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What's with the dictated tone on here?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Rickysabeast, Dec 27, 2017.

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  1. RGF

    RGF THE FINSTER Club Member

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    Oh ok, no harm no foul. Addition by subtraction if you ask me.
     
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  2. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    There have been rumors of collaboration with the Patriots organization. Preliminary investigation has drawn the conclusion the foreign instigators are trying to create hate, discontent and general divisiveness among the fan bases of rival teams.

    Interesting tidbit in the investigation concluded the attempts were largely successful everywhere but with Jets fans, who were mostly born full of hate and discontent.
     
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  3. JIGGAJOE

    JIGGAJOE Active Member

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    I don't post much, but mostly because I don't have the energy to squabble. I imagine moderating this site has to be similar to running a daycare. On a brighter note, we get one more week of football before purgatory. Phins up!
     
  4. jdallen1222

    jdallen1222 Well-Known Member

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    On an even brighter side, we get to see the throwbacks again.
     
  5. bigballa2102

    bigballa2102 Well-Known Member

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    im not sure they can, can they? I thought there was rules for franchise tag?
     
  6. bigballa2102

    bigballa2102 Well-Known Member

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    I don't see a reason anyone is reporting anything its such a remedial task if you ask me, its a blog, the fact anyone is complaining should give back their participation trophy and stop posting on the conversation.
     
  7. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    So if someone is acting out people should just shut up and deal with it and have their experience ruined while a particular person or group of people do whatever they want? That’s basically what you are saying. Not gonna happen.
     
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  8. bigballa2102

    bigballa2102 Well-Known Member

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    no just don't engage in the stupidity, its easy no one is mandating you have to respond. just move on and talk about what you want to talk about, but someone complaining because someone else called you an idiot over the internet and running to mommy (mods) and complaining is really remedial and childish is all im saying.

    there are particular people doing whatever they want so its really already happening just funny people think about complaining to me.

    if your not an idiot then why does it even bother you or anyone else I guess maybe its not a big deal to me but other might be sensitive to it. so I get it.
     
  9. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    I get what you’re saying balla, I really do which is why I took a month long hiatus from actually posting but I was still following the postings. Let me use this analogy if you will...

    I own a home. I live in a decent neighborhood that has a homeowners association that maintains the standard of the neighborhood I live in. I have my likes and dislikes of certain folks that live here but all in all, no issues at all. Now in moves a new resident who basically says to hell with all of you I’m doing what I want. Now I can ignore this person as much as I can but everyday I have to drive right past him and his house and his utter defiance of the rules and regulations. Do I just continue to ignore him and his antics no matter how badly he’s devaluing the neighborhood or do I report him?

    Dirty needed to be reported as he was bringing down the neighborhood and Ricky apparently didn’t care about his neighbors either.

    Stupidity sets a hostile and negative tone that affects all of us and none of us should have to tolerate it

    There was enough of that crap at Finheaven
     
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  10. bigballa2102

    bigballa2102 Well-Known Member

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    I agree but owning a home is a lot different than a blog post, you don't have to "drive by" if you had a different route couldn't you just take that? I was reported for damn near nothing and band a week for literally nothing that no one else was doing. I enjoyed dirty's antics it was funny to me because everyone got riled up was a bit much yes and I chose to not engage when I didn't think it was necessary or I didn't want to, but at the same time to be on the other side if the fence here.

    Say you own said home and you have a neighbor in the same HOA and you leave your garage door open for 5 min and it gets reported even though its in use. That said neighbor is the same nuisance as someone that says the hell with you. which is why I was saying if your going to not allow neighbor "A" why is neighbor "B" getting a pass ya know? in my opinion no one should be "banned" for this or that not everyone agrees nor will everyone agree that is the basis of the human mind to think separately of one another even though we are fickle we still have the ability to maintain our own thoughts.
     
  11. TotoreMexico

    TotoreMexico Your retarded

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    I became less active thanks to all the crap he used to start in the mains, the site was unbearable to be honest. These types of posters reduce the quality of the forum and affect the user experience greatly. Kudos to the mods for taking action, I won't miss this troll and his multiple accounts one bit.
     
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  12. Triggercut

    Triggercut Well-Known Member

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    Be careful, all you'll have left is the club, and nothing happens in the club.
     
  13. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I think a lot of people are missing the point here. It's not about a dictated tone at all. People aren't banned because they don't have a popular opinion. People are banned because they're probably violating the TOS, being disrespectful, or simply posting said "offensive opinion" with no real substance and it just becomes a rant, or a pretty blatant attempt at just stirring up the pot to start a riot. To me, that was dirtylandry in a nutshell.

    I don't know what got him banned officially, but I've got a pretty good idea. We all do. We lived it, right here in this very forum. There's proof of it right here in this very thread. When you've got a member, or two, that's degrading the quality of the board, flooding it with new threads, that could have just been posts in existing threads, being disrespectful, and essentially driving members AWAY from the forum, or into a "private" section of the forum, you have a problem, that needs to be dealt with.

    I liked what dirty brought to the table. Initially as he got active here, I thought it was great to see activity. However, that quickly degraded into threads with little to no substance. "Reports" with no actual information or links to credible sources. Then when we, as a group, a membership of thephins.com tried to point things out to him as to why he's getting pushback, and what the "rules" typically are here, you were responded to with his disrespectful tone, and disregard for the rules. As the season soured, all the little issues the board in general had with him, compounded. Not because of a negative tone, or topic, but because of a lack of quality/substance or any factual basis to his opinion. That puts that opinion post of his, into trolling for most people. If I come in here and say "Dan Marino is awful. Ryan Tannehill is better." Start that thread, and basically just leave it as Marino sucked, he never won anything. Tannehill at least has some promise (OK, bad example here since most already dislike RT lol) and then when people actually respond and challenge the issue, I respond with. "You don't know football" "You're an idiot." or whatever other generic response the guy had, you see the problem it quickly creates. His threads no longer come off as an opinion, it's viewed by most as trolling because there's no genuine attempt from him to discuss.

    If you're going oppose the norm, there's nothing wrong with that, but you better be prepared to state your case, and do so respectfully. That's really not a lot to ask. If you don't do that, and you respond the way dirty did, that's why he quickly jumps onto everyone's **** list, or block list, because he wasn't here to discuss, he was here to stir the pot. It was that way right from the start with him. I remember in his early days, he'd start a thread, no link, no info, you asked him to do that so there's actually something to see, and talk about and he'd want no part of it, and be disrespectful.

    It's pretty simple to me, and it's always been that way around here. Quality, over quanitity. It's not a hard concept to grasp. I've read threads here that I disagree with, but if the OP actually put an effort in to make their point, even if I think it's ridiculous, I'm going to want to respond and engage in conversation. That's just the way places like this work. Even if I disagree, if it's well thought out, we can discuss, debate, and eventually it should become easy to see to everyone who may disagree that "hey... ok. I at least understand now why he thinks that way. I don't agree, but I see why he thinks that, and I'm not likely to change his mind, so it is what it is." If we could all do that, things would be much better, however when you got those opposing viewpoint posts from dirty, and others and there's no attempt to do that, justify his opinions, etc. etc. and he responds only with being disrespectful to anyone who disagrees, he becomes a problem, more than a valuable member of the community.

    I remember sending the guy PM's on a couple of occasions just to say hey, maybe if you tried this approach, it'd be better. Only response you'd ever get was whatever, you're stupid. I don't care. I'll do what I want... Well, yeah, I suppose you can do what you want, you'll just have to do it elsewhere. :lol: I for one stopped, and took a less active role in these forums for those very reasons. It just saps the life out of it. Not because I disagreed with his opinion, but because there was no discussing anything with the guy, it was simply this became his twitter. A place for quick rants, that he saw got people to respond to him, and those people responded passionately, because that's what the intent of forums are, to discuss and debate. Not to drop a quick 15 words and stir the pot, then sit back and laugh, insult, and provide nothing of substance.

    In short, :lol: to me it's not about a dictated tone, it's more about a dictated message of quality over quantity. When you have members here, long, or short term saying they're no longer participating in the forum because of one or two people. Not their opinions... but the people themselves. You've got a problem that needs to be fixed. In the age of twitter and facebook where anyone can say whatever they want, and they believe it's easier for others to simply not read it if they don't like it I think people forget that forums like this one, aren't services like that. This is a community. This is a place to make relationships. This is a place to DISCUSS something we all have in common, The Miami Dolphins. This isn't a place for 140 character's or less rants/posts/threads. This is a place for us to belong, and discuss the team in depth, and have quality conversations whether you agree or not. So it's not about dictating tone to me, it's about dictating quality, civility, respect and actual conversation.

    I for one, hope these moves, and the understanding that quality should be priority around here helps bring new people in to converse, and bring people back who may have left, or stayed away, or who retreated into Club to avoid the nonsense that too often appeared here.
     
  14. KeyFin

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    There was no different route...he was blowing up every thread in the main forums and attacking anyone who didn't agree with him. Nobody cared that his solution to everything was "fire the whole team"...that part was almost funny. It was calling people names and demanding other people should be banned for their opinions and all the other crap he pulled that were 100% against the site's rules.

    By the way, I still think Ricky is Dirty- he completely melted down after I mentioned that I was looking at their time logs. If Ricky was a different person, why would he go so completely ballistic over that? Common sense says they were the same guy.
     
  15. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    The site was created for certain purposes.

    None of those purposes entails getting lots of traffic or posting hot take after hot take. There are sites for that and this isn't one of them.

    What you want or trying to champion is not what this site is about.

    It really is that simple.
     
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  16. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Right. So you had no problem with him trolling people and otherwise violating the ToS, and now want to complain that he's banned?

    Just lock this thread already.
     
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  17. bigballa2102

    bigballa2102 Well-Known Member

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    I just ignored it half the time, I have also seen others saying things about other people as well so it wasn't just him, but was it a lot and a lil much? yes, I get it. But its easily ignored that's what I don't get if you don't want to get involved then don't its quite simple really.
     
  18. bigballa2102

    bigballa2102 Well-Known Member

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    kind of funny coming from you, that's pretty much a basis for everything you post is what you feel!!! which is fine like I have told you a million times your opinion is your opinion that's the purpose of a fan blog is to say what you feel, your opinions, your outlook etc. Everyone's not going to agree that's the point is to see where someone else is coming from.
     
  19. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    You're not understanding the difference between opinions and hot takes.
     
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  20. bigballa2102

    bigballa2102 Well-Known Member

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    for the 20th time stop telling me what I understand and don't understand. I understand fully I was making a point that it was funny you posted that that's all you do is say blah blah and then if someone doesn't agree then we don't understand is all im saying, and its fine.
     
  21. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    It's hard to ignore all the threads that he started. It's hard to ignore the posts that litter threads. The other problem is that those posts would derail threads.
     
  22. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    If you understood it, then you wouldn't keep accusing me of it.
     
  23. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    This threads run its course.
     
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