edmond Miles may not make the team's final roster.


    Dolphins | Ndukwe could be released
    Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:46:20 -0700

    Omar Kelly, of the South Florida SunSentinel, reports Miami Dolphins OG Ike Ndukwe may not make the team's final roster.


    Dolphins | Camarillo could be released
    Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:45:18 -0700

    Omar Kelly, of the South Florida SunSentinel, reports Miami Dolphins WR Greg Camarillo may not make the team's final roster.


    Dolphins | Peelle could be released
    Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:40:20 -0700

    Omar Kelly, of the South Florida SunSentinel, reports Miami Dolphins TE Justin Peelle may not make the team's final roster.

    Dolphins | Mauia could be released
    Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:38:47 -0700

    Omar Kelly, of the South Florida SunSentinel, reports Miami Dolphins FB Reagan Mauia may not make the team's final roster.


    Dolphins | Cobbs could be released
    Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:37:20 -0700

    Omar Kelly, of the South Florida SunSentinel, reports Miami Dolphins RB Patrick Cobbs may not make the team's final roster.

    Dolphins | Beck could be released
    Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:36:35 -0700

    Omar Kelly, of the South Florida SunSentinel, reports Miami Dolphins QB John Beck may not make the team's final roster.

    Dolphins | Bryan could be released
    Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:35:22 -0700

    Omar Kelly, of the South Florida SunSentinel, reports Miami Dolphins FS Courtney Bryan may not make the team's final roster.

    Dolphins | Hill could be released
    Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:30:38 -0700

    Omar Kelly, of the South Florida SunSentinel, reports Miami Dolphins FS Renaldo Hill (knee) may not make the team's final roster.
     
  31. TheMageGandalf

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    He was OK, never met him personally but he worked out with my brother back in the day a few times...

    I really miss Keith Jackson :up:
     
  32. CrunchTime

    CrunchTime Administrator Retired Administrator

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    Dolphins | Omar could be wrong
    Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:36:35 -0700
     
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  33. CrunchTime

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    All kidding aside Wright is the only one I object too.He has a lot of upside and he has produced.

    I like Cobb but recognize he is not one of Parcells guys.I wish Beck well but he has not helped his cause.I was hoping for a pick for him.

    On the plus side I am glad Hill is making the squad.
     
  34. Styla

    Styla #1 Davone Bess Fan!!!

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    I hope, on a few at least.
     
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  35. Styla

    Styla #1 Davone Bess Fan!!!

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    Just in cased it got looked over since it was the last post on the page:

    http://forums.thephins.com/showpost.php?p=309874&postcount=30
     
  36. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    One of the few Rev who will get that reference. Thats my players name on the Goal Line Blitz Miami Perfection team.
     
  37. RoninFin4

    RoninFin4 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I'd think practice squad for Dotson this year, then he becomes a rotational guy if Merling is fully converted to OLB next year and/or Vonnie Holliday is let go.
     
  38. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    It depends on if there are any players they claim on waivers who are better.
    I think we will keep 25 defensive players. 7 DL, 8 LB and 10 DB. Right now, Ninkovich is one of the 8 best LBs on the roster IMO. Wright is easily the 7th DL and Sparano said when you get good DL you hang on to them. Wright's ability to play both the left and right side equally well, should help him.

    FWIW, we will also keep 25 offensive players IMO. 3 QBs, 5 OBs, 5 WRs, 3 TEs, and 9 OL. That leave 3 spots for the K, P and LS.
     
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  39. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Omar is a doofus. If we cut everyone he mentions there would only be about 40 players left on the roster. While we may find a few guys on waivers worth claiming, I don't expect we will find 13 or so better than what we got.
     
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  40. padre31

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    That is absurd, Kelly should not post and hit the ganja, that is 1/3 of our Dline, and Beck being let go for -0- is crazy, ditto Cobbs and Camarillo.

    I suppose if those some of those players are cut, Omar will say "I told you so".

    Tool.
     
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