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****The Official 2017-18 NBA Thread****

Discussion in 'Other Sports Forum' started by Boik14, Oct 17, 2017.

  1. Hoops

    Hoops Well-Known Member

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    can't agree with wade was a better player than LeBron at the time. I saw LeBron beat the pistons all by himself. it was rediculous

    I think the ray allen thing with better perimeter d might be the best overall comp for klay. and allen was the high 3 in boston. which imo was an ideal scenario
     
  2. Fin-O

    Fin-O Initiated Club Member

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    I like Wade, but thats just silly.

    TV show was a disaster, yes. He was immature and stupid.

    Coming back home and the things he has done for that city on the court and off, erase the hell out of any bad PR he had 8 years ago.
     
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  3. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    It’s not silly. At that time Wade elevated his team to a height Lefail couldnt. Lebron still hasn’t had a postseason like Wade had in 06. Think of it this way...if Lebron leads the supporting cast of Love and co to the finals and wins it’s close to what Wade did vs that 60 win Mavs team. The best best players Wade had on that team were old Shaq, Fatoine Walker, Jason Williams (who was rendered useless in the Finals) and washed up Gary Payton and Zo. That Mavs team was loaded with Dirk, Terry, Howard, Stackhouse etc. Wade had dominated Kobe Bryant, a player who for his career, was flat out better then Lebron.
     
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  4. CaribPhin

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    I'm not sure you can really knock Allen for not creating his own shot. He very much was a ball handling SG earlier in his career with the Bucks and Sonics. He was pretty good at the rim too and had hops. I don't think you can put up the scoring averages he did prior to Boston without being able to create your own shot. His game changed at the tail end to preserve him and maximize his scoring efficiency (less shots, more 3's) but that was by design. He was never needed to be the top option after being traded from the Sonics.

    I certainly don't think you can knock Ray Allen as not being enough of a shot creator while praising Klay as one.
     
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  5. Fin-O

    Fin-O Initiated Club Member

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    Lebron took a tea to the finals and 60 Wins that guys like Kobe would’ve and did miss the playoffs with.

    You don’t like him as a person. I get it. But ya still gotta be realistic when evaluating his play on the court.
     
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  6. Hoops

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    Yeah I’m thinking of more the Celtics version of Ray Allen
     
  7. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Kobe also played in the much tougher conference for the duration of his career. Lebron got to walk thru the crappy east most years. If Kobe had some of those teams in the east, theres no telling how many more wins some of those teams wouldve had. And the one time the east was strong, with Pierce/KG/Allen C's, he couldnt beat them til he went to Miami. I get it, you and many others love him, but it doesnt change facts.
     
  8. Hoops

    Hoops Well-Known Member

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    Kobe take 45 shots and make 15 Bryant
     
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  9. Fin-O

    Fin-O Initiated Club Member

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    Kobe "most missed shots in NBA history" Bryant was a top 10 all time player, but trying to put him above Lebron proves what ive known all along.

    Matt is on heroine.
     
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  10. Hoops

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    I’ve never been a fan of volume scorers. Especially ones that don’t get others involved.

    If you shoot it at a 35 percent clip to score 30 I wouldn’t exactly call that efficient.

    I’d call it a bottomless pit.
     
  11. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    People forget Jordan had some awful playoff games shooting wise. Not as many as Kobe but Kobe also took more 3s and forced more shots.
     
  12. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Did i have a sex change i dont know about numbnuts?

    her·o·ine
    ˈherōən/
    noun
    1. a woman admired or idealized for her courage, outstanding achievements, or noble qualities.
      "she was the heroine of a materialist generation"
      synonyms: brave woman, hero, woman of courage, woman of the hour;
     
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  13. Fin-O

    Fin-O Initiated Club Member

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    :chuckle::chuckle:

    Definitely a typo. We all know you have zero.... noble qualities.
     
  14. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Lol, oh really...do tell...
     
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  15. Fin-O

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    Chris Paul..... hello.......are you there?
     
  16. phinswolverinesrockets

    phinswolverinesrockets If he dies, he dies

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    It is 5 vs 1 tonight. Harden is out here by himself...smh

    Everyone else looks scared to death.
     
  17. phinswolverinesrockets

    phinswolverinesrockets If he dies, he dies

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    You out here by yourself, Harden. Don't trust anyone. Shoot it 50 times.
     
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  18. GARDENHEAD

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    Very impressed by Houston. Great way to keep at it.
     
  19. Fin-O

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    LOVE what he did to Draymond. Dude is a punk
     
  20. Vertical Limit

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    +1
     
  21. phinswolverinesrockets

    phinswolverinesrockets If he dies, he dies

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    Damnit, James. You got the 7 point halftime lead by yourself. I told you not to trust these scared scrubs. Why are you passing??? I don't care if they are wide open. They've missed 7 layups tonight.
     
  22. Fin-O

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    Valiant effort by HOU, they simply like everyone else just cant match that overwhelming amount if talent the Warriors have.

    Add to that a helluva coach and you get a team that will win multiple titles.
     
  23. BevoPhin

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    KD really ruined the league going to Golden State. The rest of the league might as well just stack assets until this ****s over in a few years.
     
  24. Fin-O

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    The Warriors, with 4 in their prime HOFers, going to Hack-a-Capela in the 2nd quarter is an embarrassment to everyone involved.

    Thats a tweet from Nick Wright. And he's 100% correct.
     
  25. phinswolverinesrockets

    phinswolverinesrockets If he dies, he dies

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    Hell yeah...hell yeah

    **** the warriors!
     
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  26. phinswolverinesrockets

    phinswolverinesrockets If he dies, he dies

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    I refuse to accept that.
     
  27. Vertical Limit

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    Honestly the warriors blew it.. they had every chance to bust Houston’s head wide open and instead went to dumb ball in the 4th
     
  28. Fin-O

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    Rockets also kicked it into a gear from an effort and defensive standpoint I think surprised even GS. For the first time since Bron punked them in the 3-1 comeback....they looked shell shocked.
     
  29. phinswolverinesrockets

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    Lockdown defense


     
  30. CaribPhin

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    They have 2 actual HOFers and two guys who can only get in because of no standards. We can get in to the hall just for having an insightful post on this forum.
     
  31. Fin-O

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    Love watching the Rockets win, not a fan at all of the Warriors and their celebrated arrogance and media fellatio they recieve.

    That being said? I cant get to LV soon enough to bet the Warriors as a PK on Thu. They will come out on fire after this.
     
  32. MikeHoncho

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    LeBron James is not human. That is all.
     
  33. Vertical Limit

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    Lebron is being lebron. Kevin love is playing well too... the rest of that squad... yikes... if it werent for kevin love this squad would be up for debate on which cavs team was better... this or the one that lost to the spurs 10 years ago..
     
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  34. Vertical Limit

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    Btw tristan thompson has to be waived after this season with or without lebron james. That guy is pathetic and expensive. Same with Jr smith..
     
  35. BevoPhin

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    Id take his contract in a whiteside/winslow for TT/8th pick deal. Hes only got 2 years left.
     
  36. Vertical Limit

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    What is it, 7 or 8 straight Finals? It is finally starting to kick in on LeBron... he was tired, could not keep up with the celtics... he isnt going to give up, but losing game 6 may be best for him long term.. he has at least 3 more seasons in this form before we see a true decline.
     
  37. Hoops

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    2 games to win 1
     
  38. Fin-O

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    I will be betting big on Boston +7. I think the NBA will do all it can to prevent a meh team like Boston in....but im not sure they lose by 7.

    Warriors tomorrow, Celts Friday.

    I suck at capping NBA games but this is how I see it, as much as I dont want too.
     
  39. Boik14

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    I never understood this. As bad as he is, and to be clear there are some very bad games on his resume, waiving him does nothing. It doesn’t clear cap, it doesn’t get you a return on investment and while it’s a sunk cost, all it does is open a roster spot for likely a minimum salary guy (Cavs are capped if they sign Lebron...which I think they will) or a 2nd round/udfa type. Contracts worse then Tristan Thompson have been moved. Unless the player is a locker room cancer, there are too few benefits to doing this. Better off benching the player and waiting for his contract to end or wait for an injury and see if someone will make a move for him.
     
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  40. phinswolverinesrockets

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    We got them down 3-2.

    AND CHRIS PAUL PROBABLY IS OUT FOR THE REST OF THE SERIES.

    I want to vomit. I truly want to vomit. Unless Eric Gordon goes nuts, we are done.
     
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